The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

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  • infemous
    MVP
    • Nov 2009
    • 1568

    #31
    Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

    Originally posted by Thrustie
    Yeah I made my 7’3 dude and even with a lower block rating and only bronze rim protector, I managed 7 blocks in 18 minutes (I’m still a bench player). I never managed that with my 6’10 Center in a full game despite having 20 higher rated block and Gold Rim Protector. Even having 30 less speed, acceleration and vert I have no problem switching and closing out on shooters inside the arc. I went end to end on a break after stealing it from Patty Mills in the same game.
    Please fix this 2k.

    I got receipts for how broken this is btw.

    Marc Gasol recovers after getting crossed at the 3pt line to make a chase down... ON PRO DIFFICULTY BRUH.

    When I can upload this video they gotta make the change lol
    Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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    • ImInThis
      Rookie
      • Oct 2014
      • 380

      #32
      Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

      I play nothing but big man, this has been discussed the past 5 years. I wonder when will 2k punish these 7'3 Bums. I manage to outrebound and outscore them, but still

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      • infam0us
        MVP
        • Jan 2009
        • 1607

        #33
        Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

        This was one of those situation that I hated in 2k. Do I create my build for self-joy and realism or do I go for the park Pro-Am meta. Like I try to be realistic and create a 6'9 PF but get killed by the double 7'3 strat

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        • ruxpinke
          Pro
          • Apr 2008
          • 908

          #34
          Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

          Originally posted by infam0us
          This was one of those situation that I hated in 2k. Do I create my build for self-joy and realism or do I go for the park Pro-Am meta. Like I try to be realistic and create a 6'9 PF but get killed by the double 7'3 strat
          even worse - the first few days were playing so well it gave you hope you could do things the right way, so i built what i wanted. 2 days later the tuning starts and my build i invested in is cooked
          PSN: PrettyToney

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          • Greene_Flash03
            MVP
            • Oct 2005
            • 2118

            #35
            Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

            Originally posted by infam0us
            This was one of those situation that I hated in 2k. Do I create my build for self-joy and realism or do I go for the park Pro-Am meta. Like I try to be realistic and create a 6'9 PF but get killed by the double 7'3 strat
            THIS.

            I created a 6'10 in 18 and 6'11 in 19 to mimic AD, believing that speed and weight are going to be factors, but I ended up getting owned online by 7'3, 285 lbs centers with guard/forward speed.

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            • triplechin
              Pro
              • Jul 2010
              • 594

              #36
              Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

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              • MrWrestling3
                MVP
                • May 2015
                • 1146

                #37
                Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                Originally posted by triplechin
                They do make a good point...before they go playing with the speed settings for the entire game they should first remove that weird rear hip/shoulder ride animation that lets even the slowest guys match speeds with the fastest guys in the league by magnetizing them together.

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                • Thrustie
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 764

                  #38
                  Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                  Originally posted by triplechin
                  This was pretty much my exact experience running next to Boban. He paced me the entire court. Chris Manning did reply lower that they’re looking at speed differentiation so here’s hoping. I would happily retire my 7’3 and go back to my 6’10 Center.

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                  • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 359

                    #39
                    Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                    Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                    They do make a good point...before they go playing with the speed settings for the entire game they should first remove that weird rear hip/shoulder ride animation that lets even the slowest guys match speeds with the fastest guys in the league by magnetizing them together.
                    Is that still in? I haven't seen that in Rec even though I've tried to trigger that alot lol

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                    • MrWrestling3
                      MVP
                      • May 2015
                      • 1146

                      #40
                      Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                      Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                      Is that still in? I haven't seen that in Rec even though I've tried to trigger that alot lol
                      It's still around; I've seen the CPU do it a couple times.

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                      • infemous
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1568

                        #41
                        Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                        Just had it happen to me in a game of rec - small guard rode my hip and slow me down and a centre got back and chased me down lol

                        tbh I feel the game plays really nice, this is the most pressing gameplay issue i see, as well as the crazy vert centers have on blocks
                        Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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                        • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 359

                          #42
                          Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                          Originally posted by thexzeno
                          There seems to be a consensus that the speed of max weight 7'3 centers is entirely too fast.

                          But has anyone ever confirmed this? I know people like kushmir and Nba2k labs do extensive testing of the game mechanics and I wonder if they would be willing to prove this notion(i will happily discuss payment options)

                          IMO they are slow moving laterally for the most part, but on fast-breaks I've seen them keep pace with guards and shorter centers no problem, maybe not neck to neck but enough to where the can catch the rebound/chasedown and be back on the other side of the court no problem. I don't play park often but the same issue remains. Height in 2k offers many benefits with the supposed downside being speed. but there seems to be something in the code that enables a min/max speed when holding R2(perhaps the acceleration stat is broken?)

                          As it stands i believe 7'3 center needs a massive stamina nerf so they will have to be conscious of their sprinting, Every myplayer can obtain 90+ stamina and that's a problem if its coded the same for every archetype/height. As of now you can literally sprint the entire game as a center with a gatorade boost and rarely tire out. Shaq in his prime played 39 minutes, That's still almost a quarter of sitting out/being less effective.

                          The stamina buff recently exacerbated this issue. and as a result we have 7'3 centers dominating every other center build which leads to a stale meta of 2 rebounders, picks, and 3 point shots/putbacks. I'm not decrying the height advantage, taller centers should get more rebounds but there has to be some type of drawback or incentive for people to actually create shorter characters. The league has many legends who excelled despite being smaller in stature because they outsmarted/outskilled opponents. 2k in its current state doesn't really permit that.

                          discuss

                          Hope ya'll happy. Now my 7'3 center moves around like a 500 lb walrus. And they didn't just nerf the running speed, they nerfed the MOVEMENT of the center. So his post moves are in slow motion. More overreaction by 2K due to overreaction by the community. People spend real $$ for builds that later get nerfed due to cryers. How is that ok.

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                          • tru11
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1816

                            #43
                            Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                            dont make a 7`3 player then?

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                            • thexzeno
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 27

                              #44
                              Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                              Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                              Hope ya'll happy. Now my 7'3 center moves around like a 500 lb walrus. And they didn't just nerf the running speed, they nerfed the MOVEMENT of the center. So his post moves are in slow motion. More overreaction by 2K due to overreaction by the community. People spend real $$ for builds that later get nerfed due to cryers. How is that ok.
                              Yes I'm happy as heck because I am a 7'3 interior force and this is literally how we should move. Defense is better im not sliding all over the f'ing place trying to stay in front of a Glasscleaner now. Paint play is WAY BETTER, you can bump your guy in the paint now because the movement was so slippery pre-patch.

                              Picks are easier to set, fastbreaks are realistic, I'm no longer doing chasedown blocks on point guards with 45 speed.

                              Post move speed didnt change at all(you probably have a low post move rating, GCLD?)

                              This is one of the best updates 2k has ever done because 7'3 giant speed was out of control. I now have a weakness and must learn how to play my character CORRECTLY to mitigate it. 6'11 dudes will blow by me now if I don't cut off the angles. I can still outboard him but I need better positioning.

                              Don't get mad because you cheesed your way to success and now that things are realistic and you actually have to THINK to beat your opponent. Skilled centers will still be skilled even with this change. It's the lames who wont be able to adjust and will get outed accordingly.

                              It was cool being a triple double demi-god for a few weeks but I'm elated they did this change. Probably the best 2k to date now.

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                              • Thetruth9012
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1287

                                #45
                                Re: The 7'3 speed dilemma(stamina is broken)

                                Is it fixed?

                                Wysłane z mojego Redmi 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka
                                2k18 fixes

                                Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                                Late contest on laups matter too much.

                                Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                                Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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