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  • ELPAGA
    Rookie
    • Oct 2016
    • 204

    #16
    Re: Need help on a new Center build.

    Just make another unrealistic center built like this


    And you'll be fine. Who needs jumpshots when you're getting 30 rebounds a game and no fouls

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    • Kleinevos
      Pro
      • Nov 2017
      • 599

      #17
      Re: Need help on a new Center build.



      Post scoring is more fun than being just another glass cleaner/paint beast


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      • splashmountain
        Pro
        • Aug 2016
        • 809

        #18
        Re: Need help on a new Center build.

        Originally posted by ImInThis
        1) I want a jump shot so I don't clog the paint

        2) If I'm matched with a Rim Protector I can keep him out the paint with shooting mid-range and 3s. My team can then attack the paint and not worry about him

        I don't want a Glass, they're not my play style at all
        i'm sorry to break the bad news to you but 2k has nerfed any big that isnt a rebounder/defender.
        if its anything else. you suck vs that above mix of archs.

        its because the rim protector & intimidator badges once they get to gold or HOF are super OP. there is no big man scoring badge that can go up against it. in theory you need to be a shooting big to at least counter that silly op paint defense. problem is. bigs can't get a high enough boost in 3's to make it matter enough. and i know 2k did that because you had bigs splashing 3's like guards which is not true unless we're talking about prime dirk.

        So with all this said. your best bet is to make a Center where you have Mostly Green(shooting) and mostly red (defense and rebounding). i know..i know you dont want to do that. but making him a part post scoring is not going to make sense because you will most likely go up against the build i stated. when i say every body and they mama are using that rebounder/defender build. I mean...EVERY body is using that build. you rarely see any other type of big. and when you do. you dont need to be badged out like crazy to compete and score on them. its that one build that destroys any realism in the game for big men. if you dont know what you're doing with that build. you're guaranteed 16 to 18 rebs per game. if you do know what you're doing we're talking about 25 to 30 per. thats how op it is.

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        • splashmountain
          Pro
          • Aug 2016
          • 809

          #19
          Re: Need help on a new Center build.

          Originally posted by Kleinevos


          Post scoring is more fun than being just another glass cleaner/paint beast


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          showing that pic out of context. i wish that were the case on average. its not.

          to pull that off. the defender guy at center that obviously quit or fouled out would first have to be low rated(80 or less). and low badges(low rim protector and low intimidator badges as well as low rebounding badges).

          its not about skill in that paint this year. its about whats the guys rating and how many badges does he have vs how many do you have. and you best have your own hof going up against a defender rebounder. and even then i'm still not sure 2k will allow you to make baskets when you should. thats how broken the game is for big men.

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          • Kleinevos
            Pro
            • Nov 2017
            • 599

            #20
            Re: Need help on a new Center build.

            Originally posted by splashmountain

            showing that pic out of context. i wish that were the case on average. its not.



            to pull that off. the defender guy at center that obviously quit or fouled out would first have to be low rated(80 or less). and low badges(low rim protector and low intimidator badges as well as low rebounding badges).



            its not about skill in that paint this year. its about whats the guys rating and how many badges does he have vs how many do you have. and you best have your own hof going up against a defender rebounder. and even then i'm still not sure 2k will allow you to make baskets when you should. thats how broken the game is for big men.


            He was a 93 allstar1 with decent averages. He quit late 3rd quarter.

            Mind you, we were a 2 man squad, me and the pg. No premade.

            And while triples are rare, i average a doubledoible with ease. Ive not met a gcld that outclassed me yet.


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            • tru11
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1816

              #21
              Re: Need help on a new Center build.

              Originally posted by ImInThis
              From what I'm hearing there's a lot of Rim Protectors and Glass Cleaners. I NEED a big man with a jump shop, my current build has a 58, thus it's rendered useless and pointless to keep working on it. I love post scoring so that's why I chose those 2 particular pie charts

              Here's 1st new Build at 7'1 max weight, max wingspan. NO inside badges whatsoever. Strength maxes at 84 is suspect But I can take Rim Protectors out the game completely just standing at the 3 point line.








              Here's they 2nd build. 7'0 max weight, normal wingspan. Strength is 95 That alone could prove more worthy, but idk. Not sure how dependable that 3 ball gone be, mid-range should be ok. I wanted to go up on height, but that messes with shooting.



              neither are worth it quite frankly.

              you can space the floor by making an interior force.

              Get deep hooks and deep fade.
              hot zone hunter and pro touch.

              camp around the free throw line and just shoot hook shots like Kareem lol

              Heck i try posting up a guard and shoot it since they can barely affect your shot.

              rebounders/defenders just camp beneath the basket and unless they decide to step up its greens all day.

              on defense get rebound chaser and intimidator.
              maybe box out and moving truck, along with rim protector and your fine .

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              • Kleinevos
                Pro
                • Nov 2017
                • 599

                #22
                Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                Originally posted by tru11
                neither are worth it quite frankly.



                you can space the floor by making an interior force.



                Get deep hooks and deep fade.

                hot zone hunter and pro touch.



                camp around the free throw line and just shoot hook shots like Kareem lol



                Heck i try posting up a guard and shoot it since they can barely affect your shot.



                rebounders/defenders just camp beneath the basket and unless they decide to step up its greens all day.



                on defense get rebound chaser and intimidator.

                maybe box out and moving truck, along with rim protector and your fine .


                When i post up off-ball and the opposing center leans in, he’s a bit sticky, like velcro.

                That means when someone drives into the paint, he’s usually too late to contest.
                That’s how i pretty effectively space the floor while still be in premium position to score myself.
                Takes a lot of court awareness though to pull it off consistently.

                People Think spacing the floor means camping behind the 3 point line, but that’s bs.

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                • tru11
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1816

                  #23
                  Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                  Originally posted by Kleinevos
                  When i post up off-ball and the opposing center leans in, he’s a bit sticky, like velcro.

                  That means when someone drives into the paint, he’s usually too late to contest.
                  That’s how i pretty effectively space the floor while still be in premium position to score myself.
                  Takes a lot of court awareness though to pull it off consistently.

                  People Think spacing the floor means camping behind the 3 point line, but that’s bs.
                  true.

                  if your man decides to defend you it open up the paint for someone to cut to as well.

                  also once you post up with the ball everyone swarms you trying to get a steal.
                  thats where unpluckable kicks in and you just need to find the open man and hope he his his shot lol.

                  unpluckable gold.
                  bronze/silver needle threader
                  dream shake and break starter are great for the playmaking part.
                  heck might slap on lob city passer on bronze for the cutter l.
                  wish i had dimer as an option.

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                  • Kleinevos
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 599

                    #24
                    Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                    Unpluckable is a must have. That badge pops up everytime i touch the ball lol.

                    As for needle threader, its a waste.
                    I feel you can complete passes regardless.

                    Same for breakstarter. R1+L1 after a rebound connects 9 out of 10.

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                    • tru11
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1816

                      #25
                      Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                      Originally posted by Kleinevos
                      Unpluckable is a must have. That badge pops up everytime i touch the ball lol.

                      As for needle threader, its a waste.
                      I feel you can complete passes regardless.

                      Same for breakstarter. R1+L1 after a rebound connects 9 out of 10.
                      yeah wasent so sure about breakstarter and needle threader.

                      have little issue now getting assist but was chucking it up to most people not having that many badges yet.

                      they would have been the last badges id get.

                      did you try dream shake yet?

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                      • Kleinevos
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 599

                        #26
                        Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                        Originally posted by tru11
                        yeah wasent so sure about breakstarter and needle threader.



                        have little issue now getting assist but was chucking it up to most people not having that many badges yet.



                        they would have been the last badges id get.



                        did you try dream shake yet?


                        I have it on gold. I see it pop up a lot after doing a drop step too.
                        Drop step has a built-in pump fake, if i recall correctly. I’m pretty sure dream shake makes people recover more slowly from a dropstep

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                        • tru11
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1816

                          #27
                          Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                          Originally posted by Kleinevos
                          I have it on gold. I see it pop up a lot after doing a drop step too.
                          Drop step has a built-in pump fake, if i recall correctly. I’m pretty sure dream shake makes people recover more slowly from a dropstep
                          yeah its what i got from the badge as well.

                          a delay after a post move which makes it harder to contest!!!!

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                          • ImInThis
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 380

                            #28
                            Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                            Originally posted by splashmountain
                            i'm sorry to break the bad news to you but 2k has nerfed any big that isnt a rebounder/defender.
                            if its anything else. you suck vs that above mix of archs.

                            its because the rim protector & intimidator badges once they get to gold or HOF are super OP. there is no big man scoring badge that can go up against it. in theory you need to be a shooting big to at least counter that silly op paint defense. problem is. bigs can't get a high enough boost in 3's to make it matter enough. and i know 2k did that because you had bigs splashing 3's like guards which is not true unless we're talking about prime dirk.

                            So with all this said. your best bet is to make a Center where you have Mostly Green(shooting) and mostly red (defense and rebounding). i know..i know you dont want to do that. but making him a part post scoring is not going to make sense because you will most likely go up against the build i stated. when i say every body and they mama are using that rebounder/defender build. I mean...EVERY body is using that build. you rarely see any other type of big. and when you do. you dont need to be badged out like crazy to compete and score on them. its that one build that destroys any realism in the game for big men. if you dont know what you're doing with that build. you're guaranteed 16 to 18 rebs per game. if you do know what you're doing we're talking about 25 to 30 per. thats how op it is.
                            Last year I had a Slashing Post Scorer. 7'1. Rebounding was in the 70s with silver rebounding badges. Strength was on 91 so which was a big disadvantaged against max weight Glass Cleaners. But I still outrebounded those builds

                            I'm confident I can make the 1st build work as it has 79 defensive rebounding and I can get 3 gold badges and I can get boost. I already got it to 81ovr. My main concern now is being overpowered downlow, which has happened when a big drop steps and gets an automatic dunk. My strength is still low, like the 70s. It maxes at 88, so I'm gonna have to grind to 95 and do the gym training which will possibly place my strength over 90.

                            As for OP Rim Protector badges, well I'm not worried about that. I've scored on Rim Protectors in 2k19, Post Fade is ridiculous if you know what you're doing.

                            I just wish my guy was faster and had inside finishing.
                            Last edited by ImInThis; 09-25-2019, 10:04 AM.

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              #29
                              Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                              FWIW, not a C, but I really love my 3nD PF. 6'9" 240 lbs and a 7'3" wingspan. 3 point rating tops out at 74, but I'm shooting around 42% from 3 in Rec games with him and am blocking shots like crazy.

                              I can get abused if I end up being put at C in Rec against a 7'3" max weight type, but for the most part, I've held up pretty well on the glass and I'm very happy with everything else.
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                              • NARFALICIOUS
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 376

                                #30
                                Re: Need help on a new Center build.

                                Originally posted by ImInThis
                                From what I'm hearing there's a lot of Rim Protectors and Glass Cleaners. I NEED a big man with a jump shop, my current build has a 58, thus it's rendered useless and pointless to keep working on it. I love post scoring so that's why I chose those 2 particular pie charts

                                Here's 1st new Build at 7'1 max weight, max wingspan. NO inside badges whatsoever. Strength maxes at 84 is suspect But I can take Rim Protectors out the game completely just standing at the 3 point line.





                                Here's they 2nd build. 7'0 max weight, normal wingspan. Strength is 95 That alone could prove more worthy, but idk. Not sure how dependable that 3 ball gone be, mid-range should be ok. I wanted to go up on height, but that messes with shooting.



                                Which pie chart are these? And do you play Park, Rec, or Proam?

                                Is there any way on the first build to get more finishing badges without sacrificing too much elsewhere?
                                Hooks, dropsteps, and backdown punisher are important for a post scorer, in my opinion.

                                Originally posted by ImInThis
                                The first build gets 9 badges in Defense/Rebounding.

                                Intimidator Gold, Box Gold, and Rebound Chaser gold.That's why I'm failing to see why it would be a bad build. Because you can get gold badges. What I could do is work on purely defense. Max the Rebounding and Interior Defense and get all 9 badges. If it works then I can work on everything else.

                                Now there is a 3 & D pie chart. But I wanted to be more like a post scorer.

                                I'll have to play with the charts and builds later when I get home, but doesn't the green/red pie chart also have good post fade?

                                I don't think you need max shooting to hit long 2s or even some 3s. You need the right jumper, good timing, badges, and run the offense well enough with good team mates.
                                Last edited by NARFALICIOUS; 09-25-2019, 11:50 AM.
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