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  • sooperb
    Rookie
    • Sep 2007
    • 446

    #1

    Button press latency issues OFFLINE

    The responsiveness of 2k games have been slow forever but today I noticed that even the Pause menu has latency. The gameplay is almost like I'm online with an excellent connection. I thought it was the tv response time but when I am in the dashboard everything moves 1:1.

    Am I missing something?
    Playing NBA 2K feels like a job that pays minimum wage and then cuts your pay when you get your Bill's right to make it even harder to succeed. I do not like this game but it's the only one in town.

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  • YungGun
    Pro
    • Aug 2011
    • 536

    #2
    Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

    You're not alone. I've been having crazy input lag when doing icon passes and have had instances where I press a button and it doesn't register. This isn't new tho, it's been happening for a few years now.

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47562

      #3
      Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

      Originally posted by YungGun
      You're not alone. I've been having crazy input lag when doing icon passes and have had instances where I press a button and it doesn't register. This isn't new tho, it's been happening for a few years now.
      But this year is probably the most noticeable
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      • MrWrestling3
        MVP
        • May 2015
        • 1146

        #4
        Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

        Even in completely offline modes, I sometimes notice some "mystery lag" when playing during peak hours.It is almost like 2K is still doing something online in the background and it causes frame loss.

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        • RedmanR
          MVP
          • Aug 2003
          • 2120

          #5
          Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

          Originally posted by YungGun
          You're not alone. I've been having crazy input lag when doing icon passes and have had instances where I press a button and it doesn't register. This isn't new tho, it's been happening for a few years now.
          Originally posted by jeebs9
          But this year is probably the most noticeable
          WOW. . . I thought I was trippin', the first time I've ever noticed this. . .

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          Where they DO that? ? ?

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          • Smirkin Dirk
            All Star
            • Oct 2008
            • 5172

            #6
            Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

            It's definitely noticeable on the play calling. The extra button press required makes it worse.
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            • keshunleon
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 2111

              #7
              Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

              Agree, it's been a issue in the past but for me it seems to happen when the CPU is running or when I'm playing defense.
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              • RedmanR
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 2120

                #8
                Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                Originally posted by keshunleon
                Agree, it's been a issue in the past but for me it seems to happen when the CPU is running or when I'm playing defense.
                That's exactly when I noticed it, attempting to switch on ball defense. . .

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                Where they DO that? ? ?

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47562

                  #9
                  Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                  Originally posted by RedmanR
                  WOW. . . I thought I was trippin', the first time I've ever noticed this. . .

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                  I thought I was going crazy. Bought a new controller and all....

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                  • rockchisler
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8290

                    #10
                    Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                    Originally posted by YungGun
                    You're not alone. I've been having crazy input lag when doing icon passes and have had instances where I press a button and it doesn't register. This isn't new tho, it's been happening for a few years now.


                    Man I thought it was my PlayStation 4 controller I was about to trade that in until I read this. In particular passing try to pass and nothing happens.


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                    • ataman5
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2620

                      #11
                      Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                      Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                      Even in completely offline modes, I sometimes notice some "mystery lag" when playing during peak hours.It is almost like 2K is still doing something online in the background and it causes frame loss.
                      I've been telling this for a while on these streets of OS; that even on offline game modes the game still acts online because of all data that 2k keeps collecting on what we do and how we do stuff starting with the current gen consoles.

                      During peak hours of internet etc. as i've experienced them since as far as i can remember 2k17 stuff like 'lag compensation' which means the game plays faster to keep up with cpu and stuff on 'offline modes', you may call me crazy but that's what it is, lightning fast movements, rubberbanding, frame losses, crippled/buggy/messy movements all on offline modes and none related with tv/monitor etc. All my experiences are based on digital copies.

                      I played the game on different connections and in different houses with different ISPs on those houses and the experience of the game gets changed for me based on the connection on which house i play the game on offline modes.

                      I'm certain that i'm not crazy neither are you.

                      PS: It's an epiphany that whenever you notice them you just can't go back off of the realization. Worst feeling of all.

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                      • MrWrestling3
                        MVP
                        • May 2015
                        • 1146

                        #12
                        Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                        Originally posted by ataman5
                        I've been telling this for a while on these streets of OS; that even on offline game modes the game still acts online because of all data that 2k keeps collecting on what we do and how we do stuff starting with the current gen consoles.

                        During peak hours of internet etc. as i've experienced them since as far as i can remember 2k17 stuff like 'lag compensation' which means the game plays faster to keep up with cpu and stuff on 'offline modes', you may call me crazy but that's what it is, lightning fast movements, rubberbanding, frame losses, crippled/buggy/messy movements all on offline modes and none related with tv/monitor etc. All my experiences are based on digital copies.

                        I played the game on different connections and in different houses with different ISPs on those houses and the experience of the game gets changed for me based on the connection on which house i play the game on offline modes.

                        I'm certain that i'm not crazy neither are you.

                        PS: It's an epiphany that whenever you notice them you just can't go back off of the realization. Worst feeling of all.
                        I'm actually glad I'm not the only one that noticed it.

                        I started noticing it myself in 17 or 18;sometimes when I would play offline players would feel laggy and stuck in the mud, and other times the exact same players would feel super responsive like they were moving fast (and even sometimes too fast).

                        This was/is with me playing on the exact same monitor and online connection, without changing any sliders, and without any patches or updates being applied that might have changed the gameplay.

                        I remember a while ago a guy on YT showed where Take 2/2K had a patent for an algorithm of some sort that monitors pretty much everything the user does in game...from mode and team selection to how often they buy micros all the way down to button presses.Supposedly this how some people sometimes get those "Personalized screens" for "Special Deals on VC from 2K" which other people don't get.

                        Assuming that is true,it is a problem. While I understand what they are doing(data mining) ,I don't want my offline experience being messed up so some higher priority background process can formulate when is the time to hit me with another "Act now and get 50% off VC!" splash screen.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47562

                          #13
                          Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                          Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                          I'm actually glad I'm not the only one that noticed it.

                          I started noticing it myself in 17 or 18;sometimes when I would play offline players would feel laggy and stuck in the mud, and other times the exact same players would feel super responsive like they were moving fast (and even sometimes too fast).

                          This was/is with me playing on the exact same monitor and online connection, without changing any sliders, and without any patches or updates being applied that might have changed the gameplay.

                          I remember a while ago a guy on YT showed where Take 2/2K had a patent for an algorithm of some sort that monitors pretty much everything the user does in game...from mode and team selection to how often they buy micros all the way down to button presses.Supposedly this how some people sometimes get those "Personalized screens" for "Special Deals on VC from 2K" which other people don't get.

                          Assuming that is true,it is a problem. While I understand what they are doing(data mining) ,I don't want my offline experience being messed up so some higher priority background process can formulate when is the time to hit me with another "Act now and get 50% off VC!" splash screen.
                          I totally agree with what your saying. It just makes me throw up that my video games are now being tailed by a large amount of data crossing the internet. But worst, that it's now effecting my actually gaming. Like what's the point.

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                          Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                          • ataman5
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2620

                            #14
                            Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                            Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                            I'm actually glad I'm not the only one that noticed it.

                            I started noticing it myself in 17 or 18;sometimes when I would play offline players would feel laggy and stuck in the mud, and other times the exact same players would feel super responsive like they were moving fast (and even sometimes too fast).

                            This was/is with me playing on the exact same monitor and online connection, without changing any sliders, and without any patches or updates being applied that might have changed the gameplay.

                            I remember a while ago a guy on YT showed where Take 2/2K had a patent for an algorithm of some sort that monitors pretty much everything the user does in game...from mode and team selection to how often they buy micros all the way down to button presses.Supposedly this how some people sometimes get those "Personalized screens" for "Special Deals on VC from 2K" which other people don't get.

                            Assuming that is true,it is a problem. While I understand what they are doing(data mining) ,I don't want my offline experience being messed up so some higher priority background process can formulate when is the time to hit me with another "Act now and get 50% off VC!" splash screen.
                            Exactly, on the same setup in the same day, i can play 2 or 3 different games in different hours starting from morning to midnight the gameplay changes in terms of movements and inputs. Exactly! Finally i'm so glad i'm not the only one who notice them. Ty my friend.

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                            • mfdoom911e
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 564

                              #15
                              Re: Button press latency issues OFFLINE

                              oh so there is actually a delay as i change all my tv activity display.
                              this should be in the coming patch. as they release a game that is not really ready yet.

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