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  • WinnersWin123
    Rookie
    • Sep 2019
    • 30

    #1

    Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

    Doesn’t the saying go “ball moves faster than the defense”? Apparently 2k did not get the memo. Almost every pass is floated and the defense runs at the same speed the ball moves. Guys can sit in a zone and have one defender at the elbow cover the corner and the elbow three and get interceptions. Also when passing into the paint, your big man will literally crouch on their way to the basket to allow smaller players to intercept the pass. It’s like they’re encouraging you not to pass the ball more than once in a possession. Rarely do you see simple deflections. Every player can straight up intercept a pass. For a MyTeam player or someone that uses classic teams, what is the point of using Kawhi Leonard or Michael Jordan if every player is going to have the same ability to play passing lanes?
  • AstrosAllDay85
    Banned
    • Apr 2019
    • 556

    #2
    Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

    Pass speed slider


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    • jyoung
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11132

      #3
      Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

      The needle threader badge will also increase players' pass speed.

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      • splashmountain
        Pro
        • Aug 2016
        • 809

        #4
        Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

        Originally posted by jyoung
        The needle threader badge will also increase players' pass speed.
        and eventually the higher you get it, it will give you the ability to pass THRU people. thats right. THRU people's bodies.
        which goes back to the issue with 2k. something is always OP. makes no sense.

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        • MakePostGreatAgain
          Rookie
          • Apr 2019
          • 110

          #5
          Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

          there isnt enough zip on passes because if there was then people would get exposed when they leave the weak side corner wide open.

          2k 5v5 online is just way aggresive help D, if not full blown triple team onball..

          It kinda helps to use the skip pass input (hold pass button down, X for ps4).

          If passes were quicker people would have to play team basketball on both ends of the court

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          • WinnersWin123
            Rookie
            • Sep 2019
            • 30

            #6
            Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

            Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
            Pass speed slider


            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
            So you’re saying MyTeam mode was intentionally made to be a turnover fest? Didn’t know about that slider

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            • Painless taken
              Banned
              • Sep 2018
              • 290

              #7
              Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

              This is a legacy issue along with the multitude of other issues that plague this franchise

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              • jyoung
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11132

                #8
                Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                Originally posted by MakePostGreatAgain
                It kinda helps to use the skip pass input (hold pass button down, X for ps4)
                The problem with that skip pass mechanic ever since it was introduced a couple 2Ks ago is that those passes don't come out of your hand right away there's around a full second of input delay from the moment you hold down the pass button to the moment the ball leaves your hand, and that added delay usually gives the defense enough time to recover and get a closeout/steal/deflection while you're "charging up" one of those skip passes to an open teammate.

                Throwing a skip pass with that mechanic as it's currently designed feels like throwing a Sonic Boom with Guile in Street Fighter.
                Last edited by jyoung; 11-20-2019, 07:50 PM.

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #9
                  Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                  I'm sure most know here. But you can touch pass by passing the press x button before the ball arrives to the receiver.

                  I do agree with some post here. That faster passing would stop all the cheesy **** we are seeing. Especially zone play.

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                  • howardphillips214
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 1928

                    #10
                    Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                    But 2k would change it and people would complain its too fast. Honestly, the game as currently constructed is where it'll be till next holiday season when the new consoles arrive.

                    I haven't even been able to play much this year as opposed to as much as the last few years. But i honestly haven't had as much fun as i had last year even. And last year was one of my least favorite years.

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                    • infemous
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1568

                      #11
                      Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                      Originally posted by Painless taken
                      This is a legacy issue along with the multitude of other issues that plague this franchise
                      This is a legacy issue I’d love to see addressed.

                      I’d also love to have pocket passes work again.

                      Operating in the pick and roll is a complete gamble in 2k20 and renders elite passers useless as there is no finesse.

                      I saw in another thread someone mention the fact that no matter what button you press it selects your pass type for you and this is a key component in this issue.

                      Also in years past you could wrap a pass along the baseline and now it gets tipped like 70% of the time and it’s always so slow that the shot is contested 90% of the time it gets there.

                      Also seeing someone mention touch pasting makes me sad as it also doesn’t always trigger. I don’t know if it’s input lag when playing online but they stil have to bring the ball into their chest to then throw it, slowing the ball movement.

                      Also the introduction of the icon passing pass select had me super excited but that was also broken - it just didn’t work most of the time and had a maaaaasive delay, even offline

                      Feeding the post and using lob passes is a sure fire way to have the pass picked off by anyone, which means that if it can’t get there with a chest pass, there’s no point making the pass.

                      And all the points about passes because of needle threader going through players highlights one of the biggest lowlights of 2k20, especially considering the pre release marketing of enhanced footplanting and physics - the damn clipping.

                      So many animations have weird glitches where the players travel morphing the ball between dribble animations and pass/shot animations - and missed blocks or missed fouls because hands go through the ball or body.

                      I’m surprised this hasn’t been a bigger bug bear to the OS community because I saw it in the pre release ghetto footage and it’s painfully apparent throughout the game - and was less so when we had more canned (but control over) our animations in 2k18.

                      I really hope they can eradicate some of the more egregious clipping issues on next gen because I feel 2k20 gives us less control over our players to avoid it - and still fails to do so.

                      Watching Lebron and Doncic pass so beautifully this season really makes 2k20s inability to simulate elite passing even more apparent, and I hope this is a point of emphasis moving forward.
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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #12
                        Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                        Another problem 2K20 introduced is that certain on-ball body up bump animations will freeze your player's controller and stop you from being able to do anything with the ball (including passing).

                        So what often happens this year is you'll have a teammate open, press the pass button to get him the ball, but then the pass won't come out of your hands until 2 seconds later because your player got body bumped and couldn't do anything until the bump animation played out in its entirety.

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                        • Quentin32
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 546

                          #13
                          Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                          Originally posted by infemous
                          This is a legacy issue I’d love to see addressed.

                          I’d also love to have pocket passes work again.

                          Operating in the pick and roll is a complete gamble in 2k20 and renders elite passers useless as there is no finesse.

                          I saw in another thread someone mention the fact that no matter what button you press it selects your pass type for you and this is a key component in this issue.

                          Also in years past you could wrap a pass along the baseline and now it gets tipped like 70% of the time and it’s always so slow that the shot is contested 90% of the time it gets there.

                          Also seeing someone mention touch pasting makes me sad as it also doesn’t always trigger. I don’t know if it’s input lag when playing online but they stil have to bring the ball into their chest to then throw it, slowing the ball movement.

                          Also the introduction of the icon passing pass select had me super excited but that was also broken - it just didn’t work most of the time and had a maaaaasive delay, even offline

                          Feeding the post and using lob passes is a sure fire way to have the pass picked off by anyone, which means that if it can’t get there with a chest pass, there’s no point making the pass.

                          And all the points about passes because of needle threader going through players highlights one of the biggest lowlights of 2k20, especially considering the pre release marketing of enhanced footplanting and physics - the damn clipping.

                          So many animations have weird glitches where the players travel morphing the ball between dribble animations and pass/shot animations - and missed blocks or missed fouls because hands go through the ball or body.

                          I’m surprised this hasn’t been a bigger bug bear to the OS community because I saw it in the pre release ghetto footage and it’s painfully apparent throughout the game - and was less so when we had more canned (but control over) our animations in 2k18.

                          I really hope they can eradicate some of the more egregious clipping issues on next gen because I feel 2k20 gives us less control over our players to avoid it - and still fails to do so.

                          Watching Lebron and Doncic pass so beautifully this season really makes 2k20s inability to simulate elite passing even more apparent, and I hope this is a point of emphasis moving forward.
                          Bron passing is elite af in 2k

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                          • infemous
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1568

                            #14
                            Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                            Originally posted by Quentin32
                            Bron passing is elite af in 2k
                            Only coz his passes go through players hands and legs lol

                            And try feed AD in the post with a lob pass (triangle one tap) and tell me it’s still elite lol

                            And Lebron bout the only default player who is elite at passing. Try get an array of passes going with John Wall and you’ll understand my point.
                            Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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                            • tru11
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1816

                              #15
                              Re: Why is there no zip on passes in this game?

                              them outlet passes have plenty of zip lol

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