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  • ksuttonjr76
    All Star
    • Nov 2004
    • 8662

    #31
    Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

    Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
    One thing I can't stand about NBA 2K is this. 3pt %'s are completely unrealistic and it's a complete game changer. HOF quick draw needs to be taken out back.
    I agree. I know that some people will disagree, but if people want a "fast" release then they should select a "fast" release. As is, people are going to find/create the fastest release regardless, then attach this HOF badge to it. I selected a jumper that I liked, but I only attached the bronze Quick draw to "match" my timing of my button press. For whatever reason, I was always shooting "Slight Early". Since I shoot mostly open shots, I never cared about how fast the release is.

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    • MrWrestling3
      MVP
      • May 2015
      • 1146

      #32
      Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

      Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
      It's like Duke (tryhards) going to play randoms at 24 hr fitness or some local bball court (pickup basketball) and bringing Coach K with them to coach and scout the opponents. Then when the game starts, they're running every set and play like it's the Final Four. Then when they win, they're suuuuper proud of themselves. Like gtfoh.
      Yep, pretty much. The current system would be kind of like favoring teams that went undefeated against people at the Y.M.C.A. over teams with a tough schedule that post a good record.

      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
      Nevermind...Just read this comment. This is a good idea. I like giving the power of option to the solo player. Solo players would get the advantage of being on a squad, BUT they run the risk that they may get frozen out. Otherwise, they could always enter a game knowing that they will be playing only with randoms. If squads end up having too much wait time, it kinda encourages them to always run full squads.
      That was more or less my intention....basically a "small game" option for small squads while letting groups that are short a guy get in faster if they are willing to try their luck with one random.Then on the other hand, it also at least gives solo players the courtesy of knowing what the deal is going to be when they queue up.

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      • howardphillips214
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1928

        #33
        Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

        Played an entire squad of 99s last night with my crew. 2-3 zone, everyone can shoot/dunk/dribble/get steals.

        We're a pretty good team. Everyone i played with is over.500 in Rec.

        Got smashed by 40.

        I just went to bed.

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        • ksuttonjr76
          All Star
          • Nov 2004
          • 8662

          #34
          Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

          Originally posted by howardphillips214
          Played an entire squad of 99s last night with my crew. 2-3 zone, everyone can shoot/dunk/dribble/get steals.

          We're a pretty good team. Everyone i played with is over.500 in Rec.

          Got smashed by 40.

          I just went to bed.
          LMAO!

          The one thing that I realized about videogames in general. You could be "good", but there are people out there who will show you what "elite" looks like. Elite gaming snaps you to reality about your skills real quick.

          I thought I was good at NBA 2K5 back in the day. Played in the QUALIFYING rounds for the 2K Tournament, and I got smacked around like I picked up the game for the first time, lol.

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          • Hornetz
            Rookie
            • May 2012
            • 275

            #35
            Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

            So this is it. Cheesing squads. Unfortunately, the individuals playing as a group on their fairly built players aren’t to blame—it’s the corporation who’ve built inputs into the game such as “hall of fame badges.”

            When archetypes were introduced, it was pick one. It was fair. Of course everyone wanted their MyPlayer to dominate over others, and it was actually possible.

            Once archetypes progressed to include a multitude of skillsets, there was a gradual “feeling out” process to “balance” the gameplay in the park, pro-am, and rec.

            Today, archetypes are out of hand. The Slashing Playermaker (who can get gold shooting badges, hof finishing badges, hof dribbling, and gold defense) is the “do it all build,” the glass-cleaning lockdown is the inevitable Shaq.

            It began with the archetypes and it ended with the badges. We all enjoy our guys and know the game is fun—when you aren’t facing the Dream Cheese Team. I’m ready for 2K21, the best idea I’ve heard towards this is a separate door next year for individuals ONLY accompanied with a door where everyone can enter. If you’re active on Twitter or other social media where developers are active, please share this message.
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            • tru11
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1816

              #36
              Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

              Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
              LMAO!

              The one thing that I realized about videogames in general. You could be "good", but there are people out there who will show you what "elite" looks like. Elite gaming snaps you to reality about your skills real quick.

              I thought I was good at NBA 2K5 back in the day. Played in the QUALIFYING rounds for the 2K Tournament, and I got smacked around like I picked up the game for the first time, lol.
              Nailed it.

              There will always be a higher mountain somewhere.

              Once a person accept the fact that people or team might just be better, rather then looking for excuses, then gaming in general will become a lot less stressfull.

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              • kdurantmvp
                Pro
                • Mar 2012
                • 527

                #37
                Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                There is no incentive to play in pro am over rec when most teams can just beat up on randoms and get rep that way. Yes pro am give more rep but that's negated by the fact that you more than likely to face higher competition so you not getting as much rep as possible.


                The problem isn't the fact that you can squad up in the first place. No gym or rec leagues prohibit 5 friends from coming in playing next game. The issue is the players treat rec as if it was the finals of the WR league. If you have to run zone against the majority of 2k community, you are completely bad at this game.


                2k has to add more incentives to pro am and you'll get less teams in rec looking to eat against random teams. That won't take the cheesy of the cheese squads out the rec but that's also why you add in matchmaking to where 5 squads always face 5 squads. Eventually they might just start facing the same other cheesy team and they'll just be like forget it, let's go to pro am and get those incentives ( triple the rep you'll get in rec even with a loss, more badge points).


                Also make the courts bigger, take out the 3 other courts in the background, nerf passing lane steals, and get the rights to the drew league and that's the location for rec games. Have more rec/pro am events. We only get a double xp every once in a blue moon. Meanwhile the park got something different every weekend.


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                • Marvlus91
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 415

                  #38
                  Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                  Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                  There is no incentive to play in pro am over rec when most teams can just beat up on randoms and get rep that way. Yes pro am give more rep but that's negated by the fact that you more than likely to face higher competition so you not getting as much rep as possible.


                  The problem isn't the fact that you can squad up in the first place. No gym or rec leagues prohibit 5 friends from coming in playing next game. The issue is the players treat rec as if it was the finals of the WR league. If you have to run zone against the majority of 2k community, you are completely bad at this game.


                  2k has to add more incentives to pro am and you'll get less teams in rec looking to eat against random teams. That won't take the cheesy of the cheese squads out the rec but that's also why you add in matchmaking to where 5 squads always face 5 squads. Eventually they might just start facing the same other cheesy team and they'll just be like forget it, let's go to pro am and get those incentives ( triple the rep you'll get in rec even with a loss, more badge points).


                  Also make the courts bigger, take out the 3 other courts in the background, nerf passing lane steals, and get the rights to the drew league and that's the location for rec games. Have more rec/pro am events. We only get a double xp every once in a blue moon. Meanwhile the park got something different every weekend.


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                  emphasis on make the courts bigger, tbh! if they made the courts bigger the passing lane steals won’t be as bad but that’s just my thoughts.

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                  • MrWrestling3
                    MVP
                    • May 2015
                    • 1146

                    #39
                    Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                    Originally posted by tru11
                    Nailed it.

                    There will always be a higher mountain somewhere.

                    Once a person accept the fact that people or team might just be better, rather then looking for excuses, then gaming in general will become a lot less stressfull.
                    Exactly, and that is part of the problem.Instead of encouraging players to challenge themselves to get better by pushing themselves against quality competition, they go the other way and make it about stroking egos via essentially meaningless wins.

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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #40
                      Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                      Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                      Exactly, and that is part of the problem.Instead of encouraging players to challenge themselves to get better by pushing themselves against quality competition, they go the other way and make it about stroking egos via essentially meaningless wins.
                      Here's my thing. Why does someone needs encouragement to challenge themselves? I would never knowingly beat up on lesser competition.

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                      • MrWrestling3
                        MVP
                        • May 2015
                        • 1146

                        #41
                        Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                        Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                        Here's my thing. Why does someone needs encouragement to challenge themselves? I would never knowingly beat up on lesser competition.
                        Unfortunately, when it comes to the great majority.....unless either "motivated" to push themselves or put into a situation where there is no other choice, they will happily take the easiest route possible.IMO this is especially true in the online gaming world.

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                        • Erithtotl
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 679

                          #42
                          Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                          Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                          Unfortunately, when it comes to the great majority.....unless either "motivated" to push themselves or put into a situation where there is no other choice, they will happily take the easiest route possible.IMO this is especially true in the online gaming world.
                          2k actively motivates people to get the most one sided matchup by rep and rating. It's a lot for 'motivation' to overcome.

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                          • MrWrestling3
                            MVP
                            • May 2015
                            • 1146

                            #43
                            Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                            Originally posted by Erithtotl
                            2k actively motivates people to get the most one sided matchup by rep and rating. It's a lot for 'motivation' to overcome.
                            Yeah,that was almost exactly what I had said earlier. 2K encourages stat padding against lesser competition.By "motivation" I meant there would have to be some sort of reward to play against people at least close to the same level.

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                            • eNPHAN
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 53

                              #44
                              Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                              Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                              Exactly, and that is part of the problem.Instead of encouraging players to challenge themselves to get better by pushing themselves against quality competition, they go the other way and make it about stroking egos via essentially meaningless wins.
                              They’re supposed to play top competition but you aren’t?


                              Not gonna lie this is one of the funniest posts I’ve read on OS

                              I play rec whenever my real squad isn’t on. We don’t really play ranked pro am....we are in pay leagues and only really play when games are scheduled.

                              Any other time, we don’t have our real 5, we grab a random 5 out of people on our friends lists.

                              Why can’t yall find 4 people to play with, tho?

                              Like dude is in this post for 2-3 pages talking about motivation to play good players while complaining that he’s playing good players.

                              Biggest problem with 2k is everyone thinks they’re good and they deserve to win every game. Even when they clearly aren’t as good as the opponent.
                              Last edited by eNPHAN; 04-26-2020, 07:15 AM. Reason: Cause

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                              • ksuttonjr76
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8662

                                #45
                                Re: Pro-Am Players in REC

                                Originally posted by eNPHAN
                                They’re supposed to play top competition but you aren’t?


                                Not gonna lie this is one of the funniest posts I’ve read on OS

                                I play rec whenever my real squad isn’t on. We don’t really play ranked pro am....we are in pay leagues and only really play when games are scheduled.

                                Any other time, we don’t have our real 5, we grab a random 5 out of people on our friends lists.

                                Why can’t yall find 4 people to play with, tho?

                                Like dude is in this post for 2-3 pages talking about motivation to play good players while complaining that he’s playing good players.

                                Biggest problem with 2k is everyone thinks they’re good and they deserve to win every game. Even when they clearly aren’t as good as the opponent.
                                People know if they're way better than the actual competition. Don't be naive to that fact. I firmly believe that if you're capable of playing at a high level then you should play to your competition. I don't like it when people intentionally go out of their way to play weaker competition to pad their stats. I don't like it that squads are matched up against randoms. They need their own matchmaking. Period.

                                As for finding people....there are some gamers, like myself, don't like having a friends list. I want to pick up my controller, play some games, then I'm out. I don't like socializing with strangers in my videogames. Most people annoy me online anyways. However, I don't play, but I respect games where communication is critical, for example, like Rainbow 6.

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