NBA 2K21 Current & Next Gen - Classic & All-Time Team Rosters Errors & Feedback

[Real2KInsider]

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Middleton is not a better player than Big Dog Robinson at all. I would love to see Middleton carry a team to the playoffs without having the MVP by his side or go off on the defending champs in their building like Big Dog did. To have Middleton on the all time team at this stage of his career is premature and the only reason 2k put him on the all time bucks is because they couldnt get big dog Robinson to come on board in regards to licensing imo. The same applies for Trae Young.

Here for the receipts.

Trae Young is already a better player than Lenny Wilkins ever was, and is very obviously going to be a top 5 player in franchise history. After only two seasons, he's 4th in franchise PPG behind Nique, Pettit, and Maravich. He's 1st in APG. He's 10th in 3PM, will probably be 5th at the conclusion of his 3rd season, and the franchise leader by year 5.

Adding to this, Trae has now taken the Hawks on their deepest playoff run ever (10 wins) despite a lower seed in each series. He's 22.

[midwestking100]

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Here for the receipts.




Adding to this, Trae has now taken the Hawks on their deepest playoff run ever (10 wins) despite a lower seed in each series. He's 22.

Yeah in today's freedom of movement era. Just because you like this era doesn't mean everyone else has to. Trae is a liability as a defender and Middleton is inconsistent. Neither Milwaukee or Atlanta would have made it this far had Brooklyn never got hurt.

[Real2KInsider]

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Yeah in today's freedom of movement era. Just because you like this era doesn't mean everyone else has to. Trae is a liability as a defender and Middleton is inconsistent. Neither Milwaukee or Atlanta would have made it this far had Brooklyn never got hurt.

The Hawks played the Nets? Interesting assessment.

[midwestking100]

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The Hawks played the Nets? Interesting assessment.

They would have if Kyrie had never got hurt. Injuries affected these postseasons series kid.

[Real2KInsider]

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They would have if Kyrie had never got hurt. Injuries affected these postseasons series kid.

You literally just wrote that the Hawks wouldn't have made the Conference Finals if not for the Nets injuries. Please work on the whole straw man thing.

[midwestking100]

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You literally just wrote that the Hawks wouldn't have made the Conference Finals if not for the Nets injuries. Please work on the whole straw man thing.

I said would have which mean they would have played Brooklyn in the next round. They played Philly and Embiid wasn't really healthy right? Like I said injuries have affected this postseason but you don't get it.

[Real2KInsider]

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I said would have which mean they would have played Brooklyn in the next round. They played Philly and Embiid wasn't really healthy right? .

Injuries are part of the game.

Like I said injuries have affected this postseason but you don't get it

By your own arguments the Nets are a soft / injury prone load management team. Do try to pick a side of the fence.

[midwestking100]

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Injuries are part of the game.



By your own arguments the Nets are a soft / injury prone load management team. Do try to pick a side of the fence.

Injuries are a part of the game, but this era is the least durable era ever

[Real2KInsider]

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Injuries are a part of the game, but this era is the least durable era ever

Then why are players playing deeper into their careers than ever?

LeBron James (36) and Chris Paul (35) were All-NBA in 2021.

By comparison, only 25 years ago (1996) there were a grand total of FOUR players age 35+ who even met rate statistic requirements.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1996_per_game.html

Dale Ellis (35): 15 PPG in 32 MPG
Buck Williams (35): 7 PPG in 24 MPG
Ricky Pierce (36): 10 PPG in 19 MPG
Robert Parish (42): 4 PPG in 15 MPG

1986?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1986_per_game.html

Artis Gilmore (36): 17 PPG in 34 MPG
Julius Erving (35): 18 PPG in 33 MPG
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38): 23 PPG in 33 MPG (All-NBA)
Caldwell Jones (35): 5 PPG in 18 MPG

1976?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1976_per_game.html

John Havlicek (35): 17 PPG in 34 MPG (All-NBA)
Don Nelson (35): 6 PPG in 13 MPG

Durable my ***. Eras are more than just 3-5 All-time greats.

[AIRJ23]

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Then why are players playing deeper into their careers than ever?

LeBron James (36) and Chris Paul (35) were All-NBA in 2021.

By comparison, only 25 years ago (1996) there were a grand total of FOUR players age 35+ who even met rate statistic requirements.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1996_per_game.html

Dale Ellis (35): 15 PPG in 32 MPG
Buck Williams (35): 7 PPG in 24 MPG
Ricky Pierce (36): 10 PPG in 19 MPG
Robert Parish (42): 4 PPG in 15 MPG

1986?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1986_per_game.html

Artis Gilmore (36): 17 PPG in 34 MPG
Julius Erving (35): 18 PPG in 33 MPG
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38): 23 PPG in 33 MPG (All-NBA)
Caldwell Jones (35): 5 PPG in 18 MPG

1976?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1976_per_game.html

John Havlicek (35): 17 PPG in 34 MPG (All-NBA)
Don Nelson (35): 6 PPG in 13 MPG

Durable my ***. Eras are more than just 3-5 All-time greats.

Uhhhh maybe it’s cause back then they played the kind of competitive physical ball that’d make today’s players literally cry. Literally because in a no touch league they flop into each other to draw fouls then fall to the floor crying flagrant 2. Game isn’t physical at all today. You can play a lot longer when lobbing up 20 threes a game.

Injuries are a part of the game, but this era is the least durable era ever

Fact. Soft all the way through. How a game with more long range shots than ever, with “load management” nonsense, players sitting games out, has no physicality whatsoever, sees so many injuries is beyond me.

You watch classic games and teams played like they were at war. Trying to physically hurt each other. Yet the entire tier 1 group didn’t get injured for a playoffs. Injuries plagued 2019 too so it’s not just a 2021 thing.

Soft and spoiled mentalities breed soft and spoiled conditioning regiments.

All the tech, the padding, available today and they still can’t stay healthy. Soft game rules breed soft players.

[midwestking100]

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Then why are players playing deeper into their careers than ever?

LeBron James (36) and Chris Paul (35) were All-NBA in 2021.

By comparison, only 25 years ago (1996) there were a grand total of FOUR players age 35+ who even met rate statistic requirements.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1996_per_game.html

Dale Ellis (35): 15 PPG in 32 MPG
Buck Williams (35): 7 PPG in 24 MPG
Ricky Pierce (36): 10 PPG in 19 MPG
Robert Parish (42): 4 PPG in 15 MPG

1986?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1986_per_game.html

Artis Gilmore (36): 17 PPG in 34 MPG
Julius Erving (35): 18 PPG in 33 MPG
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38): 23 PPG in 33 MPG (All-NBA)
Caldwell Jones (35): 5 PPG in 18 MPG

1976?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1976_per_game.html

John Havlicek (35): 17 PPG in 34 MPG (All-NBA)
Don Nelson (35): 6 PPG in 13 MPG

Durable my ***. Eras are more than just 3-5 All-time greats.

Do you know the definition of durability?. Players are playing deep in their careers because obviously this era is not physical and practices/scrimmages are not as intense as they were in the past. Yet players of today are getting injured at an all time high and most of these injuries are cause by non contact. But obviously you don't see that.

[Real2KInsider]

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Do you know the definition of durability?. Players are playing deep in their careers because obviously this era is not physical and practices/scrimmages are not as intense as they were in the past.

So let's get this straight... players used to run themselves into the ground.... and now they don't... and you consider this a bad thing.

Yet players of today are getting injured at an all time high and most of these injuries are cause by non contact. But obviously you don't see that.

Tommy John in MLB is also a non-contact injury. Please educate yourself.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fl-sp-tommy-john-youth-injuries-20180618-story.html

If you can't see the difference in intensity of player action/movement over the last 30 years at the NBA level, there ain't much else that can be said. Ignorance is bliss, Can lead a camel to water but can't make it drink, etc etc etc

[Real2KInsider]

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Uhhhh maybe it’s cause back then they played the kind of competitive physical ball that’d make today’s players literally cry.

The average player today is 6'6" / 216. I think they can handle some hacks by dad-bod plumbers.

Literally because in a no touch league they flop into each other to draw fouls then fall to the floor

Newsflash: Flopping has existed since the 50 & 60s. The "Bad Boy" Pistons were known as much for their flopping as their physicality. Bill Laimbeer and Danny Ainge were among the biggest floppers in history. Robert Horry, Reggie Miller, Vlade Divac in the 90s. All they did was pave the way for future generations.

Fact. Soft all the way through. How a game with more long range shots than ever, with “load management” nonsense, players sitting games out, has no physicality whatsoever, sees so many injuries is beyond me.

Baseball is a non-contact sport and yet there are injuries. Weird how that works. Educate yourself.

You watch classic games and teams played like they were at war. Trying to physically hurt each other. Yet the entire tier 1 group didn’t get injured for a playoffs.

Newsflash: Those players all played injured and many ****ed their careers because of it.

It's one thing when 100K is on the line. Another when it's 100 million. You can scour NBA history and find lots of Isaiah Thomas stories (not to be confused w/ Isiah Thomas, whose career was likewise over at 32 like countless other guards of his era).

[midwestking100]

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So let's get this straight... players used to run themselves into the ground.... and now they don't... and you consider this a bad thing.




Tommy John in MLB is also a non-contact injury. Please educate yourself.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fl-sp-tommy-john-youth-injuries-20180618-story.html

If you can't see the difference in intensity of player action/movement over the last 30 years at the NBA level, there ain't much else that can be said. Ignorance is bliss, Can lead a camel to water but can't make it drink, etc etc etc

You do realize that the further athletes move away from compound movements that build bone density and tendon/ligaments strength the more we will see guys get hurt right? e.g. Anthony Davis

And maybe they ran themselves into the ground in the past but those guys had heart, were well conditioned and fundamentally sound than the guys that we are watching today. But you lost homie when you showed me those empty stats that had nothing to do with durability.

[Real2KInsider]

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But you lost homie when you showed me those empty stats that had nothing to do with durability.

Longevity has PLENTY to do with durability. Lol. Do you even understand what these words mean?

Isiah Thomas played 979 of a possible 1,066 games (92%) and abruptly retired due to injury at Age 32.

Chris Paul has played 1090 of a possible 1,276 games (85%) and was All-NBA at Age 35.

Maybe with a bit of load management IT wouldn't have been in his 3rd year as Raptors GM by the time he was Chris Paul's age.