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  • AIRJ23
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    • Apr 2021
    • 2804

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K21 Current & Next Gen - Classic & All-Time Team Rosters Errors & Feedback

    Originally posted by Real2KInsider
    So let's get this straight... players used to run themselves into the ground.... and now they don't... and you consider this a bad thing.




    Tommy John in MLB is also a non-contact injury. Please educate yourself.
    When Tommy John underwent the revolutionary surgical procedure on his left elbow in 1974 that would become his namesake, it was a desperate measure to save a valuable pitcher’s major league c…


    If you can't see the difference in intensity of player action/movement over the last 30 years at the NBA level, there ain't much else that can be said. Ignorance is bliss, Can lead a camel to water but can't make it drink, etc etc etc
    Yeah shooting 50 threes a game and leaving wide open lanes, paint and perimeters is really more intense. Damn. Those injuries must come from intense step backs and euro steps. 3 second rule now means even defenders can’t clog lanes. Wide open lanes and no hand checking means anyone can score in today’s NBA. Luka said today’s NBA is easier to score in than a Euro league. That’s pathetic. There’s a reason they’re now talking about changing it again to bring defense back.

    Try watching any of these guys guard Shaq in the paint, take a screen from Malone or have Jordan locking them up. Battle a rebound with Rodman. Try and escape a press from Scottie. It’d be laughable.

    Bro they literally eject dudes for accidentally slapping guys in the face now. Dudes back in the day could adapt to today’s game given the massive improvements in tech and knowledge. All that padding and modern players still break. Guys today couldn’t handle the classic game if you put em in a time machine. Their bodies are fragile in TODAY’S no touch game. They’d shatter.

    Many of the top athletic stats are still held by old players.

    Yeah, they got 100M on the line evading them from any passion in the game and softening them into coddled butter. Can’t even finish a playoff run where the most common shot is an open three. Please. There’s a reason ratings are down. Believe it or not but people enjoy watching good D. 145-150 games don’t mean offense is better now, it just means the multiple rules the game enacted to make scoring way easier have succeeded.

    Originally posted by Real2KInsider
    The average player today is 6'6" / 216. I think they can handle some hacks by dad-bod plumbers.




    Newsflash: Flopping has existed since the 50 & 60s. The "Bad Boy" Pistons were known as much for their flopping as their physicality. Bill Laimbeer and Danny Ainge were among the biggest floppers in history. Robert Horry, Reggie Miller, Vlade Divac in the 90s. All they did was pave the way for future generations.



    Baseball is a non-contact sport and yet there are injuries. Weird how that works. Educate yourself.



    Newsflash: Those players all played injured and many ****ed their careers because of it.

    It's one thing when 100K is on the line. Another when it's 100 million. You can scour NBA history and find lots of Isaiah Thomas stories (not to be confused w/ Isiah Thomas, whose career was likewise over at 32 like countless other guards of his era).
    Dad bod plumbers?�� Jocik and Luka, two of today’s best players look and move less athletic than nearly any top tier player in the past. Jocik, your MVP who got ejected for accidentally touching a guys face (who dropped to the floor like he got shot) looks like he never worked out a day in his life. Dude has the most dad plumber bod of any MVP in history.

    So nah, I don’t think today’s 6’6 players (smaller and lighter than average players of the past, meaning guards have a lot less big towers to climb over) could handle an intense game of heart and survivalism. Wait till they hear they don’t get individual private jets.

    These guys can’t even handle no touch defense without getting injured. Let’s see how long they hold up a game crying to the ref cause Payton’s smothering em and running his mouth about their mama. KD will have to create a few new burner accounts.

    And LOL NO. The goofeball flops of today never happened back then. Dudes didn’t gyrate bodies into each other and get calls or grab each other’s arms to gain fouls. The fact that you put “flop” and the Bad Boy Pistons in the same sentence makes me question if you ever watched games before 2010. Don’t equate hitting the pavement hard with today’s clown flop where grown men twist their bodies in mid air pretending a tornado hit them. You’re actually proving my durability point.
    Last edited by AIRJ23; 07-09-2021, 09:55 AM.

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    • AIRJ23
      MVP
      • Apr 2021
      • 2804

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K21 Current & Next Gen - Classic & All-Time Team Rosters Errors & Feedback

      The “dad bod” cliche from new age romanticizers who never watched ball before 2010 especially cracks me up.

      I’ve yet to see any modern player showcase a better physique than Jordan, Rodman, Pippen, Malone, Shawn Kemp, Shaq, etc. etc. Sh*t even Charles Oakley looked like a brick wall. MJ still holds the NBA vertical jump record. On shoes that would give you blisters today.

      KD looks like a wet noodle and appears as durable as one. Harden came into the season looking like he sat on a couch all summer. Jocik literally looks like a plumber and is the least athletic MVP ever. Luka looks like a guy I bought a cell phone from. LMAO with the mindless “dad bod” cliche. Ya’ll never actually watched games from the 90’s.

      Problem with today’s NBA culture is it devalues heart and mindset. Which are the most key recipes to every true GOAT potion. Ask the legacy of Kobe who’s more skilled than any player today yet would tell you that skill was simply a byproduct of said heart and mindset.
      Last edited by AIRJ23; 07-09-2021, 10:15 AM.

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      • Real2KInsider
        MVP
        • Dec 2003
        • 4657

        #48
        Re: NBA 2K21 Current & Next Gen - Classic & All-Time Team Rosters Errors & Feedback

        Originally posted by AIRJ23
        Yeah shooting 50 threes a game and leaving wide open lanes, paint and perimeters is really more intense. Damn. Those injuries must come from intense step backs and euro steps.
        We are Nebraska's Orthopaedic Center! Located in Lincoln, NE with clinics throughout the state, we are able to offer complete orthopaedic care to all.


        Most NBA injuries aren't from impact. You seem confused and think this is football.

        Yes, Stepbacks and all the quick bursts that go into modern shot creation (and the defense required to keep up with them) will lead to injuries over a prolonged period. Crazy how athletic performance works.


        Try watching any of these guys guard Shaq in the paint, take a screen from Malone or have Jordan locking them up. Battle a rebound with Rodman. Try and escape a press from Scottie. It’d be laughable.
        Unfortunately for you, the other 99% of the league was players like Craig Ehlo and Chris Dudley. Ball handlers today are bigger and stronger today than any era of NBA history (by a country mile). You think Scottie is having a pronounced impact on Russell Westbrook or John Wall (much less Lebron or Luka)? These guys aren't Mark Price or Avery Johnson.


        Dudes back in the day could adapt to today’s game given the massive improvements in tech and knowledge.
        Dudes today couldn’t handle the classic game if you put em in a time machine. Their bodies are fragile in TODAY’S no touch game. They’d shatter.
        You seem to think adaptation works only one way. That's a curious stance.

        Yeah, they got 100M on the line evading them from any passion in the game and softening them into coddled butter.
        Sorry I just think this statement is funny because only keyboard clowns think they have some notion of the mental toughness of professional athletes. The internet tough guys calling everyone snowflake left and right yet meltdown the moment their world view is questioned.

        Believe it or not but people enjoy watching good D.
        Then explain why the ratings tanked from 1999-2005?

        Dad bod plumbers?�� Jocik and Luka, two of today’s best players look and move less athletic than nearly any top tier player in the past.
        You clearly have never seen Larry Bird or Kevin McHale play.

        So nah, I don’t think today’s 6’6 players (much smaller and lighter than average players of the past
        Centers are getting smaller. Guards are not. Put in some research kid.

        meaning guards have a lot less big towers to climb over)
        Ah yes, because we full well know how hard it was for them to climb over Rik Smits, Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, etc. It was Jon Koncak, Felton Spencer, Tree Rolllins, and Greg Kite holding everything together. Today's stars are LUCKY they never had to drive on Kevin Duckworth or Mike Gminski.

        Wait till they hear they don’t get individual private jets.
        I know this is hard for you to understand - the NBA is more than 2 people at a time.


        The fact that you put “flop” and the Bad Boy Pistons in the same sentence makes me question if you ever watched games before 2010.
        LMAO

        https://www.nba.com/history/legends/.../bill-laimbeer

        Originally posted by The NBA
        The Laimbeer “flop” became the stuff of legend. A grimacing Laimbeer would often go careening to the floor in reaction to the slightest tap from an opponent. More often than not, the whistle went his way. With aggravating if not refreshing candor, Laimbeer never disavowed his on-court histrionics.
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        The commentary is just chef's kiss
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        People talk about this **** era like it was NBA Jam. Petulant immaturity/goonery and nobody with a vert over 30 inches.

        THIS is the guy who would have modern players pissing their pants. Coddled butter indeed.
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        • daveberg
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 2788

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

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          • AIRJ23
            MVP
            • Apr 2021
            • 2804

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

            Originally posted by Real2KInsider
            https://www.ortholinc.com/newsevents...-in-basketball

            Most NBA injuries aren't from impact. You seem confused and think this is football.

            Yes, Stepbacks and all the quick bursts that go into modern shot creation (and the defense required to keep up with them) will lead to injuries over a prolonged period. Crazy how athletic performance works.




            Unfortunately for you, the other 99% of the league was players like Craig Ehlo and Chris Dudley. Ball handlers today are bigger and stronger today than any era of NBA history (by a country mile). You think Scottie is having a pronounced impact on Russell Westbrook or John Wall (much less Lebron or Luka)? These guys aren't Mark Price or Avery Johnson.




            You seem to think adaptation works only one way. That's a curious stance.



            Sorry I just think this statement is funny because only keyboard clowns think they have some notion of the mental toughness of professional athletes. The internet tough guys calling everyone snowflake left and right yet meltdown the moment their world view is questioned.



            Then explain why the ratings tanked from 1999-2005?



            You clearly have never seen Larry Bird or Kevin McHale play.



            Centers are getting smaller. Guards are not. Put in some research kid.



            Ah yes, because we full well know how hard it was for them to climb over Rik Smits, Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, etc. It was Jon Koncak, Felton Spencer, Tree Rolllins, and Greg Kite holding everything together. Today's stars are LUCKY they never had to drive on Kevin Duckworth or Mike Gminski.



            I know this is hard for you to understand - the NBA is more than 2 people at a time.




            LMAO

            https://www.nba.com/history/legends/.../bill-laimbeer



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            The commentary is just chef's kiss
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            People talk about this **** era like it was NBA Jam. Petulant immaturity/goonery and nobody with a vert over 30 inches.

            THIS is the guy who would have modern players pissing their pants. Coddled butter indeed.
            BRO THOSE ARE NOTHING LIKE TODAYS CLOWN FLOPS LMAO. You’re literally proving my point. And Lambeer is the worst guy to pick since he was cold clocking dudes driving on him. Imagine LeBron up against that lmao.

            Larry Bird would dominate today’s game. You seriously aren’t bringing him up. His blueprint is being used today x100, minus the D. He was doing long range threes before it had a nickname.

            And I said today’s “AVERAGE” player. Reading comprehension is fundamental (unlike today’s NBA).
            And your MVP today and boy wonder literally look worse than those players you mentioned. And zero players today showcase the “bods” of the guys I mentioned. Today’s average vertical is 28” and players are small as hell. You act like everyone today moves like Kyrie when most players couldn’t drive past a 35 year old Payton with hand checks. Good thing they have the step back and good thing travels don’t get called anymore. Anything to make the NBA the easiest league in the world to score in to trick people like you into thinking “pLaYeRS aRe MoRe sKiLlED tHaN eVeR” despite them showing that by playing a one dimensional three point contest game.

            And LMAO at you believing step backs are athletic moves that justify fragile injury prone players. Case closed. League is soft cause fans believe a step back is an athletic move.

            Ratings went down because MJ left (his return at 40 doesn’t count). And MJ still holds the record for highest rated finals. How embarrassing for the league. Maybe watching LeBron flop and play no D for 10 years and Steph shoot uncontested logo shots just isn’t as enticing.

            And someone got injured yesterday due to impact. Believe it or not but when the league was actually physical and intense (and no, a step back is not intense LMAO), impact did lead to injuries. And yet players were tough and conditioned enough to withstand it.

            Today’s coddled crew do a euro step and break an ankle. Yeah man it’s so athletic today with every franchise player in street close LOL. 50 threes a game is a world class athletic showcase. So is gyrating bodies in air or performing Oscar worthy winces of pain to draw contact or flagrants.

            I’m not calling anyone a “snowflake” like some doofus who uses that word. But if you think today’s twitter fingers like KD are “mentally tough”, again, you never watched sports before 2010. The money made them soft. As did the coddling from fans like you who don’t demand more.

            And Scottie would have a much more pronounced effect on Russ or Wall than about any non defender today. Especially if he could actually defend which players had to withstand before. You talk like the NBA didn’t change all rules to make people like you think offenses are better, simply because they’re easier. Just admit you never studied basketball before 2010.

            Russ never had to drive into a paint with Bol or Mutombo or Olojuwon camped out. He gets wide open lanes due to the 3 second rule and still can’t put together a highlight reel like D Wilkins.



            Last edited by AIRJ23; 07-09-2021, 07:21 PM.

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            • AIRJ23
              MVP
              • Apr 2021
              • 2804

              #51
              Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

              Of course today’s average players are more multi skilled on the offensive end (and far less on the defensive end), but it’s not like they showcase it in games with relaxed defense, zero toughness and 50 threes. But nu age romanticizers like to act like some of today’s franchise players aren’t the least athletic in NBA franchise player history. Guys like Jordan, Shaq, would dominate today far more than they did yesterday. Shaq couldn’t get as physical but the league rules changed to literally hold players hands to be able to do what MJ did through battlefield defense, in order to save flailing ratings (and they still can’t get close). That’s simply facts.

              As someone who actually still watches old games, it’s one dimensional now. FAR less exciting and intense. That’s product of its lack of grit and heart.

              The most athletic players from every position still come from decades ago, minus Giannis and Lebron’s positions. Kyrie is up there but Iverson still gets the edge. And even then, dudes like Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone would kill in today’s game considering they’d work on their long range shots. And they exemplify physiques no one today showcases.

              Toni Kukoc would average 30 today. Again, yesterday’s players with jump shots would thrive in today’s game. Today’s players put in a time machine would go crying to mommy the second someone checks them with a hand at the perimeter or when they gyrate flop into someone and the entire area laughs.

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              • VDusen04
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 13031

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                Welp, I came in to provide some classic & all-time team roster feedback but this thread is just a complete mess sooo...

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                • Cowboyfan_19
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 724

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                  I just thought I'd chime in & say overall ratings on these players does not accurately reflect on-court ability in a lot of cases.


                  Karl Malone feels like the worst 95+ overall rated player in 2k history. Slow moving, cannot finish at the rim (then again, can anybody make standing layups in this game?), can't create own shot. 1971 Kareem is only 1 ovr higher than Malone, but feels like a beast & actually plays like his rating says. Stockton is a 93 overall? Other than his shooting & solid passing, he plays like an average point guard. How are you gonna tell me Nuggets Carmelo or Rockets McGrady or Brandon Roy are worst ovr rated players but can literally take over a game?



                  Suns Nash is a 95 ovr. Does Nash even remotely have the same impact on the game that 2004 Kobe does? Same rating.


                  On paper, the 1986 Celtics have a fantastic starting 5. But why is it that they can barely compete with tier 3 teams? This is supposed to be a top 5 team in NBA history, & 2k's over here giving this entire team speed in the 50s, making them look like the old folks that you feel sorry for at rec centers.


                  The point I'm trying to make, is that Athletic slashers with speed should not be the most dominating archetype by an absolute landslide. Give other players who dominated the game differently a chance.


                  Just tone down the speed boosting & make standing layups actually not brick just because someone breathes on you, and I think we'll finally have some balance in our classic players.

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                  • AIRJ23
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 2804

                    #54
                    Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                    Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                    I just thought I'd chime in & say overall ratings on these players does not accurately reflect on-court ability in a lot of cases.


                    Karl Malone feels like the worst 95+ overall rated player in 2k history. Slow moving, cannot finish at the rim (then again, can anybody make standing layups in this game?), can't create own shot. 1971 Kareem is only 1 ovr higher than Malone, but feels like a beast & actually plays like his rating says. Stockton is a 93 overall? Other than his shooting & solid passing, he plays like an average point guard. How are you gonna tell me Nuggets Carmelo or Rockets McGrady or Brandon Roy are worst ovr rated players but can literally take over a game?



                    Suns Nash is a 95 ovr. Does Nash even remotely have the same impact on the game that 2004 Kobe does? Same rating.


                    On paper, the 1986 Celtics have a fantastic starting 5. But why is it that they can barely compete with tier 3 teams? This is supposed to be a top 5 team in NBA history, & 2k's over here giving this entire team speed in the 50s, making them look like the old folks that you feel sorry for at rec centers.


                    The point I'm trying to make, is that Athletic slashers with speed should not be the most dominating archetype by an absolute landslide. Give other players who dominated the game differently a chance.


                    Just tone down the speed boosting & make standing layups actually not brick just because someone breathes on you, and I think we'll finally have some balance in our classic players.
                    Yup. The dimensions of the game are broken. Most tier one all time players won’t even take shots or feel like they have zero badges if you play as them, but then some random ones like Steve Nash will absolutely roast you if you play against him.

                    I feel like some legends they spend time to develop (like Kareem who not coincidentally got a new real face scan) and others they simply treat like fake created players.

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                    • AIRJ23
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 2804

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                      LMAO Team USA “today’s finest” just lost to Nigeria. America’s first ever basketball loss to Africa. Maybe flops weren’t called.

                      Mix that with finals ratings plummeting over 10-20 years ago. Teams that are bought (not built) seeing flailing ratings over teams that are built….

                      There was even a sprained ankle in practice.

                      The NBA. Or US ball culture at least, is broken.
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                      • midwestking100
                        MVP
                        • May 2012
                        • 1561

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                        Originally posted by VDusen04
                        Welp, I came in to provide some classic & all-time team roster feedback but this thread is just a complete mess sooo...

                        This thread is a complete mess because one guy in this thread thinks everyone should like this era when really it's all about our own preference.

                        He also can't see that injuries are destroying today product yet this era is the least durable/physical era ever. Load management is the way to go though.
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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                          This thread is an absolute disaster SMH [emoji2359]


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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                            Originally posted by midwestking100
                            This thread is a complete mess because one guy in this thread thinks everyone should like this era when really it's all about our own preference.

                            This is literally what both sides of this argument is doing though…


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                            • daveberg
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2788

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                              It is what it is.

                              We're all guilty of defending our favourite era of hoops, it's harmless, so long as folk can keep themselves in check.

                              My team has made the finals for the first time since 93, I watched game 1 and nearly fell asleep. Love my Suns, but I'm just not a fan of the way the game is played anymore.

                              I'll happily go back and watch the entire 1993 finals and still be in awe. It's just the time frame of Hoops I most cherish - late 80's through to the early 2000's. The league for me, was incredible back then.

                              Used to love watching that 'plumber', Thunder Dan pull up from 35 feet, and that 'electrician', Sir Charles rumble through clogged lanes and dunk on folk.
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                              • AIRJ23
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 2804

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2K21 Current &amp; Next Gen - Classic &amp; All-Time Team Rosters Errors &amp; Feedback

                                Originally posted by daveberg
                                It is what it is.

                                We're all guilty of defending our favourite era of hoops, it's harmless, so long as folk can keep themselves in check.

                                My team has made the finals for the first time since 93, I watched game 1 and nearly fell asleep. Love my Suns, but I'm just not a fan of the way the game is played anymore.

                                I'll happily go back and watch the entire 1993 finals and still be in awe. It's just the time frame of Hoops I most cherish - late 80's through to the early 2000's. The league for me, was incredible back then.

                                Used to love watching that 'plumber', Thunder Dan pull up from 35 feet, and that 'electrician', Sir Charles rumble through clogged lanes and dunk on folk.
                                Haha well said. Rewatching the 93 Finals and I’m still glued to the tv. First two games of this year’s finals had all the excitement and sense of occasion as a pickup game.

                                ‘92 Dream Team never lost a game to Nigeria (or anyone) either (never let a team get closer than 32 points away).

                                Shiiii…. Craig Hodges still holds the 3 point contest record. Not bad for a locksmith. Usually I wouldn’t put much weight into a 3 point contest but considering today’s game literally is a 3 point contest, imagine the damage he could do today. Oh and he’s fundamentally sound as a library.

                                Special shout-out to the two time champ Hakeem who is still the only player to achieve 200 steals and 200 blocks in one season. Not bad for a janitor.

                                Or Wilt the Stilt having the best collective ATHLETIC figures of anyone in history (and arguably being the best athlete in history). 7’1, 48” vertical, 4.6 40 yard dash at 280 lbs, 600 lb bench press, dominated in nearly every single sport including volleyball. But yeah he’s a plumber and Nikola Jocik who has all the hops and speed of a stalled greyhound is an athletic superhuman. LOL. Wilt would probably break his own 100 point record today. The only person who could “guard” him is a ref.

                                It’s sad today’s generation who probably never even watched full Kobe games have to be convinced today’s game is the most ultimate example of how the game is played. NBA corporate really pulling the wool over eyes. Sad.

                                No coincidence that gen are the same group on 2K cultured into running zig zags, doing 22 second pointless dribble dances then shooting “LoGO sHoT” airballs then getting mad at teammates for not exclusively shooting tHrEeS when they’re not pulling up to brick a three on a wide open fast break instead of taking it to the rack.

                                I’ll say it again; today’s NBA is broken. It needs an overhaul. Too bloated, needs to get back to basics.
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