NBA 2K21 Stamina Issue Continues to Hurt Sim-Style Players

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA 2K21 Stamina Issue Continues to Hurt Sim-Style Players

We've had this in in prior 2K games, where players would need at least 'some' rest in those 24 minutes. It wasn't overbearing then. I don't think it would be impossible to implement now.

An element of balance is needed in H2H competitive modes...even at the sake of some 'realism'. I get that NBA players have incredible stamina and could theoretically play all game, but its kind of like shooting %'s, which a lot of us have our opinions on....I read that Demar Derozan hits 40% of his heavily contested shots...we'd have a fit if that was drooped on us on a regular basis...we want our contests to matter.

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[ChaseB]

Re: NBA 2K21 Stamina Issue Continues to Hurt Sim-Style Players

It's not really a hot take to say you should need to play more than five players even in a PNO game. Like, I get the counter arguments in terms of what realism means in a video game, but this is pretty basic logic. If you're a turbo psycho, eventually there need to be more pronounced consequences.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K21 Stamina Issue Continues to Hurt Sim-Style Players

We've had this in in prior 2K games, where players would need at least 'some' rest in those 24 minutes. It wasn't overbearing then. I don't think it would be impossible to implement now.

An element of balance is needed in H2H competitive modes...even at the sake of some 'realism'. I get that NBA players have incredible stamina and could theoretically play all game, but its kind of like shooting %'s, which a lot of us have our opinions on....I read that Demar Derozan hits 40% of his heavily contested shots...we'd have a fit if that was drooped on us on a regular basis...we want our contests to matter.

On a related note: I don't think the average fan (and 2K mechanically) process basketball subtleties in a realistic manner.

Prime John Wall was widely regarded as one of the fastest players in the NBA a few years back. Sports VU cameras tracked all NBA players and it turned out Wall had the lowest MPH on the court of any guard.

How is that possible, when he's known for his speed? He spends most of his time walking around the court. His speed BURST was incredible, but he wasn't flying around out there in a full sprint the duration of the game. He is exerting himself on maybe 3 seconds of every possession.

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The way 2K has stamina setup is that you need it to do literally anything on the court. IRL players are much more deliberate with their movements. They aren't chaining 5 dribble moves every time they touch the ball in order to get themselves open. Only the ELITE players are doing this.

Some of this also might be an extension of their subpar movement system, which isn't rated with any type of consistency or balance.

Speed = Open-court speed (fastbreak)
Acceleration = Half-court speed (i.e. burst)
Lateral Quickness =Shuffling speed (defensive rotation)

Just from looking at ratings over the last 20 years, they don't really understand the difference between a Stephon Marbury or Kyrie Irving type of player and a Russell Westbrook/Ben Simmons.