Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

**Walt Frazier** · 03-18-2021, 07:57 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by Junior Moe

How do you know that 2K has dropped gameplay support? Mike Wang and Czar could still be updating the gameplay and just not tweeting about it. That would actually be better, IMO. As soon as Mike says they tweaked something everyone instantly hates that aspect. May as well update it silently and monitor it. That way they can discern the legit complaints from the folks how complain just because.

Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

This is the problem with annual sport releases. This one compounded as the next game is only six months away now.

**Walt Frazier** · 03-18-2021, 07:59 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984

I could never go back to last gen due to the sliding. The foot planting is way better on Next gen.

Yep, I have current gen PC heavily modded and it is not a bad game at all. But the sliding and spacing are 'terrible' once you have played next gen.

Next gen is a strong game...that has horrific CPU AI D v certain plays...and those things are massive holes once you realise them.

A real shame.

**cvantu** · 03-18-2021, 08:12 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by Walt Frazier

Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

This is the problem with annual sport releases. This one compounded as the next game is only six months away now.

It still isn't 2K4, 2K5, 2K9, 2K12, or 2K14. All of those releases are significantly worse. I may have mitigated the P&R AI as detailed in my thread, so I could use some people to test it out. It does not require the tinkering of sliders.

**simbayless** · 03-18-2021, 08:44 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

[QUOTE=Walt Frazier;2050341359]Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

C'mon bruh 70 dollars the first entry and we can't even get post gameplay support?we deserve better next gen should of started 2k22 if they wasn't ready just tells me the company as a whole just wanted the quick money bag

**tru11** · 03-19-2021, 01:18 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Funny that people think live was competition.

It wasent.

Nfl2k now that was competition.
Pretty much why madden had to go exclusive others wise madden might end up like live lol

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**Walt Frazier** · 03-19-2021, 05:05 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

[QUOTE=simbayless;2050341395]

Originally posted by Walt Frazier

Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

C'mon bruh 70 dollars the first entry and we can't even get post gameplay support?we deserve better next gen should of started 2k22 if they wasn't ready just tells me the company as a whole just wanted the quick money bag

Trust me friend, I agree with you. 100%

But I have just gotten used to how things are and realise they won’t change.

True story...years ago I knew a producer on EA’s last college basketball game. It has the worst bug ever...tied games had no OT.

An insanely bad bug. He and the team wanted to fix it....higher ups said ‘no, not enough sales to justfiy working on it further’

And that was that.

IMO the software / gaming industry is just about the worst there is for after sales service. Rare companies stand out, but most grab your money and move on. Me getting angry still won’t change it.

**KM1991UK** · 03-19-2021, 06:12 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by Gosens6

If you think last gen is superior to the next gen version than I want some of the good ganja you're smoking my friend.

Go on then. What’s next generation about NBA 2K21? The graphics are average, the entire city looks and feels fake. The physics are just as bad as always. Loading times are faster, excluding the Zion screen. But that’s it? What’s next generation about this game?

**JUSTlFIED** · 03-19-2021, 08:26 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

[QUOTE=Walt Frazier;2050341541]

Originally posted by simbayless

Trust me friend, I agree with you. 100%

But I have just gotten used to how things are and realise they won’t change.

True story...years ago I knew a producer on EA’s last college basketball game. It has the worst bug ever...tied games had no OT.

An insanely bad bug. He and the team wanted to fix it....higher ups said ‘no, not enough sales to justfiy working on it further’

And that was that.

IMO the software / gaming industry is just about the worst there is for after sales service. Rare companies stand out, but most grab your money and move on. Me getting angry still won’t change it.

Yep, that what I was trying to point out in my last post. The handling of 2K in the last few years reeks of "bad" upper management.

I feel for the devs. I wish the gaming press like Jason Schrier was more into sports games and started leaking bad practices, that usually lights a fire under these publishers

**simbayless** · 03-19-2021, 11:35 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

I bet when this new nfl 2k football comes out 2k gonna be very transparent the first year to bring the consumers in
Mark my words.

**JUSTlFIED** · 03-19-2021, 11:37 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by simbayless

I bet when this new nfl 2k football comes out 2k gonna be very transparent the first year to bring the consumers in
Mark my words.

Its going to be arcade based though like 2K playgrounds and WWE Battlegrounds..........no thanks lol

**simbayless** · 03-19-2021, 11:43 AM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by JUSTlFIED

Its going to be arcade based though like 2K playgrounds and WWE Battlegrounds..........no thanks lol

I agree but my point still stands lol

**ksuttonjr76** · 03-19-2021, 12:26 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by Walt Frazier

Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

This is the problem with annual sport releases. This one compounded as the next game is only six months away now.

Damn...it really is only six months away, isn't it?

In hindsight, I'm not sure why I had such high expectations for this game. It's alright. It's definitely not the worse game that I have played, and I would actually consider it slightly above average with some of the next-gen tweaks.

However...some game developers were struggling to produce next-gen games during pandemic, and some of those companies had YEARS (Halo Infinite) to work on it. I feel like a sucker for thinking 2K was going to come out with two high quality games during a pandemic. I'll give them points for trying though.

**ksuttonjr76** · 03-19-2021, 12:36 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984

I could never go back to last gen due to the sliding. The foot planting is way better on Next gen.

Oh yeah. There are definitely some things that are better on next-gen. Current-gen felt like it gave me more OTF control than next gen, and the shooting felt better to me. After playing so many "next-gen" games on the Series X, admittedly, I got sucked back in to next-gen NBA 2K21 due to the graphics. I couldn't ignore the side-by-side comparison any longer.

I admire those people who can go back and play older NBA 2K titles after they got the latest one. However, had they updated the rosters on NBA 2K20 to remove injuries, that might have been the only time that I would have played an older title. Sabonis and Lamb were too big of cogs to the team for me to ignore and not care about using them in PNO.

**Gosens6** · 03-20-2021, 08:26 AM

Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by simbayless

Pump ya brakes y'all looking at me like Ryan Moody levels towards madden.I am a 2k stan through and through but I'm not gonna let 2k forget where they come from. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism.
When I say last Gen is better I'm talking about :

Pick N Roll
Transition Defense
Hall of fame too easy even with sliders and CPU gets cold streaks too often that leads the momentum swing to the human side too often

Let's be real take away impressed graphics MyNBA, and circus threes then you basically have last gen $60

I’ll give you the defense. Next gen D is a mess when it comes It comes to the pick and roll in particular.

Player movement and foot planting on last gen is just so outdated in comparison, and it’s not even close to me.

Let’s be honest here, both games have their issues but last gen looks and feels well, last gen.

I’m not crowning 2K21 next gen as the greatest sports game of all time, but I’m having fun with it despite its flaws.

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**loso_34** · 03-20-2021, 01:29 PM

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Originally posted by Walt Frazier

Beluba has said he "is working on 22"...

There is a reason the patch notes have 'nothing' about game play fixes...

They have moved on.

This is the problem with annual sport releases. This one compounded as the next game is only six months away now.

They still tweak gameplay but don’t leave patch notes.

Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

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