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  • nikulover
    Rookie
    • Jan 2021
    • 20

    #16
    Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

    Originally posted by JohnTaylor
    They need to tone down speed boost animations on both offense and defense.

    You can explode unrealistically fast on offense, closeout crazy fast with block attempts from a no-start position.

    2K is using unrealistic closing speed to band-aid or hide flaws with defense this year.

    Time to patch or re-adjust speed threshold because the top speed is too fast and the slower speed players aren't slow enough.
    This is what I feel too. There are definitely real improvements to defense this year. But I feel their solution to man-to-man defense is a straight-up bandage fix that gives the CPU an insane speed boost.

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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
      Once in a Lifetime Memory
      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #17
      Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      This is where I fall as an online H2H player..

      I enjoy the balance.

      I like that these guys in REC are pulling up for more middys because they actually have to respect the 7 footer patrolling the paint.


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      The floater game has been huge for me this year. My main build is physically incapable of dunking but I’ve been able to throw up floaters any time I get run off the 3 point line


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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
        Once in a Lifetime Memory
        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #18
        Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

        Originally posted by jk31
        In my opinion they should not tone down blocks, which historically have always been very rare compared to real life, but instead increase shooting fouls on mistimed block attempts. How often have you been able to fake an opponent into the air, just to have nothing happen?

        Agreed. And likewise for the steal spamming. One of the issues in general in 2K is there’s no punishment for spamming things be it blocks, steals, or ball handling.


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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #19
          Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
          The floater game has been huge for me this year. My main build is physically incapable of dunking but I’ve been able to throw up floaters any time I get run off the 3 point line


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          Someone absolutely destroyed us in Rec with floaters tonight. At least 8-9. Only got my hand on one of them. It was cool to watch despite us losing, lol

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          • smuhead
            Rookie
            • Aug 2010
            • 124

            #20
            Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

            Originally posted by alabamarob
            I am cool with higher rated shot blockers, blocking a lot of shots. Deters people from spamming the paint just like real life. However, the chase down blocks should be toned down. People without this badge or high shot block ratings should not be pulling off some of these blocks.

            Good ole Payton Pritchard with the chase down block.

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            Originally posted by ILLSmak
            Better to have people’s hands contest shots opposed to their presence but yea chase downs hahaha. My dude 7’3 the distance you can cover is obscene. Check https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSaX7pLVuw

            Obv worse online but pass lane steals is the same idea except people flyin thru lane blocking as I said ruins their new contest system.

            -Smak
            The problem in that video wasn't the chase down block. It was Embid slow *** reaction to receiving the pass. Then the slow dramatic animation that took another 10 minutes just to get him to set his feet and jump.

            Everything should have been a nice smooth fluid catch & release dunk.

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            • tru11
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1816

              #21
              Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

              Yeah both vids seems more like an issue with the offense decision making then the defense…

              Why trae would go for that type of dunk is beyond me and embiid had a brain fart catching the pass and even then ignore the fella wide open in the corner lol


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              • Dione2014
                Pro
                • Dec 2014
                • 720

                #22
                Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                Originally posted by alabamarob
                I am cool with higher rated shot blockers, blocking a lot of shots. Deters people from spamming the paint just like real life. However, the chase down blocks should be toned down. People without this badge or high shot block ratings should not be pulling off some of these blocks.

                Good ole Payton Pritchard with the chase down block.

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                Man this game honestly just feels like one big band-aid fix for the defense to compensate for NBA 2K21. Everything is ramped up at an unrealistic rate.

                Guys are blocking shots they have no business blocking, guys are keeping up on fastbreaks with players that are much faster than them, you can have the cpu defenders go under screens without punishment, close out speeds are absolutely insane… like that the hell man.

                The CPU plays tight on everyone regardless of ratings. It can be Ben Simmons or Shaq. Doesn’t matter. Defense settings don’t work this year as far as coverage. Setting to gap does absolutely nothing. I’m sure there’s more, but I’d be all day typing here. I hope most of these issues can be fixed in a patch.


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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #23
                  Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                  Originally posted by tru11
                  Yeah both vids seems more like an issue with the offense decision making then the defense…

                  Why trae would go for that type of dunk is beyond me and embiid had a brain fart catching the pass and even then ignore the fella wide open in the corner lol


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                  Too me.... Smack video is kind of ok. He just picked the wrong animation to finish.

                  Alabama video... I don't know it seems pretty fine to me. But the most realist thing here though. What Trae should of done is ver or put the defender in jail and then finish.
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                  • tru11
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1816

                    #24
                    Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    Too me.... Smack video is kind of ok. He just picked the wrong animation to finish.

                    Alabama video... I don't know it seems pretty fine to me. But the most realist thing here though. What Trae should of done is ver or put the defender in jail and then finish.

                    Yeah man.

                    I wish we would just stop calling for stuff to be fixed when in most cases its more just questionable user/cpu in put/decision making.

                    Both embiid and trae had plenty of different options to choose from,all who would/could have a variety of different outcomes at that.

                    Had embiid speed up his finish or kicked it to the corner for an open 3 then their would be nothing to talk about.

                    Had trae done a reverse lay up, 2 handed dunk, pumpfake standing lay up or maybe a hop step jumper then their might be something else to argue about.

                    I always recommend using absolute controls for the right analog as you can always in any situation pick the same type of finish you want, camera relative is always a gamble [emoji23]




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                    • Luke Skywalker
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 917

                      #25
                      Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                      I don’t understand why Payton couldn’t block Trae’s layup? Yeah, he has 44 Block Rating, but 44 isn’t 0… what rating does a player have to be to make blocks for real? Lol

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #26
                        Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                        Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
                        I don’t understand why Payton couldn’t block Trae’s layup? Yeah, he has 44 Block Rating, but 44 isn’t 0… what rating does a player have to be to make blocks for real? Lol
                        Exactly [emoji23].... From my experience I feel this type of block is on the rare side. Driving to the rim opens you up to chase down. But I guess the answer for me is I either change the layup type or change the launch. All changing the timing. Changing something in the game doesn't make sense. That's how we get David West splashing 3'sumyLoE.gif
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                        • PopcornJones77
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                          • Aug 2015
                          • 355

                          #27
                          Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                          Originally posted by alabamarob
                          I am cool with higher rated shot blockers, blocking a lot of shots. Deters people from spamming the paint just like real life. However, the chase down blocks should be toned down. People without this badge or high shot block ratings should not be pulling off some of these blocks.

                          Good ole Payton Pritchard with the chase down block.

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                          Do you see this issue on lower levels of difficulty?

                          Tbh, whenever I see one of your videos or tweets about a gameplay issue, I wonder whether the issue is created by the Hall of Fame difficulty level that you prefer to play on (HoF sometimes creates some real BS outcomes) or intrinsic to the game regardless of difficulty level. I’m sure some of the things you find are intrinsic to the game.


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                          • alabamarob
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3348

                            #28
                            Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                            Originally posted by PopcornJones77
                            Do you see this issue on lower levels of difficulty?

                            Tbh, whenever I see one of your videos or tweets about a gameplay issue, I wonder whether the issue is created by the Hall of Fame difficulty level that you prefer to play on (HoF sometimes creates some real BS outcomes) or intrinsic to the game regardless of difficulty level. I’m sure some of the things you find are intrinsic to the game.


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                            What up man. Good to see you on the boards. In my opinion HOF is where you can best disect and understand the game. There are some users as good as the HOF computer. So if ratings don't matter and a very good user can pull off chasedown blocks with Pritchard its a problem. In order for something unrealistic to happen you need either a pre determined animation or a disregard of ratings.

                            Things like reaction time wouldn't effect a chasedown block by Pritchard
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                            • loso_34
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1352

                              #29
                              Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                              Originally posted by tru11
                              Yeah man.

                              I wish we would just stop calling for stuff to be fixed when in most cases its more just questionable user/cpu in put/decision making.

                              Both embiid and trae had plenty of different options to choose from,all who would/could have a variety of different outcomes at that.

                              Had embiid speed up his finish or kicked it to the corner for an open 3 then their would be nothing to talk about.

                              Had trae done a reverse lay up, 2 handed dunk, pumpfake standing lay up or maybe a hop step jumper then their might be something else to argue about.

                              I always recommend using absolute controls for the right analog as you can always in any situation pick the same type of finish you want, camera relative is always a gamble [emoji23]




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                              Why would trae have to worry about Pritchard as if he’s a shot blocker? It’s not basketball when the pritchards of the world have guards looking over their shoulder.

                              It’s like Fred van vleet altering your shot.

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                              • alabamarob
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3348

                                #30
                                Re: Time to tone down chase down blocks and shot blocking? Or just chase down blocks?

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                Exactly [emoji23].... From my experience I feel this type of block is on the rare side. Driving to the rim opens you up to chase down. But I guess the answer for me is I either change the layup type or change the launch. All changing the timing. Changing something in the game doesn't make sense. That's how we get David West splashing 3's[ATTACH]195738[/ATTACH]
                                Ha. Well i think Nate Robinson won a dunk contest for jumping over a man. The athletic abilities of Pritchard and Nate are “slightly” different.
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