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  • plp2874
    Rookie
    • Feb 2019
    • 74

    #46
    Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

    Recently did some more testing (on pc) and tentative findings seem to suggest putting defensive aware/consistency at 0 and offence aware/consistency is resulting in very high foul numbers. However, the fouls are resulting in lots of and-1s (like, way too many lmao).
    Will keep testing and post results...

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    • RedmanR
      MVP
      • Aug 2003
      • 2120

      #47
      Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

      Originally posted by plp2874
      Recently did some more testing (on pc) and tentative findings seem to suggest putting defensive aware/consistency at 0 and offence aware/consistency is resulting in very high foul numbers. However, the fouls are resulting in lots of and-1s (like, way too many lmao).
      Will keep testing and post results...

      Sent from my SM-G975F using Operation Sports mobile app
      GOOD [emoji41][emoji1360]

      Is this with foul, hard foul tendencies and the shooting foul slider maxed [emoji848]

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      Last edited by RedmanR; 03-13-2022, 09:57 PM.
      Where they DO that? ? ?

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      • plp2874
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        • Feb 2019
        • 74

        #48
        Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

        Originally posted by RedmanR
        GOOD [emoji41][emoji1360]

        Is this with foul, hard foul tendencies and the shooting foul slider maxed [emoji848]

        Sent from my [emoji1629] using Tapatalk
        Yes sorry forgot to mention, I'm using custom roster with foul tendency +35, Hfoul +20 and Dfoul +50or60 I forgot. The foul sliders are also all the way jacked to 100. But recently played a game heat v pacers I shot 35ft as Miami and Indiana shot mid20s

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        • plp2874
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          • Feb 2019
          • 74

          #49
          Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

          Originally posted by plp2874
          Yes sorry forgot to mention, I'm using custom roster with foul tendency +35, Hfoul +20 and Dfoul +50or60 I forgot. The foul sliders are also all the way jacked to 100. But recently played a game heat v pacers I shot 35ft as Miami and Indiana shot mid20s

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          so i've been playing around more, its incredibly frustrating because the user team just will. not. foul. the cpu fouling is super inconsistent too, some quarters i'll have 14FTA and sometimes ill have 3FTA. it means i'll usually get between 20-30FTA a game which is great, but still im only putting the cpu on the line maybe 10-15 times a game. this is also with global editing foul tendency to 100 and draw foul attribute to 99 for everyone. its also extremely rare for 1 player to get to the line more than 5 times, usually the FTA are super spread out, almost feels like programming lmao

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          • plp2874
            Rookie
            • Feb 2019
            • 74

            #50
            Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

            Originally posted by plp2874
            so i've been playing around more, its incredibly frustrating because the user team just will. not. foul. the cpu fouling is super inconsistent too, some quarters i'll have 14FTA and sometimes ill have 3FTA. it means i'll usually get between 20-30FTA a game which is great, but still im only putting the cpu on the line maybe 10-15 times a game. this is also with global editing foul tendency to 100 and draw foul attribute to 99 for everyone. its also extremely rare for 1 player to get to the line more than 5 times, usually the FTA are super spread out, almost feels like programming lmao
            some examples:

            the heat game was 8min quarter, slower game speed (48 i think) and the hawks and clippers game 12 minutes at GS70 (per shady sliders)
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            • Real2KInsider
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 4647

              #51
              Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

              Originally posted by plp2874
              almost feels like programming lmao
              That's because it is. ACE will change up a team's defensive pressure each break.
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              • dwayne12345
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                • Dec 2010
                • 1407

                #52
                Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                Originally posted by plp2874
                so i've been playing around more, its incredibly frustrating because the user team just will. not. foul. the cpu fouling is super inconsistent too, some quarters i'll have 14FTA and sometimes ill have 3FTA. it means i'll usually get between 20-30FTA a game which is great, but still im only putting the cpu on the line maybe 10-15 times a game. this is also with global editing foul tendency to 100 and draw foul attribute to 99 for everyone. its also extremely rare for 1 player to get to the line more than 5 times, usually the FTA are super spread out, almost feels like programming lmao

                Messing around with this too. Have you tried bumping up steal tendency as well (in-game sliders and individual tends)?


                Thinking of other tendencies that may help is attempt block tendency for individuals and of course turning all foul types up to 100. Not sure if all that solves because I haven't tried it but it's what I will try when I have time

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                • plp2874
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 74

                  #53
                  Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                  Originally posted by dwayne12345
                  Messing around with this too. Have you tried bumping up steal tendency as well (in-game sliders and individual tends)?


                  Thinking of other tendencies that may help is attempt block tendency for individuals and of course turning all foul types up to 100. Not sure if all that solves because I haven't tried it but it's what I will try when I have time
                  Yeh I've got foul sliders all bumped to 100, go for on ball steals is up but forgot how much, all the stuff is at 100 in the actual SLIDERS that I use, in the roster I did bump attempt block for 1 game but didn't see much difference , if any, tho it an admittedly small sample size lol. Also don't really wanna do it cos I don't want mad my league stats, I'm trying to find a balance. I think the main thing I've found is you have to almost "attempt" to get fouled, ie. Driving layups drive INTO the defender if that makes sense. Shoot and aim towards the defender

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                  • m29a
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 368

                    #54
                    Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                    Lack of free throws and help defense is the result of having such a high make % for open 3s.

                    IF that is ever dialed down to more reasonable levels, then the aggressive help defensive schemes can start. But you cannot treat 2K ball like the real-life games, because in those, open 3s can still miss a fair amount of time which drastically changes things.

                    I don't know how anyone can watch the real games and NOT be frustrated at 2K ball and what it has devolved into. I'm not surprised, I'm disappointed.

                    Edit: That said, major improvements can be made without touching open 3 shot make %. The AI needs to help more off of mediocre/poor offensive players. Sure, you're going to give up some open shots, but that is better than leaving a clear lane every time for an easy dunk or layup.
                    Last edited by m29a; 03-24-2022, 02:32 PM.

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                    • Real2KInsider
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4647

                      #55
                      Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                      Originally posted by m29a
                      Lack of free throws and help defense is the result of having such a high make % for open 3s.

                      The NBA has a high make% for open 3s.

                      Miami Heat
                      6+ Feet (Wide Open): 40% (6th)
                      4-6 Feet (Open): 37% (1st)
                      2-4 Feet (Tight): 33% (2nd)
                      0-2 Feet (Very Tight): 48% (1st) - (Context on that mark: 10-21 FG / 0.3 atts per game - only 5 teams have hit 10 shots; 23 have hit less than 5. Five teams have hit 0.)

                      Open threes are the product & payoff of ball movement and beating the help.
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                      • AIRJ23
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2021
                        • 2789

                        #56
                        Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                        Isn’t the league average for wide open threes in the 30’s?

                        In the game it’s like 90% or more.

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                        • Real2KInsider
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4647

                          #57
                          Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                          Originally posted by AIRJ23
                          Isn’t the league average for wide open threes in the 30’s?
                          The median team is 38%.



                          In the game it’s like 90% or more.
                          Maybe for the user w/ perfect timing but definitely not for the CPU.
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                          • jk31
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                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2654

                            #58
                            Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                            Originally posted by Real2KInsider

                            user vs user is barely playable because of the way too easy 3s.in our league we play on superstar (we also tested hall of fame) and the good teams will shoot 50+ % oder even 60+ % on average in the season....bad teams though still shoot way below 30 % because they are not good at timing...its really annoying.


                            our best team shoots so good, it would be more efficient to allow wide open layups every defense than allow them to shoot any three. 100 % layup brings 2 points per shot attempt. shooting a three and making it with 69 % means scoring 2.07 points per shot attempt.

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                            • Sundown2600
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 1362

                              #59
                              Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                              I'm a new player on PC current gen. Can't even remember the last time I played a 2k game I'm guessing on PS2. As an offline player this situation just destroys immersion for me. I've tried every suggestion in the thread short of player edits which I just don't have time to waste on. Nothing helps and it's very frustrating. Unfortunately I've already sunk close to 100 hrs trying to balance everything and it's too late for a refund.

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                              • plp2874
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2019
                                • 74

                                #60
                                Re: Has anyone found a solution for lack of free throws?

                                hey guys, just checking in on progress with this issue? i've been testing a little but wanted to see if anyone else was seeing any progress? I seem to have gotten the user fta to a respectable number (just had 2 games with 2 diff. teams with 38 and 31 fta) but still struggling to get the cpu to get fouled. has anyone found a way to get the cpu at the foul line a bit more?

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