Everyone talks about offense, but defense is quite needed in 2k25 as well!

[LakeshowNation]

Re: Everyone talks about offense, but defense is quite needed in 2k25 as well!

I'll be more specific.

The issue I encounter is under the following conditions;

- SGA with Trae Young matched up against him
- Bring ball up past half court
- Call for isolation

These conditions yield 8-10 points without any resistance at all. 100% field goal shooting. Then I might see a double team, but it's a bit random and it doesn't happen consistently. It happens on one off possessions for maybe 3-4 instances.

But I can consistently have 30 point quarters with left stick dribble moves to get past Trae and then a turbo boost to the basket for a dunk/layup.

I managed to do this for an entire game with SGA for 118 points.

Interestingly, SGA eventually fouled out so I started the same thing with Cason Wallace (which is who Trae was guarding). After 8 points, I started seeing double teams on the catch. Definitely more aggressive than what I was seeing with SGA.

I've never captured footage and posted it here. I don't know if I'll go to that extent - if you guys don't believe me, I'll leave it at that. I am being as specific as possible here. That's as much as I think I'll do on this..

But to me, there is definitely a fundamental issue here with;

- Double teaming not happening consistently
- Help D being very late/slow (yes, I saw your suggestion Rob, thanks)
- AI not assigning optimal player matchup for star players

I'm not trying to be negative. I am hoping to be constructive. Hopefully it is considered as such.

I actually just tried this after I read this. Gotta say I agree! If I don't call iso, on HOF standard, I can score at a similar rate. Calling iso makes it even worse....

It's almost as if fatigue doesn't even matter as well. I have it set to 55, and even when the gatorade logo appears, still as easy to score.

Raising the help d does reduce it, but there's something fundamentally wrong with the basic defensive AI in this game.

Trae shouldn't be guarding SGA, and even when I change the matchup for the CPU (which is like playing chess against myself), it keeps randomly changing back, or even assigning Capella to SGA, even with ACE off!!

But I guess as long as park is good.....lol.

I really hope they patch this soon, coz otherwise, the rest of the game is pretty much great!

Just needs matchups fixed, which I'm sure 2k has done before. And aggressive double teams if you're cooking the AI

[The 24th Letter]

Everyone talks about offense, but defense is quite needed in 2k25 as well!

I'll be more specific.

The issue I encounter is under the following conditions;

- SGA with Trae Young matched up against him
- Bring ball up past half court
- Call for isolation

These conditions yield 8-10 points without any resistance at all. 100% field goal shooting. Then I might see a double team, but it's a bit random and it doesn't happen consistently. It happens on one off possessions for maybe 3-4 instances.

But I can consistently have 30 point quarters with left stick dribble moves to get past Trae and then a turbo boost to the basket for a dunk/layup.

I managed to do this for an entire game with SGA for 118 points.

Interestingly, SGA eventually fouled out so I started the same thing with Cason Wallace (which is who Trae was guarding). After 8 points, I started seeing double teams on the catch. Definitely more aggressive than what I was seeing with SGA.

I've never captured footage and posted it here. I don't know if I'll go to that extent - if you guys don't believe me, I'll leave it at that. I am being as specific as possible here. That's as much as I think I'll do on this..

But to me, there is definitely a fundamental issue here with;

- Double teaming not happening consistently
- Help D being very late/slow (yes, I saw your suggestion Rob, thanks)
- AI not assigning optimal player matchup for star players

I'm not trying to be negative. I am hoping to be constructive. Hopefully it is considered as such.

Wasn’t so much about being positive or me not believing you.

but fair enough…. thanks for clarifying and footage or not, it’s good info- was just a suggestion if you’re going all in on a 48 minute test tbh…I personally don’t have the patience for it so that’s always my outlook..

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[alabamarob]

Re: Everyone talks about offense, but defense is quite needed in 2k25 as well!

On HOF default, Defense is very good if you are using all 5 defenders, and paying attention to everything around the court.

However, if you play 100% on ball defense, then you are going to get smoked. It’s not just that the cpu ballhandlers know how to break you down off the dribble, and shoot. It’s also because you are going to get killed on off ball screens and basket cuts.

Additionally, you have to change your defensive settings to slow the computer down. Letting ACE handle it will get you smoked. Outside of the cpu defenders not going for deflections or steals when passes are thrown directly in their face, I am cool with playing defense this way.

I think being forced to used all 5 defenders, and not just be 100 percent on ball is the more fun and puts more pressure in your lineup choices. You used to could play weak defenders and be good with the sticks to make them better than they are in real life. This year if you have a weak defender, there is not hiding them.

All they need to do is turn down shooting accuracy, on jumpers and I will be fine with the defense.