3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

[jeebs9]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

We know 2K always has the 2-3 players they favor or dislike no matter what. In Brown’s case, do you think he is getting the benefit of the higher rating due to being on an elite team or is it simply lack of data crunching?

I think it's because he's on the better team.

Don't forget they hate some players too [emoji1787]

[Real2KInsider]

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We know 2K always has the 2-3 players they favor or dislike no matter what. In Brown’s case, do you think he is getting the benefit of the higher rating due to being on an elite team or is it simply lack of data crunching?

It's the Finals MVP boost. If you recall they pumped his rating up back in June.

I have Brown at an 89 FWIW. He wasn't even All-NBA in a year where 6 guys missed it due to games played.

Jaylen Brown 2025 (18 games, 651 minutes)
93 OVERALL
H/W: 6'6" / 223
Age: 27
Pos: SF/SG
Arch: 2-Way Mid-Range Slasher

OFFENSE
94 Driving Layup: 50-94 FG (53 FG%, 32 AST% / 5.2 FGA/36) (2024: 58 / 45 / 6.1)
96 Driving Dunk: 11-12 FG (92 FG%, 64 AST%, 0.7 FGA/36) (2024: 81 / 68 / 1.4)
40 Standing Dunk
69 Post Fade: 1.5 Fade/36
67 Post Hook: 0.4 Hook/36
80 Post Control: 2.5 Post Touch/36
93 Draw Foul: 35.0 FTR% (6.9 FTA/36 to 19.7 FGA/36) (Career highs)
93 Close Shot: 58-132 FG (44 FG%, 29 AST%, 7.3 FGA/36) (2024: 50 / 36 / 6.9)
90 Mid-Range: 9-24 FG (38 FG%, 44 AST%, 1.3 FGA/36) (2024: 40 / 46 / 1.4)
81 3pt Shot: 47-141 (33 FG%, 72 AST%, 7.8 FGA/36) 2024: 35 / 63 / 6.3)
78 Free Throw: 96-125 (77 FT%) (2024: 70%)
86 Ball Handle: 5.0 PNR + 3.5 ISO/36 (2024: 3.8 + 2.5)
68 Pass Vision: 20 AST% (Career high)
84 Pass IQ (this has always been high for some reason)
78 Pass Acc: 1.8 A/T
46 Offensive Rebound: 4.6 ORB% (Career high)
80 Shot IQ: 55 TS% / 31 USG%
95 Hands: 10 TO% / 31 USG%

Brown is doing more on-ball than he previously used to. His efficiency has waned with it.

DEFENSE
64 Defensive Rebound: 14.5 DRB%
70 Interior Defense
89 Perimeter Defense
50 Block: 1.0 BLK%
50 Steal: 1.5 STL%

ATHLETICISM
79 Speed
76 Spd w/ Ball
88 Agility
84 Vertical
69 Strength
95 Stamina
95 Hustle
82 Durability

MENTAL
98 Offensive Consistency: 1.0 OBPM (2024: 0.9)
85 Defensive Consistency: -1.4 DBPM (2024: -0.1) (Career low)
87 Pass Perception (mans has never been top 20 in steal rate...)
86 Help Defense
95 Intangibles

Not as many problems with the ratings, it's badges that drive OVR this year.

INSIDE SCORING
GOLD: Posterizer, Physical Finisher
SILVER: Float Game, Aerial Wizard, Layup Mixmaster

Brown has one Alley Oop this year. He had 9 last year (0.1/36).

OUTSIDE SCORING
GOLD: Set Shot Specialist, Shifty Shooter
SILVER: Deadeye, Slippery Off-Ball

Seems a touch high for a 33% 3pt shooter? (34% over last 3 years)

PLAYMAKING
BRONZE: Bail Out

DEFENSE
GOLD: Pogo Stick
SILVER: Off-Ball Pest, On-Ball Menace, High-Flying Denier
BRONZE: Post Lockdown, Challenger, Pick Dodger, Glove, Interceptor

That series against a hobbled Luka man

ATHLETICISM
SILVER: Immovable Enforcer
BRONZE: Rebound Chaser

[AIRJ23]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

It's more the sheer amount of posts you've dedicated to the subject in the last few years. I can't think of any other reason his rating is such an obsession for you.

You’re wondering why the same guy who gets his son drafted/forced into his own team way before the poor kid is ready, gets his podcast buddy who coached only little league girls a job as a coach on the most infamous NBA team, and is hardcoded into a 95-96 OVR despite stretches that have him at -111 plus/minus, losing nearly every game during said stretch, missing 20 straight threes, and putting up mid-at-best stats during said stretch, can be an obsession to a basketball fan?

How dareth I besmirch thy King, I guess.

[jeebs9]

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You know what I will never really understand. It's bench players dropping so low they are unusable. The way we rate them and drop them off the face of the earth. Then they get called off the bench and become irrelevant again. Certain players shouldn't drop because they are not getting playing time.

An example I looking at is a Cole Anthony. Cole didn't become bad over night. He came back from injury and been out of the rotation. Now Franz is hurt. But he's playing tonight. And playing just like he normal has.

[sirdez]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

Can they make Jokic 100?

[Real2KInsider]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

An example I looking at is a Cole Anthony. Cole didn't become bad over night. He came back from injury and been out of the rotation. Now Franz is hurt. But he's playing tonight. And playing just like he normal has.

Cole is playing 10 MPG. He's barely in the rotation this year (other players have just been better / his skillset isn't as needed).

OVR and Player Value is mostly about who is getting PT / Touches and how good they are at it.

[jeebs9]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

Cole is playing 10 MPG. He's barely in the rotation this year (other players have just been better / his skillset isn't as needed).



OVR and Player Value is mostly about who is getting PT / Touches and how good they are at it.

But we drop his ratings and remove badges. So so the work his becomes useless until he's called back into rotation. In the mean while we have to wait a month before a change is made. So even playing with Magic right now is a waiting game. Sorry guys, it's just my yearly rant on the way things work. Don't mind me [emoji23]

[Real2KInsider]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

But we drop his ratings and remove badges. So so the work his becomes useless until he's called back into rotation. In the mean while we have to wait a month before a change is made. So even playing with Magic right now is a waiting game. Sorry guys, it's just my yearly rant on the way things work. Don't mind me [emoji23]

Why though. He's maybe the 10th best player on the Magic. It's a far cry from when they were a 20-win team.

He got passed by Suggs and Black.

(Also he still has 13 badges, 4th most on team)

[Real2KInsider]

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CHARLOTTE HORNETS (1-6 since last update)
82 (+1) Brandon Miller
78 (+1) Cody Martin
75 (+4) Moussa Diabate (Badge Update)
73 (+1) Vasilije Micic
73 (+2) Tidjane Salaun

Again note how a poor team performance has zero impact on OVRs, players only be going up once they get minutes.

Moussa Diabate
TOTAL: 3 (+3)
GOLD: Boxout Beast, Pogo Stick, Rebound Chaser

Way too extreme for a player w/ less than 1,000 career minutes under his belt. He's a Two-Way player, not Dennis Rodman.

Last two weeks (7 GP, 4 GS): 1.7 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 28 MPG (31 FG%, 29 FT%)

On the Year: 19.1 ORB% (Elite) but only 24 DRB% (Good but not Elite)
I know this might be difficult for 2K to understand given the yearly issues this game has but DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING is a bit more indicative of a player's actual rebounding ability since ORB rates are going to fluctuate based on an a player's role / proximity to the rim.

[Real2KInsider]

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UTAH JAZZ (1-6 since last update)
85 (+1) John Collins
82 (+1) Walker Kessler
80 (+1) Collin Sexton
75 (+3) Brice Sensabaugh
71 (+1) Johnny Juzang
70 (+3) Micah Potter

Sensabaugh got a rotation spot back with Jordan Clarkson sidelined.
L2W: 12.0 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 22 MPG (44 FG%, 45 3PT%)

Potter made a GS and had 9 pts (3-5 3PT) and 16 rebounds in 32 mins.

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SACRAMENTO KINGS (2-5 since last update)
89 (-1) De’Aron Fox
87 (-1) Demar Derozan
82 (+2) Malik Monk
78 (-2) Keegan Murray
75 (-2) Kevin Huerter
72 (+4) Isaac Jones

Monk took over as the starting SG.
L2W: 21.2 PPG, 7.8 APG, 33.7 MPG (51 FG%, 49 3PT%)

Huerter completely bottomed out and lost the starting spot (though he has been playing better recently)
L2W: 4.7 PPG, 19.7 MPG (29 FG%, 21 3PT%)

Murray has also been struggling and is down to 29 3PT% on the season.
L2W: 11.0 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 37.4 MPG (39 FG%, 26 3PT%)

Jones has been in the rotation with Trey Lyles injured
L2W: 9.0 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 17.7 MPG (71 FG%)

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NEW YORK KNICKS (4-2 since last update)
92 (+1) Karl Anthony Towns
83 (+1) Josh Hart
79 (+1) Miles McBride

No notes, Knicks have been super consistent this year. Precious Achiuwa just returned which knocked Jericho Sims out of the rotation.

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LOS ANGELES LAKERS (2-6 since last update)
LeBron James - 95 OVR (-1)
D’Angelo Russell - 79 OVR (+1)

Can’t wait to see 2K using 2K LeBron logic bump LeBron to a 98 OVR after his recent stretch lol.

LeBron still at a 95 is hilarious.
Rich Paul must be making his infamous threat calls to 2K.

LeBron went down and this guy stayed yapping

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ORLANDO MAGIC (7-1 since last update)
89 (+1) Franz Wagner
79 (+1) Kentavious Caldwell Pope
79 (+1) Goga Bitadze
79 (+1) Mo Wagner
74 (+1) Tristan da Silva
73 (-1) Cole Anthony

They will be tested w/ Franz set to miss the next two months. This likely costs him the All-Star berth he was trending towards, as Games Played will be an issue.

Tristan da Silva started at SF. Jett Howard will be getting his first major opportunity.

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DALLAS MAVERICKS (6-1 since last update)
80 (+1) PJ Washington - 80 OVR (+1)
80 (+3) Naji Marshall - 80 OVR (+3)
79 (-1) Klay Thompson - 79 OVR (-1)
78 (+4) Quentin Grimes - 78 OVR (+4)
76 (+2) Spencer Dinwiddie - 76 OVR (+2)

Marshall, Grimes, and Dinwiddie collectively filled in for Luka and Klay over the last two weeks, which made their W/L record all the more impressive.

Klay just isn't an impact player anymore, he's only cracked 20 points 3x this year.

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BROOKLYN NETS (4-4 since last update)
83 (+1) Dennis Schroder
83 (+1) Cam Johnson
75 (+1) Noah Clowney
75 (+1) Trendon Watford
74 (+5) Tyrese Martin (Badge Update)
74 (+2) Shake Milton

The Brooklyn Overachievers continue to do their best to raise their trade value.

Martin had an outlier 30-point (10-13 FG, 8-10 3PT) game that will probably stand as the best night of his career.

Tyrese Martin
TOTAL: 2 (+2)
SILVER: Set Shot Specialist, Slippery Off-Ball

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DENVER NUGGETS (3-3 since last update)
80 (+2) Russell Westbrook

Not super clear to me why Westbrook went up besides some outlier 3pt shooting.
L2W: 13.8 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.5 SPG, 23.9 MPG (44 FG%, 41 3PT%, 65 FT%)

[jeebs9]

Re: 3rd Official NBA 2K25 Player Ratings Update - 12.5.24

I don't think I realized Naji Marshall broke into the 80 mark. Good for him!! I'm really happy he left the pelican. They were back logged at that position

[Real2KInsider]

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INDIANA PACERS (3-5 since last update)
83 (-1) Myles Turner
80 (+1) TJ McConnell
76 (-1) Jarace Walker
74 (+2) Quenton Jackson
69 (+1) Enrique Freeman

25 games in, Haliburton just can't get going, which significantly limits the Pacers' ceiling.

NEW ORLEANS PELICANS (0-6 since last update)
86 (-1) Brandon Ingram
84 (-2) Dejounte Murray
79 (+2) Yves Missi
76 (-1) Jordan Hawkins (Missing from OP)
75 (+1) Javonte Green
75 (+2) Elfrid Payton (Waived by team)
72 (-1) Trey Jemison (Missing from OP)

Murray since returning (4 gms): 13.0 PPG, 5.8 APG, 31.5 MPG (27 FG%, 24 3PT%)

Missi is one of few Pelicans performing well above expectations. He leads all rookies in RPG, BPG, and Win Shares
L2W: 15.4 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 1.8 BPG, 29.3 MPG (64 FG%)

It should say something about the state of the Pelicans that Elfrid Payton was one of the bright spots on a 5-20 team and yet he was waived for financial reasons.

DETROIT PISTONS (2-6 since last update)
82 (+1) Jaden Ivey
80 (+2) Malik Beasley
77 (-1) Ausar Thompson
76 (-1) Tim Hardaway Jr
76 (+2) Marcus Sasser
75 (+3) Wendell Moore Jr

Basically all the guards went up because Cade missed four games.

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TORONTO RAPTORS (4-3 since last update)
86 (+1) Scottie Barnes
86 (+2) RJ Barrett
84 (+2) Jakob Poeltl
81 (-1) Gradey Dick
76 (+1) Jonathan Mogbo
75 (-1) Davion Mitchell
74 (+2) Jamison Battle
73 (+3) Ja’Kobe Walter

Barrett has offensive freedom, albeit on a lottery team.
4.5 years w/ NYK: 12.9 PER, 52 TS%, 13 AST%, 26 USG%
1.5 years w/ TOR: 17.6 PER, 59 TS%, 23 AST%, 27 USG%

L2W: 25.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 5.6 APG (54 FG%, 39 3PT%, 70 FT%)

Battle had a career-high 24 pts (9-11 FG, 6-8 3PT) vs the Pelicans
Walter started 4 games w/ Gradey Dick sidelined: 8.5 PPG, 21.8 MPG (only 40 FG%, 21 3PT%)

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HOUSTON ROCKETS (4-2 since last update)
83 (+1) Fred VanVleet
83 (-1) Jalen Green
82 (+1) Amen Thompson
81 (+1) Jabari Smith Jr
80 (+1) Dillon Brooks

Rockets keep winning games, behind the #2 defense in the NBA.

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SAN ANTONIO SPURS (4-2 since last update)
92 (+1) Victor Wembanyama
82 (+1) Devin Vassell
80 (+1) Harrison Barnes
79 (+4) Stephon Castle (Second Badge Update)
78 (NC) Jeremy Sochan (Badge Update)
77 (+2) Julian Champagnie (Badge Update)
76 (+1) Sandro Mumukelashvili
76 (+3) Charles Bassey (Badge Update)
76 (-2) Tre Jones
76 (-2) Malaki Branham

Spurs are the flavor of the update.

Stephon Castle
TOTAL: 10 (+2)
SILVER: Layup Mixmaster (+1), Pick Dodger, Strong Handle
BRONZE: Bail Out (ADD), Break Starter, Challenger, Float Game, Off-Ball Pest, Physical Finisher (ADD), Versatile Visionary

Jeremy Sochan
TOTAL: 8 (+2)
SILVER: Physical Finisher (+1), Pogo Stick, Strong Handle
BRONZE: Challenger, Float Game (ADD), High-Flying Denier, Layup Mixmaster (ADD), Off-Ball Pest

Julian Champagnie
TOTAL: 3 (+3)
BRONZE: Off-Ball Pest, Set Shot Specialist, Slippery Off-Ball

Charles Bassey
TOTAL: 7 (+7)
SILVER: Boxout Beast, Pogo Stick, Rebound Chaser
BRONZE: Aerial Wizard, Brick Wall, Paint Prodigy, Physical Finisher

Last Two Weeks
Wemby: 25.6 PPG, 10.2 RPG, 6.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 2.6 BPG, 35 MPG (49 FG%, 33 3PT%)
Castle: 15.7 PPG, 4.2 APG, 32 MPG (39 FG%, 29 3PT%)
Champagnie: 14.0 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 1.5 SPG, 32 MPG (41 FG%, 31 3PT%)
Bassey (4 GP): 3.8 PPG, 1.5 BPG, 10 MPG (47 FG%)

The Bassey upgrade is strange because he ain’t really in the rotation like that.

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PHOENIX SUNS (3-1 since last update)
80 (+1) Tyus Jones
74 (+2) Oso Ighodaro

Ighodaro has been in the rotation. Hashtag Analysis.
L2W: 5.0 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 20 MPG (56 FG%)

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OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER (4-1 since last update)
88 (+1) Jalen Williams
85 (+4) Isaiah Hartenstein (Badge Update
80 (-1) Luguentz Dort
78 (-1) Aaron Wiggins
76 (+1) Cason Wallace
76 (+2) Kenrich Williams
74 (+2) Ajay Mitchell (Second Badge Update)

Hartenstein came back for this update, keeping OKC afloat w/o Chet. At a glance 85 might be a touch high for my tastes but I’ll dive into that at a later date.
L2W: 13.4 PPG, 12.0 RPG, 4.4 APG, 1.0 BPG, 30 MPG (59 FG%)

Isaiah Hartenstein
TOTAL: 11 (+4)
GOLD: Boxout Beast, Brick Wall, Paint Prodigy, Rebound Chaser, Rise Up
SILVER: Physical Finisher, Pogo Stick
BRONZE: Aerial Wizard, Hook Specialist, Post Lockdown, Post Powerhouse

Ajay Mitchell
TOTAL: 5 (+3)
BRONZE: Break Starter (ADD), Float Game, Layup Mixmaster, Set Shot Specialist (ADD), Unpluckable (ADD)

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MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES (3-4 since last update)
93 (-1) Anthony Edwards
81 (-2) Naz Reid
80 (+1) Mike Conley Jr
76 (-2) Donte Divincenzo
74 (+2) Rob Dilllingham

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PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS (2-5 since last update)
82 (+1) DeAndre Ayton
81 (+1) Anfernee Simons
80 (+2) Deni Avdija
78 (+1) Donovan Clingan
77 (+1) Toumani Camara
77 (+1) Dalano Banton

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GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS (1-5 since last update)
83 (+2) Andrew Wiggins - 83 OVR (+2)
81 (-1) Buddy Hield - 81 OVR (-1)
77 (-1) Moses Moody - 77 OVR (-1)
76 (-1) Lindy Waters III - 76 OVR (-1)
76 (-2) Brandin Podziemski - 76 OVR (-2)

Wiggins had some hot 3pt shooting
L2W: 19.2 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 2.8 APG, 1.2 SPG, 32 MPG (43 FG%, 45 3PT%, 86 FT%)

For all their depth, Golden State just hasn't been able to find a starting backcourt that they like.

Lindy Waters received a shot at the starting SG position and didn't excel:
L2W (5 GP, 4 GS): 6.2 PPG, 21.2 MPG (31 FG%, 27 3PT%)

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WASHINGTON WIZARDS (0-6 since last update)
82 (-1) Jordan Poole
82 (+2) Malcolm Brogdon
80 (-1) Kyle Kuzma
79 (-1) Bilal Coulibaly
79 (+2) Alex Sarr (OP listed as +1)
76 (-1) Corey Kispert
75 (+1) Kyshawn George

Brogdon has been starting caliber, which is more than you can say for most Wizards.

Coulibaly has been playing hurt and that has greatly reduced his efficiency (to the point where there's no real benefit to playing him).
L2W: 7.3 PPG, 35.5 MPG (26 FG%, 19 3PT%)

Sarr's efficiency has been sort of coming around.
L2W: 12.2 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 29.4 MPG (43 FG%, 33 3PT%)