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  • RyanXUGSW
    Rookie
    • Jun 2015
    • 6

    #856
    Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

    Originally posted by QNo
    Welcome mate. I would start CP3/Dr J/KD/LBJ/Hakeem, Dr J is probably your best player and KD's shooting complements him well. That would make the default bench 5 I would use Oscar/Vince/PP/Kemp/Robinson. Unless you're a big fan of Vince I would probably sell him as Sapph Nique is very similar and the MT can be used elsewhere. Seems to me that your backup 5 is your weak spot, Ruby Mutombo is a cheap but great and superior C you could use. I actually start him over Hakeem.

    My personal take on the PF position is that you either want a guy who's a great (help) defender and rebounder, or a stretch 4 who spaces out your offense. So I stopped using guys like Ruby Kemp after starting Ruby Blake for a while, I find that I have more success with either Emerald AD or a stretch 4.

    As to what to do with the bulk of your MT - I would probably go for one of the gold MJs. Most people here like the 89/91/93 best, you should be able to find a fully badged out version for a decent price. The younger MJs are better with the ball in hand but worse off-ball, e.g. I use my 89 MJ as the primary ballhandler with Oscar being the secondary ballhandler, and Melo being in there mostly for his shooting. I would put KD next to MJ so you have an outstanding shooter on the court, something I find necessary when running a 3-2 type offense.

    Chris Paul's good shooting and defensive abilities should fit in well, but if you find that he's being bullied by big PGs and non-PGs at the 1 too much it might be easier to switch to Onyx Oscar, Onyx Kidd, or Ruby Payton. I wouldn't really put gold Magic next to young MJ because that would leave you with two of your 3 backcourt players being below average shooters.

    Alternatives to spending your MT on MJ:
    - Onyx LeBron, should be a decent choice as well
    - Ruby Admiral, probably better than Sapph Hakeem

    I wouldn't go with the Admiral though since it seems to me that MJ + Hakeem, Dr + Mutombo is better than Dr J + Admiral, Nique + Hakeem. As to Onyx LeBron, I haven't tried him but heard great things. That being said I'm not sure having him at the 4 will impact your game the same way having MJ at the 2 will.

    I can't really think of any other card worth going for.
    Hey thank you for the feedback. In regards to your 1st suggestion, I have a difficult time finding Dominique's shot, and I'm very adept at using Vince's. I also struggle with Dr. J's shot, so I prefer to bring him off the bench as an athlete in my 2nd unit. On the idea of the new power forward, I combined both your ideas and got onyx Kevin Garnett for 170k, which was a snipe on xbox. I also purchased Onyx Mitch Richmond for 70k and now my lineup is:

    Onyx CP3
    Onyx Vince
    Onyx Pierce
    Onyx Garnett
    Sapphire Hakeem

    Bench
    Sapphire Oscar Robertson
    Onyx Mitch
    Diamond KD
    Gold Lebron
    Sapphire Admiral
    Sapphire Bill Russell
    Sapphire Julius
    Ruby Dirk (All time scorers)

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    • PandaPower2k
      Rookie
      • May 2015
      • 154

      #857
      Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

      Imo, Onyx Havlicek is a better player than Onyx Pierce (94 overall), and much cheaper too.

      I don't think Onyx Lebron is worth buying, Gold one is just as good... If not better with 34 gold badges and higher standing 3pt.

      Also, I think that Sapphire Yao is worth getting. He's too good, I'd probably start him Center over Hakeem.

      Vince is great on offense, but his defense is pretty bad. I'd replace him with Ruby Dunker Drexler or a badged up Gold Jordan, as QNo suggested as well.
      Steam(EU): PandaPower

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      • PandaPower2k
        Rookie
        • May 2015
        • 154

        #858
        Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

        I am pretty happy and comfortable with my line up, but I'm thinking of buying Onyx Dr J, what do you think? I have around 150k mt to play with...

        Here's my line up:

        Sapphire Big O / Sapphire Curry
        Sapphire Paul George / Onyx Maravich / Onyx Iguodala
        Gold Lebron / Onyx Havlicek
        Onyx Bill Walton / Gold Durant
        Sapphire Yao / Ruby Mourning

        Teams are getting so big these days thanks to the erasers pack and players like Onyx Wilt. So playing Bill Walton on PF made a lot of sense for me, and I am loving it so far.

        Against smaller teams or zone/double team abusers however, I usually go 4-1 with Lebron on PF and Havlicek on SF. Against such teams when Havlicek gets tired I have no good replacement for him on the SF spot, that's why I'm looking for a good SF to be the star of my second unit on both sides of the floor.
        Steam(EU): PandaPower

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        • justlaze
          MVP
          • May 2015
          • 1172

          #859
          Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

          ...getting Dr. J is recommendable - Diamond Durant or a badged up Gold MJ can do the job aswell.

          What do you think of my current line-up? After lots of good words I invested in Ruby Magic (I love him already ) and also got Ruby Shaq along the way. I sold Onyx Chris Paul because he got bullied by big 1s all the time and got rid of Onyx Howard because I got Sapphire Russel.

          Starting 5:

          Magic Johnson
          Kobe
          MJ 95
          Garnett
          Shaq

          Bench:

          Big O
          Pistol Pete (he is so underrated imo)
          Dr J.
          The Admiral
          The Dream

          Other alternatives: Russel, Yao , Durant , Lebron

          I still got 200k MT left and making more day by day. Would you sell some one or shift somebody else in the roster?

          thanks
          Baron Peja Melo Issel Mutombo

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          • Abstruso
            Pro
            • Feb 2014
            • 540

            #860
            Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

            Originally posted by PandaPower2k
            Imo, Onyx Havlicek is a better player than Onyx Pierce (94 overall), and much cheaper too.

            I don't think Onyx Lebron is worth buying, Gold one is just as good... If not better with 34 gold badges and higher standing 3pt.

            Also, I think that Sapphire Yao is worth getting. He's too good, I'd probably start him Center over Hakeem.

            Vince is great on offense, but his defense is pretty bad. I'd replace him with Ruby Dunker Drexler or a badged up Gold Jordan, as QNo suggested as well.
            Nope, Onyx Lebron is better than the gold. I have bought him as an investment but couldn't let him go after a couple of games. His 3pt rating might be lower than the Gold but for me he is the much better shooter. So when you start LBJ and you can afford the Onyx, trying the Onyx won't hurt, just buy him cheap.

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            • PandaPower2k
              Rookie
              • May 2015
              • 154

              #861
              Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

              Of course Onyx Lebron is better. But it's not worth it if you have a Gold Lebron with gold badges. The difference is so minor... Plus, Gold Lebron is a better 3pt shooter. They have the same release and Gold Lebron has higher standing 3pt rating...
              Steam(EU): PandaPower

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              • QNo
                MVP
                • Nov 2014
                • 1821

                #862
                Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                Panda: Diamond Durant, then Dr J sounds good to me. I think the Hakeem collection would require about 200k, not sure if you can get there. Get Mutombo, he's only 10k on PC.

                Justlaze: I'd sell Shaq, I find that Mutombo is better than my PD in every facet of he game minus catching alley-oops. Ruby Robinson seems to be the best C after Onyx Wilt and Sapph Eraser Hakeem.

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                • knicksfan111
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 106

                  #863
                  Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                  PG: Sapphire Curry, Sapphire Big O, Sapphire John Wall
                  SG: PD Paul George
                  SF: Sapphire Dr. J, Diamond Durant
                  PF: Sapphire Karl Malone, Sapphire Hakeem
                  C: PD Shaq, Sapphire Yao

                  I have about 220k to spend on my last big purchase of they year. I recently sold onyx Kobe because I couldn't get his shot down. What player(s) should I get?

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                  • QNo
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 1821

                    #864
                    Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                    Originally posted by knicksfan111
                    PG: Sapphire Curry, Sapphire Big O, Sapphire John Wall
                    SG: PD Paul George
                    SF: Sapphire Dr. J, Diamond Durant
                    PF: Sapphire Karl Malone, Sapphire Hakeem
                    C: PD Shaq, Sapphire Yao

                    I have about 220k to spend on my last big purchase of they year. I recently sold onyx Kobe because I couldn't get his shot down. What player(s) should I get?
                    Badged out gold MJ. Get a cheap sharpshooter for the bench (Sapph Mullin, if you can afford it Onyx Hondo, Onyx Mitch or Ruby Klay)

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                    • knicksfan111
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 106

                      #865
                      Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                      Has anyone ever used gold Allen Iverson and is he worth 170k?

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                      • QNo
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 1821

                        #866
                        Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                        Originally posted by knicksfan111
                        Has anyone ever used gold Allen Iverson and is he worth 170k?
                        Haven't used him, but by all accounts: not worth it.

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                        • Infreno
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 239

                          #867
                          Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                          Is Ruby Mutombo worth the 40k MT when I have Ming/Wilt/Hakeem/Robinson/Russell at Center?
                          http://2kmtcentral.com/17/lineups/176081/boom-shakalaka

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                          • PandaPower2k
                            Rookie
                            • May 2015
                            • 154

                            #868
                            Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                            Originally posted by Infreno
                            Is Ruby Mutombo worth the 40k MT when I have Ming/Wilt/Hakeem/Robinson/Russell at Center?
                            I found one for 5k on PC AH. 40k is too much for him in the current market.

                            And I don't think he's that much better than the players you have... I tried him in a few games, but I'm more comfortable with Yao as my center. I don't wanna miss that midrange jumper and post game.
                            Last edited by PandaPower2k; 06-05-2015, 01:15 PM.
                            Steam(EU): PandaPower

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                            • Abstruso
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 540

                              #869
                              Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                              Originally posted by Infreno
                              Is Ruby Mutombo worth the 40k MT when I have Ming/Wilt/Hakeem/Robinson/Russell at Center?
                              When you are looking for awesome defending & rebounding and don't need much points from your C, Mutombo is the man. 40k is a good price on PS4. The only C with a better D is Onyx Wilt for 600k+.

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                              • QNo
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 1821

                                #870
                                Re: Whats your lineup/lineup help thread

                                Exactly, Mutombo is the 2nd best defensive C & rebounder in the game and a decent finisher, much better than Wilt and Russell in every aspect. Hakeem is much better offensively and a great defensive C, but he can't properly defend Yao against whom you'll be up a decent amount of the time. Yao is also the better rebounder.

                                Yao is obviously better on offense than Deke but a massive liabilty on defense, simply because he is an atrocious PnR defender. A normal 15, 25 etc PnR will give up a basket the majority of the time, provided that the ball-handler is fast enough and your opponent runs the PnR well enough, forcing Yao to hedge.

                                Not every opponent is good enough to exploit this, but if they are they're basically forcing you to sub Yao out. I see a decent amount of pick and fades ran with Yao, which Yao is ironically too slow to guard. Yao is also too slow to consistently play effective help-defense, even though he occasionally gets glitchy blocks due to his insane length.

                                My recommendation would be to determine you starting C depending on your opponent. If he starts Yao you need Yao or Mutombo, if he runs PnRs against your Yao with any frequency you need to sub Mutombo in. If he starts a fast C like Onyx Wilt you should also put Mutombo in since he's the only one with enough lateral quickness to guard him properly. If he starts a smaller C but runs PnRs against Yao, Hakeem or Mutombo are great. If he's bad it really doesn't matter what you do.

                                I personally alternate between Mutombo and Hakeem, usually starting the former since he's never outmatched. I thought about sticking Yao at the end of my bench but don't really see the point, as Hakeem is as dominant as Yao when used correctly. I prefer to save those spaces for situational players like Artest and Bird. I'm going to buy a Ruby Admiral when I can find an affordable one (he's over 600k on PC) and stick him at the 4 instead of AD. That paint will be on lockdown.

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