Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

[ChiliPalmer]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

I have to disagree with some of your points. He doesn't play like the regular PG. Its a huge difference. The Shot Close differences are huge for finishing around the basket. The rebounding I agree, but I think when he jumps to Amethyst and becomes Elite who's knows what else will be boosted. If he gets injured im pretty sure his rating will be locked at what they left it kinda of like Brandon Jennings. The prices should not be the same because its a different commodity your after. Your right about the numbers may not jump out the page, but I used both cards and to me its night and day between the dynamic and static. But thats just my opinion.

Imo thats a classic placebo effect. let some friend put a random version in your scrimmage roster and you will not guess which version it is more than 50 % of the time.
if you state the "shot close" has a HUGE effect on finishing around the basket it only confirms the placebo view for me. Shot close has nothing to do with finishing, that would be layup and contact/draw foul stats. And they didnt got upgraded.

[QNo]

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uhhh...no. im using their stats to show the inconsistency of 2K's rating system. both guys averaging the same number for both years would mean the same ratings bump. you using advanced analytics to show one gathers more % of their team's rebounds not taking into account Miami using a stretch 4 and the 90s rockets using a more traditional lineup as well as varying style of plays of the two eras but trying to argue that one is "clearly" better than the other is an indictment on your lack of insight........not me

i am very capable of arguing who was a better rebounder....and have the data to back me....pick your poison.

"Whiteside is clearly a better rebounder(than hakeem)." -- Qno, 2015. never forget

You're making the strange assumption that 2k looks at total rebounding numbers to determine the rebounding ratings. But they clearly don't, and why would they use those stoneage stats when better ones are both available and widely recognised as superiour. People who argue that Rodman was a better rebounder than Wilt and Russell don't rely on total rebounding numbers, do they.

Saying that rebouding numbers don't translate across eras is fine, but then don't use them to supplement your view that Hakeem was as good or better than Whiteside with TRB stats. FWIW, the stretch 4 argument doesn't work in this case. Their ORB% is very similar, and Bosh is a stretch 4 on offense, obviously. Defensively, they face some stretch 4s, of course. But Bosh hangs back a lot more than he used to in the LeBron days, they play a very different defensive scheme. That's also why his rebounding numbers - for which he was critiqued a lot back then - went up. He's simply playing closer to the basket and not chasing and trapping guys around the 3-point line.

Also, remember that we're comparing two regular seasons, not an individual's body of work. Hakeem was a better rebounder than that when he was younger and we're comparing him with a Whiteside that might have been in his prime when it comes to rebounding.

[synistr]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

you guys are undervaluing hype in regards to PG. i bought PG 2 weeks ago for 40k when he was a 86 on ps4... I sold him today for 172k. He's gonna be an amethyst and more than likely he wont go back down. If you get him thats a great value and worth a ton i believe. Only reason i sold him is because I got Nique and Scottie last night. Also i picked up Dynamic Jimmy for 47k.

would you buy him back for 172k? if not then its not a real value in YOUR eyes. maybe to the person that bought him, yeah. you kinda just contradicted what you said. you sold him for 172 but bought Nique, Scottie and Jimmy all for I am sure less than the profit you made off PG. That was the better value....getting 3 great players as opposed to one who isnt vastly superior over the other 3.

He is only worth it to someone who is going to really use that version more than the regular. 172k can buy a lot of cards for your collection or a lot of packs.

[SpacialJones]

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would you buy him back for 172k? if not then its not a real value in YOUR eyes. maybe to the person that bought him, yeah. you kinda just contradicted what you said. you sold him for 172 but bought Nique, Scottie and Jimmy all for I am sure less than the profit you made off PG. That was the better value....getting 3 great players as opposed to one who isnt vastly superior over the other 3.

He is only worth it to someone who is going to really use that version more than the regular. 172k can buy a lot of cards for your collection or a lot of packs.

your actually mis-quoting me. Nique and Scottie i got for free finishing domination. (pretty lucky i got Nique. still amazed.) And truth be told, I actually would once he turns into amethyst. But thats because I have a weird thing about not using guys who majority of the community uses.

[SpacialJones]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

Imo thats a classic placebo effect. let some friend put a random version in your scrimmage roster and you will not guess which version it is more than 50 % of the time.
if you state the "shot close" has a HUGE effect on finishing around the basket it only confirms the placebo view for me. Shot close has nothing to do with finishing, that would be layup and contact/draw foul stats. And they didnt got upgraded.

Moving and Standing shots close is what i meant when i said finishing. Not just being able to get layups but shots with contact around the basket i always thought was attributed Moving and Standing shot close? I'll also safely disagree with your placebo argument. Im typing this while at work but as someone who plays Myteam close to 5 hours a day. (2 hours in the am and about 3 when i get off) i think i could tell the difference. When I ran fastbreaks with dynamic PG i was much more confident with him around the rim than the Static card because of the shot close ratings. (which i'll acknowledge if you know definitively what shots those are attributed too than im mistaken.) I use static Blake and when i play my sparring buddy aka my cousin in exhibition or even when i use Blake in guantlet...If he's not dunking even with mismatches he does not finish well. My cousin has the same trouble with him in that regard.

[synistr]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

your actually mis-quoting me. Nique and Scottie i got for free finishing domination. (pretty lucky i got Nique. still amazed.) And truth be told, I actually would once he turns into amethyst. But thats because I have a weird thing about not using guys who majority of the community uses.

well, I am a huge Paul George fan and love his card so I cant knock you. If I were you though, I wouldve bought two, one to keep and one to flip

[Joeythebigboss]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

Paul george better get a update not because I invested in his card XD but because he deserves it.

[KingTocco]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

Paul george better get a update not because I invested in his card XD but because he deserves it.

He's been getting updates, where have you been?


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[freeagentwallace]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

You're making the strange assumption that 2k looks at total rebounding numbers to determine the rebounding ratings. But they clearly don't, and why would they use those stoneage stats when better ones are both available and widely recognised as superiour. People who argue that Rodman was a better rebounder than Wilt and Russell don't rely on total rebounding numbers, do they.

bc those "stoneage" stats still tell the story more accurately. trb% is an ESTIMATED number. using oreb%, dreb%, and trb%, mark eaton was a better rebounder than Hakeem...as represented in the ratings in this years game....but we both know thats bull ****. but thats what happens when you use put more weight over an estimated number vs a concrete number or "stoneage" as you put it.

[Joeythebigboss]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

He's been getting updates, where have you been?


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I mean another update

[freeagentwallace]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

I mean another update

he will get another update. he's been shooting lights out lately and putting up some big numbers. i dont know what they will do to his defense/athleticism but his shooting has to take another bump

[Enso]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

Porzingis gonna get a +2 boost next week thats for suuuuure

[ChiliPalmer]

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Just got a Dynamic Harden for cheap by accident. Dont like him personally, question is should i keep him or firesale. Dont watch any rocket gamed as i hate them. Will he recover or will he be a gold for the season?

[freeagentwallace]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

Just got a Dynamic Harden for cheap by accident. Dont like him personally, question is should i keep him or firesale. Dont watch any rocket gamed as i hate them. Will he recover or will he be a gold for the season?

he shouldnt even be gold in the first place. they failed to boost him when he won player of the week.

[ChiliPalmer]

Re: Dynamic Cards that will increase in value as season progresses

he shouldnt even be gold in the first place. they failed to boost him when he won player of the week.

But will he ever play defense? They killed his defensive stats by -20 defensive consistency. does he hit some 3s?