St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

[Bi00]

Re: St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

Extra speed is great for transition offense and defense, the UA speed shoes are probably the best ones for him.

[harryl]

Re: St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

I feel like he'd benefit from a boost to Acceleration. Perhaps not on offense, so much, as I think his slowish dribble moves prevent him from truly ever exploding, with the ball. But I think getting his Acceleration up to 90 or higher would be helpful on defense, in covering the faster wings. Could make him viable to play at the 2, where he might get a nicer mismatch to exploit with his strength and post game.

I also wonder how he'd handle in the post with his Post Control driven up +9 to 97, maybe Post Hook +6 to 76, and Post Fade +3 to 98 (or maxed out to 99). Don't know if one would get an appreciable effect on stuff like post-fades, but I imagine the higher Post Control would help with post-spins and drop-steps.

The other ratings I'm curious about boosting are Steal and Shot Contest. Generally, would be nice to get his Shot Contest up to an elite 97 with a +9 boost. Especially if playing him at the 4 and perhaps expecting to do a lot of hands-up contesting of post shots. And on that note, with 80 Steal, a +9 there would get him up to 89, with Gold Pick Pocket, and simply stripping the ball could be a very good way of him playing strong defense in the post against more physical post-up 4's.

Even ramping up his 90 Strength to 99 would be interesting. I wonder how such a big advantage in Strength against even the stronger wings around 80 Strength would enable him (or not) to very dramatically bully them in the paint...like a smaller version of a Shaq vs. Mutombo duel.

There's a small handful of interesting possibilities when it comes to boosting Pierce with a Shoe.

[EarvGotti]

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So I know everyone is talking about speed shoes.. But I don't really feel this pierce needs any athleticism boosts. He feels quick enough as is. The shoes I put on him are white/blue Jordan's that bump his mid range to 99 open 99 moving and 99 contested.

I don't really need that much explosiveness from him. I don't really try to beat a defender to take it to the rack like I would with vince. Pierce just needs to be able to get a few dribble moves off to create a chance at a step back mid or something like that.

The only other stat besides mid range that I'd consider boosting is his driving layup. Unfortunately I could not find a shoe with contested mid/moving mid/driving layup on it. If anybody knows of such shoe please let me know!

Yup his mid range ratings are his bread & butter. This card feels so true to real life man

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[Nickstank]

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Yup his mid range ratings are his bread & butter. This card feels so true to real life man

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The thing that bugs me is that he doesn't have midrange plays! I'd love to be able to run some for him as that was his money shot, but 2K decided it was more important to give him iso plays even though you can do that on any possession with a swipe of the pad.

[Bubba13laze]

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The thing that bugs me is that he doesn't have midrange plays! I'd love to be able to run some for him as that was his money shot, but 2K decided it was more important to give him iso plays even though you can do that on any possession with a swipe of the pad.

Pinch Iso is the best play in the game for him Imo. Catch it in the post at the elbow with lots of space. He can face up and go to work in the midrange area. You can face up and drive, dribble and shoot, use post game.. Tons of options.

[Nickstank]

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Pinch Iso is the best play in the game for him Imo. Catch it in the post at the elbow with lots of space. He can face up and go to work in the midrange area. You can face up and drive, dribble and shoot, use post game.. Tons of options.

Good call. I don't think that's in the Rockets playbook that I use, but I'll see if there's another Iso that puts him in the high post. Still, I'd love it if I could call a few midrange plays with him coming around off-ball screens.

[anditbeg1ns]

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This PP is criminally underpriced I literally bought 40 of them, between 35k to 50k each. I'm expecting prices to go back up over 70k in a week's time.


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[Fakename22]

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This card is much more than an ISO player. I mean he can score in transition, dunk on people in traffic, the post game, off the dribble , pick and pop, pick and roll due to his dunk ratings.

I dont know what shoe I put on him but it gave him 99 on ball and 99 def consistency. I got the card with intentions to put him at PF but after beating Historic domination I ended up putting Mikan at PF.

Soooo I have Pierce at SG and hes the best "sg" in the game. His strength rating and post game makes him cheese posting up sgs and pgs. I gave him gold ankle breaker and mannnnnn its too easy. He sprints down the court on breaks for easy 3's. I had to move Amy Harden to a 6 man role after I discovered PP at SG.

[isdatyt]

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This card is much more than an ISO player. I mean he can score in transition, dunk on people in traffic, the post game, off the dribble , pick and pop, pick and roll due to his dunk ratings.

I dont know what shoe I put on him but it gave him 99 on ball and 99 def consistency. I got the card with intentions to put him at PF but after beating Historic domination I ended up putting Mikan at PF.

Soooo I have Pierce at SG and hes the best "sg" in the game. His strength rating and post game makes him cheese posting up sgs and pgs. I gave him gold ankle breaker and mannnnnn its too easy. He sprints down the court on breaks for easy 3's. I had to move Amy Harden to a 6 man role after I discovered PP at SG.

I've actually been thinking about Pierce at the 2 but I'd have to do some maneuvering. I run Diamond Parker & Harden at 1&2 but Harden at the 1 is amazing on offense so maybe I'll put TP on the bench. I wish we could do those advanced subs like ML so I could manage this better.

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[Fakename22]

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I've actually been thinking about Pierce at the 2 but I'd have to do some maneuvering. I run Diamond Parker & Harden at 1&2 but Harden at the 1 is amazing on offense so maybe I'll put TP on the bench. I wish we could do those advanced subs like ML so I could manage this better.

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Yeah Amy/Diamond Harden is insane at the point. Funny you say that because Im starting Francis but was thinking about moving Harden to the paint but hes the kingpin of my bench unit.

You wont regret moving PP to SG he has just enough stock speed and you can make him faster if you want to. And hes big 6-7, 235lbs strong as hell. Its truly an OP card. I feel he has the best advantage at SG. I had him at the 4 for a few games but I felt dirty with him just camped in the corner and it was harder for him to post up 4s. Try him at the 2.

Diamond Harden/PP combo is a nasty backcourt.

[harryl]

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Only played him in a vs. CPU game...the final Weekly Challenge vs. Hawks, at All-Star difficulty. So fairly easy conditions, and only one game, but his outside shot seems like it's a really considerable weapon. Shot 3/5 from outside. One was coming off a screen to sprint to opposite wing and get shot off before contest came, one was an open, but moving (turnaround) three-pointer at the top of the arc (his one non-hot zone), and another was a really stupid fading three that was moderately contested. The two I missed were either contested or moving.

Post-fades were easy and easy to green.

I didn't get to testing moving midranges, which were next on my list, because, after he dropped almost 20 in the first half, they double-teamed him every time he touched the ball. So I only got to pass out of double-teams for assists with him.

I think prices have started to creep up (at least on PC) now that he's out of packs. Make sure you get him.

[sk8board]

Re: St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

pulled him last night and played a game with him

he did ok for his first game. i will try to use him more tonight

[anditbeg1ns]

Re: St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

Bought a badged out PP with Diamond +9 spd, SwB, and acc for 83k.

The previous owner went cheap and put some bad badges though, putback king, hustler rebounder, tear dropper, aren't my first choice for the SG position


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[caffeinater]

Re: St. Patrick's Paul Pierce

Bought a badged out PP with Diamond +9 spd, SwB, and acc for 83k.

The previous owner went cheap and put some bad badges though, putback king, hustler rebounder, tear dropper, aren't my first choice for the SG position


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Was that on XB1 last night? I saw one like that and might have grabbed it if I had the MT on hand...

[harryl]

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Bought a badged out PP with Diamond +9 spd, SwB, and acc for 83k.

The previous owner went cheap and put some bad badges though, putback king, hustler rebounder, tear dropper, aren't my first choice for the SG position

That's not too bad. I think slots could be used better than to apply Putback King or Tear Dropper, but I think Hustle Rebounder makes a lot of sense because he can get boards at SF and a lot of people would play him as a Stretch 4. He has adequate Rebounding Ratings and good Vertical, and may be one of the best wings to run as a 4 without losing too much in rebounding.

And the triple speed Diamond shoe is basically ideal for Pierce. The only other boosting that is as compelling to drop on is, in my opinion, pushing his Shot Contest to an elite level, and getting his Steal up even higher.