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  • janmagn
    Pro
    • Apr 2012
    • 668

    #751
    Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

    Originally posted by PeaceSim
    Why do majority of the players have 99 driving layup?
    2K's scale is built so 99 gives a FG% same or lower when doing a driving layup

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    • PeaceSim
      Rookie
      • Dec 2017
      • 55

      #752
      Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

      Originally posted by janmagn
      2K's scale is built so 99 gives a FG% same or lower when doing a driving layup

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      Not sure what you mean.

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      • SonicMage
        NBA Ratings Wizard
        • Oct 2002
        • 3544

        #753
        Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

        Originally posted by PeaceSim
        Why do majority of the players have 99 driving layup?
        Not a majority of them, but certainly a lot. About a year ago I did some extensive testing to find out what percentages each rating corresponded to in sim stats for a lot of key shooting categories. For layups, what I found was the range was way too low; it's hard, really hard, to get a player to shoot 70% or more from the paint in this game in sim stats. This was a big problem in 2K17, which is partly why the Points in the paint was such an issue, and now in 2K18 it's the same. But the reason why PITP is not as much an issue with 2K's roster in 2K18 is because dunk tendencies are so high which brought up the total points, and not because they fixed the actual issue with the percentages. I tried reporting it at the time, but no one ever really looked at it, and here we are with the same problem.
        NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

        Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
        Link to Ratings 1996-2017
        Link to Ratings 1973-1996
        Link to Ratings All-time

        Discussion found here

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        • adeezus
          Rookie
          • Oct 2015
          • 91

          #754
          Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

          Sonic, I'd love to see what slider set you're using or at least the major changes you're rolling with.

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          • janmagn
            Pro
            • Apr 2012
            • 668

            #755
            Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

            Originally posted by PeaceSim
            Not sure what you mean.
            The 2K sim engine gives a certain shooting % for a certain rating. That % is the same or smaller than what they really shoot when doing a driving layup

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            • PeaceSim
              Rookie
              • Dec 2017
              • 55

              #756
              Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

              Originally posted by janmagn
              The 2K sim engine gives a certain shooting % for a certain rating. That % is the same or smaller than what they really shoot when doing a driving layup

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              What about Pau Gasol having HOF limitless range?

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              • janmagn
                Pro
                • Apr 2012
                • 668

                #757
                Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                Originally posted by PeaceSim
                What about Pau Gasol having HOF limitless range?
                Pau shot like 54% from three last year with under 1 attempt per game. He must've shot lights out beyond the line too

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                • SonicMage
                  NBA Ratings Wizard
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3544

                  #758
                  Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                  Originally posted by PeaceSim
                  What about Pau Gasol having HOF limitless range?
                  My formula for limitless range is percentages when shooting over 26 feet from the basket. As of the last time I grabbed stats on November 12th, he was 9 for 17 from that distance on the season. Since 17 is not enough to fulfill the minimum criteria of 24 shots, what I do next is add shots from the post all-star period of the previous season as well.

                  So with that period last year and this year combined, he's 32 for 68, which is 47.0%. I don't give HOF badges lightly, it has to be one of the best we've seen which you have to agree that percentage certainly is. I even give progressive penalties for low shot totals and he still beat out Steph Curry from that range.

                  Now I'm in the process of grabbing new stats for another update, and Pau's cooled off a bit so he'll probably no longer have the HOF, but he'll certainly still have the badge at some level.
                  Last edited by SonicMage; 12-05-2017, 01:55 AM.
                  NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                  Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                  Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                  Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                  Link to Ratings All-time

                  Discussion found here

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                  • PeaceSim
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 55

                    #759
                    Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                    Originally posted by SonicMage
                    My formula for limitless range is percentages when shooting over 26 feet from the basket. As of the last time I grabbed stats on November 12th, he was 9 for 17 from that distance on the season. Since 17 is not enough to fulfill the minimum criteria of 24 shots, what I do next is add shots from the post all-star period of the previous season as well.

                    So with that period last year and this year combined, he's 32 for 68, which is 47.0%. I don't give HOF badges lightly, it has to be one of the best we've seen which you have to agree that percentage certainly is. I even give progressive penalties for low shot totals and he still beat out Steph Curry from that range.

                    Now I'm in the process of grabbing new stats for another update, and Pau's cooled off a bit so he'll probably no longer have the HOF, but he'll certainly still have the badge at some level.
                    You're talking about how well he shot standard threes. HOF limitless range is being excellent at nearly half-court.

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                    • SonicMage
                      NBA Ratings Wizard
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 3544

                      #760
                      Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                      Originally posted by PeaceSim
                      You're talking about how well he shot standard threes. HOF limitless range is being excellent at nearly half-court.
                      No I'm talking about how well he shot at more than 26 feet from the basket, which is more than a couple feet behind the line. Badge grinders and 2k lab have all confirmed that that's where limitless range begins and then tapers off the further you get from the basket.

                      EDIT: Wait, no, that's interesting. I'll get back to you in a second, I may have just found a bug.

                      EDIT 2: Yup, it's a bug in my code. A real nasty one, too. This might affect things a little bit like close and midrange hot zones and close/midrange tendencies, but only by a small amount. Limitless range may get the biggest fix of all though. Unfortunately, it's the type of bug where I need to run a lot of scripts to correct the problem so it may take a couple days added on to what I'm already doing to compile the new stats.
                      Last edited by SonicMage; 12-05-2017, 03:36 AM.
                      NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                      Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                      Link to Ratings All-time

                      Discussion found here

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                      • PeaceSim
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 55

                        #761
                        Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                        Originally posted by SonicMage
                        No I'm talking about how well he shot at more than 26 feet from the basket, which is more than a couple feet behind the line. Badge grinders and 2k lab have all confirmed that that's where limitless range begins and then tapers off the further you get from the basket.

                        EDIT: Wait, no, that's interesting. I'll get back to you in a second, I may have just found a bug.

                        EDIT 2: Yup, it's a bug in my code. A real nasty one, too. This might affect things a little bit like close and midrange hot zones and close/midrange tendencies, but only by a small amount. Limitless range may get the biggest fix of all though. Unfortunately, it's the type of bug where I need to run a lot of scripts to correct the problem so it may take a couple days added on to what I'm already doing to compile the new stats.
                        Glad I could help.

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                        • SonicMage
                          NBA Ratings Wizard
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 3544

                          #762
                          Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                          Originally posted by PeaceSim
                          Glad I could help.
                          Yup, thanks.

                          The formula's the same, but the bug was with the way I was calculating shot distances from the shot chart data, that would have potentially thrown most of them off by a little bit, couple feet at worst. So in Pau's case, he had some 25 foot shots being counted as 27 feet which is why there were so many shots well behind the line. This will correct that problem.
                          NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                          Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                          Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                          Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                          Link to Ratings All-time

                          Discussion found here

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                          • daweism
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 24

                            #763
                            Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                            Have you released a roster yet for in game yet? Playing MyLeague with the default roster is pure cancer for someone who wants realistic stats.

                            If not, what do I have to do to acquire this?
                            Last edited by daweism; 12-06-2017, 08:33 PM.

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                            • King Gro23
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2548

                              #764
                              Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                              What would happen to FTA's if foul tendencies were increased globally across league? Haven't ran sim myself and never ran a sim with your ratings or tendencies sonic?



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                              • daweism
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                                • Nov 2016
                                • 24

                                #765
                                Re: Sonicmage's SportsCrunch Ratings

                                Originally posted by King Gro23
                                What would happen to FTA's if foul tendencies were increased globally across league? Haven't ran sim myself and never ran a sim with your ratings or tendencies sonic?



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                                This would cause players to be in foul trouble more frequently and mess with their minutes played.

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