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  • Jaiveer
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 1460

    #16
    Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

    Originally posted by VizzyXV
    I started up a spreadsheet, if any of you want an invite to it inbox me your gmail address

    Basically all I'm doing now is a 2015-16 roster, just the personal info FOR NOW

    I figure we could do that and just work backwards year by year? Or unless everyone really wants a certain year
    Yeah that's a great idea! Maybe by 2? For the first few years until like 12-13 and we can can skip 10-11 and 09-10 because I have them.

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    • Jaiveer
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 1460

      #17
      Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

      I was thinking that instead of having just 2 finals teams per roster we can have all of the last 15 years, or even more because of classic team slots. It would be be awesome to have the best of the best face off. What do you guys think, I love the going down idea as well.

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      • Coachjosh21
        Rookie
        • Feb 2014
        • 193

        #18
        Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

        Originally posted by Jaiveer
        I was thinking that instead of having just 2 finals teams per roster we can have all of the last 15 years, or even more because of classic team slots. It would be be awesome to have the best of the best face off. What do you guys think, I love the going down idea as well.
        This is a good idea to put multiple years on the same roster. But I would only want to use the appropriate team slots. For example I don't want to use a wizards slot for a Spurs team when we run out of spurs slots. We could still put a few years on the same roster though

        2015 Warriors- current slot
        2015 Cavs- current
        2014 Spurs- current
        2014 Heat- current
        2013 Heat- 2013 heat
        2013 Spurs- 97-98 Spurs
        2012 Heat- 2006 heat
        2012 Thunder- current

        But then there's a 2011 Heat and no more heat slots so that's when you start on a new roster:

        2011 Heat- 2013 Heat
        2011 Mavs- current
        2010 Lakers- current
        2010 Celtics- current
        2009 Lakers- 2001 Lakers
        2009 Magic- current
        2008 Lakers- 97-98 Lakers
        2008 Celtics- 2008 celtics
        2007 Cavs- 2007 Cavs
        2007 Spurs- current
        2006 Heat- 2006 heat
        2006 Mavs- 2003 Mavs
        2005 Spurs- 97-98 Spurs
        2005 Pistons- current

        And then you'll run out of lakers teams that don't have short shorts!

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        • Coachjosh21
          Rookie
          • Feb 2014
          • 193

          #19
          Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

          Or maybe the user could just trade the players to the right team if he wanted that. I really like the idea of all these finals teams facing off Jaiveer

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          • Coachjosh21
            Rookie
            • Feb 2014
            • 193

            #20
            Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

            Originally posted by VizzyXV
            How do you guys think the coach ratings are decided?

            These are what you can edit for head coaches

            Offense
            Defense
            Potential
            Contracts
            Trading
            Scouting
            Training
            Business


            Above are all grade ratings from F to A+ I reckon only offense and defense, maybe potential play a part ON court so I was thinking, I know we can't get actual faces, BUT if we were able to figure out a system, a way of rating coaches, by some stat like idk ORTG and DRTG, we could potentially be able to implement HOW the coach of a particular team of that particular year coaches, for example Byron Scott coaches the Lakers, but if we were to look at the 2009 Lakers, and determine a rating for Phil Jackson that year we could edit Byron Scott's ratings to give it a bit more realism I suppose

            You can also edit these

            Team Style
            Style 1, 2, 3
            -Athleticism
            -Intangibles
            -Marketability
            -Shooting post
            -Shooting mid
            -Shooting three
            -Shot creation
            -Size
            -Toughness
            -Transition
            -Two way

            Offense vs Defense
            -Balanced
            -Leans Defense
            -Heavily Defense
            -Heavily Offense
            -Leans Offense

            Guards vs Forwards
            -Balanced
            -Slightly to forwards
            -Heavily to forwards
            -Heavily to guards
            -Slightly to guards

            Inside vs Outside
            -Balanced
            -More outside
            -Everything outside
            -Everything inside
            -More inside

            Keep in mind though can only edit those through MyLeague (not sure bout MyGM) so wouldn't work for quick play

            I hope all that makes sense lmao
            It's really too bad that coaching ratings are only editable in MyLeague. That's a lot of editing for the user to do. If you have motivation to write up the coaching grades for each created team and shared them, I'm sure some people would go and edit it in their own association file though. I think most people would be willing to at least edit the coach ratings directly related to playing on the court. People that want a long association of multiple years might be willing to edit more
            Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 11:50 AM.

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            • janmagn
              Pro
              • Apr 2012
              • 668

              #21
              Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

              Right now, I have this huge excel file of fictional draft classes I talked about in that other thread. However, my databases there are severly lacking. I have about 150 of 1700 something players rookie numbers and assists percentage. Also, I have a tendencies tab and a attributes tab for the work of Sonicmage. Those are just started and don't have anything in them. I was wondering if someone was willing to help me fill those databases.

              Also, about the classes. I was thinking if I should put the players on to tiers. So, let's say a center would be a great offensive rebounder, average defensive rebounder and an elite shot blocker. Now from the players that are in that tier, I randomize the guy whose stats to use.

              If you didn't notice, I'd be willing to jump to work on the fictional draft class bases. I'd prefer that there were atleast two of us, but I could see myself working with multiple people on this. The shots and appearances are not my thing tho.

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              http://sportgeek.wixsite.com/sportblogs

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              • Coachjosh21
                Rookie
                • Feb 2014
                • 193

                #22
                Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                Originally posted by janmagn
                Right now, I have this huge excel file of fictional draft classes I talked about in that other thread. However, my databases there are severly lacking. I have about 150 of 1700 something players rookie numbers and assists percentage. Also, I have a tendencies tab and a attributes tab for the work of Sonicmage. Those are just started and don't have anything in them. I was wondering if someone was willing to help me fill those databases.

                Also, about the classes. I was thinking if I should put the players on to tiers. So, let's say a center would be a great offensive rebounder, average defensive rebounder and an elite shot blocker. Now from the players that are in that tier, I randomize the guy whose stats to use.

                If you didn't notice, I'd be willing to jump to work on the fictional draft class bases. I'd prefer that there were atleast two of us, but I could see myself working with multiple people on this. The shots and appearances are not my thing tho.

                Lähetetty minun LG-H440n laitteesta Tapatalkilla
                As far as a spreadsheet goes, I think that its a given that all rosters (and draft classes) will need that prior to starting. If we're going to go season by season, eventually all rookies will be accounted for. VinnyXv started a spreadsheet last night. He's starting with the current year and working his way back. It will be slow going at first to get all the hundreds of players on one spreadsheet. Plus Sonic has lots of tendencies and ratings, but not all of them are completed yet. By release time of 2k17, I think a working spreadsheet that you can utilize for fictional draft classes will be available. You should talk to Vinny about adding what you've collected so far to his spreadsheet as a separate tab.


                As for you volunteering with fictional classes, I'll add you to the op! Thanks!
                Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 04:55 PM.

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                • Coachjosh21
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 193

                  #23
                  Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                  Added Janmagn (fictional draft class creator) to credits. Added myself to credits as the "Evil Producer". It's a Truehoop tv reference if you never seen it.


                  You guys have me checking OS way too much right now! But I'm excited to see this come together! Let me know if there's any more thoughts on how we can go about making past NBA finals rosters for 2k16. I think this will be our first project.
                  Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 05:07 PM.

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                  • Jaiveer
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1460

                    #24
                    Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                    Originally posted by Coachjosh21
                    This is a good idea to put multiple years on the same roster. But I would only want to use the appropriate team slots. For example I don't want to use a wizards slot for a Spurs team when we run out of spurs slots. We could still put a few years on the same roster though

                    2015 Warriors- current slot
                    2015 Cavs- current
                    2014 Spurs- current
                    2014 Heat- current
                    2013 Heat- 2013 heat
                    2013 Spurs- 97-98 Spurs
                    2012 Heat- 2006 heat
                    2012 Thunder- current

                    But then there's a 2011 Heat and no more heat slots so that's when you start on a new roster:

                    2011 Heat- 2013 Heat
                    2011 Mavs- current
                    2010 Lakers- current
                    2010 Celtics- current
                    2009 Lakers- 2001 Lakers
                    2009 Magic- current
                    2008 Lakers- 97-98 Lakers
                    2008 Celtics- 2008 celtics
                    2007 Cavs- 2007 Cavs
                    2007 Spurs- current
                    2006 Heat- 2006 heat
                    2006 Mavs- 2003 Mavs
                    2005 Spurs- 97-98 Spurs
                    2005 Pistons- current

                    And then you'll run out of lakers teams that don't have short shorts!

                    I actually think if there is a couple of teams that have qualified like 2-3 straight times we can choose the best team from those years. Or we can just make a roster with the available spots and make a new one on the next roster.

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                    • Coachjosh21
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 193

                      #25
                      Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                      Originally posted by Jaiveer
                      I actually think if there is a couple of teams that have qualified like 2-3 straight times we can choose the best team from those years. Or we can just make a roster with the available spots and make a new one on the next roster.
                      Yeah I like your idea better about putting them on the same roster. Just means we may need to create caps for people like Lebron or Duncan. We need a good CAP guy or it won't look good

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                      • Coachjosh21
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 193

                        #26
                        Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                        Using Javieer's idea of not using every team if they made the finals for multiple years, here are the teams we can create and the slots we could use for teams. We can go back pretty far just using current teams and classic teams already made by 2k.


                        2015 Warriors- current slot
                        2015 Cavs- current
                        2014 Spurs- current
                        2013 Heat- 2013 heat
                        2012 Thunder- current
                        2011 Mavs- current
                        2010 Lakers- current
                        2010 Celtics- current
                        2009 Magic- current
                        2008 Celtics- 2008 celtics
                        2007 Spurs- 97-98 spurs
                        2007 Cavs- 2007 Cavs
                        2006 Heat- 2006 heat
                        2006 Mavs- 2003 Mavs
                        2005 Pistons- current
                        2004 Pistons- 2004 Pistons
                        2004 Lakers- 97-98 Lakers
                        2003 Nets- current
                        2001 Lakers- 2001 Lakers
                        2001 76ers- 2001 76ers
                        2000 Pacers- current
                        1999 Knicks- current
                        1998 Bulls- 1998 Bulls
                        1998 Jazz- 1998 Jazz
                        1997 Bulls- current
                        1997 Jazz- current
                        1996 Bulls- 1996 Bulls
                        1996 Sonics- 1996 Sonics
                        1995 Magic- 1995 Magic
                        1995 Rockets- Current
                        1994 Rockets- 1994 Rockets
                        1994 Knicks- 1994 Knicks
                        1993 Bulls- 1993 Bulls
                        1993 Suns- current
                        1992 Blazers- current
                        1991 Lakers- 1991 Lakers
                        1991 Bulls- 1991 Bulls
                        1990 Blazers- 1991 Blazers
                        1989 Pistons- 1989 Pistons
                        1987 Lakers- 1987 Lakers
                        1986 Celtics- 1986 Celtics
                        Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 06:17 PM.

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                        • Jaiveer
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 1460

                          #27
                          Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                          Originally posted by Coachjosh21
                          Using Javieer's idea of not using every team if they made the finals for multiple years, here are the teams we can create and the slots we could use for teams. We can go back pretty far just using current teams and classic teams already made by 2k.


                          2015 Warriors- current slot
                          2015 Cavs- current
                          2014 Spurs- current
                          2013 Heat- 2013 heat
                          2012 Thunder- current
                          2011 Mavs- current
                          2010 Lakers- current
                          2010 Celtics- current
                          2009 Magic- current
                          2008 Celtics- 2008 celtics
                          2007 Spurs- 97-98 spurs
                          2007 Cavs- 2007 Cavs
                          2006 Heat- 2006 heat
                          2006 Mavs- 2003 Mavs
                          2005 Pistons- current
                          2004 Pistons- 2004 Pistons
                          2004 Lakers- 97-98 Lakers
                          2003 Nets- current
                          2001 Lakers- 2001 Lakers
                          2001 76ers- 2001 76ers
                          2000 Pacers- current
                          1999 Knicks- current
                          1998 Bulls- 1998 Bulls
                          1998 Jazz- 1998 Jazz
                          1997 Bulls- current
                          1997 Jazz- current
                          1996 Bulls- 1996 Bulls
                          1996 Sonics- 1996 Sonics
                          1995 Magic- 1995 Magic
                          1995 Rockets- Current
                          1994 Rockets- 1994 Rockets
                          1994 Knicks- 1994 Knicks
                          1993 Bulls- 1993 Bulls
                          1993 Suns- current
                          1992 Blazers- current
                          1991 Lakers- 1991 Lakers
                          1991 Bulls- 1991 Bulls
                          1990 Blazers- 1991 Blazers
                          1989 Pistons- 1989 Pistons
                          1987 Lakers- 1987 Lakers
                          1986 Celtics- 1986 Celtics
                          Maybe have 95 rockets on 94 and 86 on current so we get to play with Sampson and drexler is there as well. 94 is in the game so yeah and is this for 2k17 or 2k16?

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                          • Coachjosh21
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 193

                            #28
                            Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                            Originally posted by Jaiveer
                            Maybe have 95 rockets on 94 and 86 on current so we get to play with Sampson and drexler is there as well. 94 is in the game so yeah and is this for 2k17 or 2k16?
                            For sure, I'm open to switching things around. I think this is a good first project to do now on 2k16. We can just go one team at a time. However many we get done is fine, but the more playable teams, the better!

                            Meanwhile there's also people working on a spreadsheet that will be a reference for all roster makers. If anyone has this already, please speak up! We are going to pour a lot of hours into making it and it will save everyone time and will result in a quicker turnaround for future rosters!
                            Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 07:13 PM.

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                            • Coachjosh21
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 193

                              #29
                              Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                              After thinking about it for a few minutes, I think small projects like this are good for 2k16. Gives people time to enjoy the rosters before moving on to 2k17. Whenever 2k17 comes out, we just stop making 2k16 rosters.


                              The big goal for 2k17 should be to provide season rosters with corresponding draft classes starting with the most recent season. With a release and more forum traffic, hopefully we can recruit even more help. Then it seems we'll have contributors for fictional draft classes as well. Using classic rosters, fictional draft makers can make realistic player models and probably at a faster rate. Then we benefit by having a ton of fictional drafts! Win-win!
                              Last edited by Coachjosh21; 05-03-2016, 07:35 PM.

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                              • Jaiveer
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 1460

                                #30
                                Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                                Originally posted by Coachjosh21
                                For sure, I'm open to switching things around. I think this is a good first project to do now on 2k16. We can just go one team at a time. However many we get done is fine, but the more playable teams, the better!

                                Meanwhile there's also people working on a spreadsheet that will be a reference for all roster makers. If anyone has this already, please speak up! We are going to pour a lot of hours into making it and it will save everyone time and will result in a quicker turnaround for future rosters!
                                Cool, let me know when we will work on this and which roster we should use as a base.

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