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  • Coachjosh21
    Rookie
    • Feb 2014
    • 193

    #106
    Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

    The discussion for 2k17 rosters hasn't died. We just moved it to groupme so it's easier to communicate. We are constructing a spreadsheet that will have ratings, tendencies, badges and everything else you need to edit a roster across all platforms. There's lots of research to be done for CAPS, sigs, transaction history and vitals. So the more help we get, the faster we can churn out rosters for 2k17!

    PM me or Vizzy for a link to groupme to join the conversation.

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    • kinglebron76
      Rookie
      • Nov 2010
      • 17

      #107
      Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

      I have an excel document with the ratings from 1950 to today refering on stats for each players and tendencies (just freelance tendencies).

      If you want it, i'm ready to share it with you.

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      • SonicMage
        NBA Ratings Wizard
        • Oct 2002
        • 3544

        #108
        Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

        Originally posted by kinglebron76
        I have an excel document with the ratings from 1950 to today refering on stats for each players and tendencies (just freelance tendencies).

        If you want it, i'm ready to share it with you.
        Sent you a PM.
        NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

        Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
        Link to Ratings 1996-2017
        Link to Ratings 1973-1996
        Link to Ratings All-time

        Discussion found here

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        • VizzyXV
          MVP
          • Dec 2012
          • 1948

          #109
          Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

          Bump

          We are making decent progress but there is still a fair bit to do, if anyone wants to contribute their ideas or help the project hit me up in inbox

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          • Clutch0z
            MVP
            • Oct 2014
            • 1400

            #110
            Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

            I will help if needed ...One thing i am wishing 2k17 does is let us edit the ages again for the Historic players like Shaq/T-Mac/Carter/Iverson/Kobe...So we can make a ultimate roster to play with in My Gm/ My League...If we can edit ages in 2k17 we should do a early 2000's Roster with All Draft Classes Leading up to now.

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            • VizzyXV
              MVP
              • Dec 2012
              • 1948

              #111
              Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

              Originally posted by Clutch0z
              I will help if needed ...One thing i am wishing 2k17 does is let us edit the ages again for the Historic players like Shaq/T-Mac/Carter/Iverson/Kobe...So we can make a ultimate roster to play with in My Gm/ My League...If we can edit ages in 2k17 we should do a early 2000's Roster with All Draft Classes Leading up to now.
              Yeah being unable to edit ages was a really wtf moment lmao, like I don't see a reason why we aren't allowed to

              That is our plan actually, so we'd love to hear your ideas for it, do you have a groupme account?

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              • YogurtProducer
                Pro
                • Sep 2012
                • 508

                #112
                Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                I was just playing with VTCRB's college roster and it had me thinking.

                Make a roster of real or fictional college players on the 30 NBA teams all aged 33/34/35 or higher (depending on testing) with peak start at age 37/38. This should simulate players "declaring for the draft" through retiring and being the best they could be if they make it to their senior year.

                If 1/4 of the league retires you should be able to replenish the league with the 150 prospects that come out of the following Draft Class through both the draft and free agency. Obviously these DCs would need to have all players aged 33+ or whatever as well.

                Now obviously this wouldn't directly replicate college ball or college recruiting season as the worst team rarely gets the nations #1 prospect but it could be fun nonetheless. I am not sure if my thoughts are being translated into this idea very well but it sounds like something that could be successful.

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                • Spartan Warrior
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 564

                  #113
                  Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                  Idea I got from the Bill Simmons Book of Basketball: "What If?" scenarios for each franchise. Stuff like:

                  -What if the Blazers had drafted Michael Jordan instead of Sam Bowie?

                  -What if the Pistons had drafted Carmello Anthony instead of Darko?

                  -What if the Magic had kept Chris Webber with Shaq?

                  -What if the Magic had landed Tim Duncan in free agency in 2000?

                  -What if the Grizzlies had won the draft lottery and gotten LeBron?

                  -What if Kobe had been traded (there are like 50 of these that you could do, Bulls, Pistons, there was even a Kobe for LeBron trade that was discussed in 2007)?

                  I'm just getting back into 2K after years away so I wouldn't be the right person to do this, but would be a fun idea that I don't think has been done before.

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                  • Jaiveer
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1460

                    #114
                    Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                    Originally posted by Spartan Warrior
                    Idea I got from the Bill Simmons Book of Basketball: "What If?" scenarios for each franchise. Stuff like:

                    -What if the Blazers had drafted Michael Jordan instead of Sam Bowie?

                    -What if the Pistons had drafted Carmello Anthony instead of Darko?

                    -What if the Magic had kept Chris Webber with Shaq?

                    -What if the Magic had landed Tim Duncan in free agency in 2000?

                    -What if the Grizzlies had won the draft lottery and gotten LeBron?

                    -What if Kobe had been traded (there are like 50 of these that you could do, Bulls, Pistons, there was even a Kobe for LeBron trade that was discussed in 2007)?

                    I'm just getting back into 2K after years away so I wouldn't be the right person to do this, but would be a fun idea that I don't think has been done before.
                    It's a great idea! Maybe after we do a season roster we do some what if scenarios?

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                    • Spartan Warrior
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 564

                      #115
                      Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                      There are so many you can do.

                      -The Pistons almost got Allen Iverson in a trade in early 2000s.

                      -The Hawks drafting Chris Paul.

                      -The Mavs re-signing Steve Nash in 2005.

                      -Celtics win the 1997 Lottery and get Tim Duncan.

                      -For the 1986 Celtics team you could do what if Len Bias didn't die.

                      -What if Grant Hill had stayed healthy? Can either do him at full strength with T-Mac or do if the Magic had landed Duncan instead of T-Mac in free agency that year.

                      -Jason Kidd traded to the Spurs for Tony Parker.

                      -What if Shaq and Kobe had been able to keep it together?

                      -There are a ton of Garnett ones. I think he almost got dealt to the Lakers instead of the Celtics in 2007?

                      -Stern not vetoing the CP3 trade to the Lakers.

                      -Hornets keeping Kobe instead of trading him to the Lakers.

                      -Michael Ray Richardson staying off drugs. Could have been an all-time point guard.

                      -Wizards keeping Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace, and Juwan Howard together.

                      -Blazers draft Durant instead of Oden.

                      -Suns winning the coin toss for the 1969 #1 pick and getting Kareem.

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                      • calebpits
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 7

                        #116
                        Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                        I'm on XB1 and I can make CAPs. I'd also like to work on the all-time franchise rosters as I've been doing that the past couple of years.

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                        • DiceMan
                          NBA All Life Team
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2050

                          #117
                          Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                          Is this still happening?
                          PSN: DoubleLGetsBusy
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                          4 Life.....

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                          • Justin1555
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 865

                            #118
                            Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                            Originally posted by Coachjosh21
                            Hi all, here is an expanded outline of what we hope to accomplish in 2k17. Please look over and give your thoughts.

                            Goals
                            Create season rosters for 2016-1984 starting on opening day
                            Create playoff rosters for 2016-1984
                            Create accompanying draft classes for each year
                            Keep 2016-17 roster updated once a week throughout season with current transactions, accessories, ratings etc.
                            Draft classes for 2017-2020
                            Updated draft classes after combine and draft declarations in May
                            Fictional draft classes that compliment each other and go with 2016-17 roster
                            Other rosters can be created off all the accumulated caps from season rosters including:
                            Best teams of all time
                            Best players of each franchise
                            Best 500 players for fantasy draft
                            And so on...

                            Project Teams to be formed and a general timeline
                            - Research and collecting team - starting immediately
                            - Spreadsheet input team - starting immediately
                            - 2017-2020 draft class creation team - starting immediately (research and starting spreadsheet)
                            - Fictional draft class creation team - starting immediately (creating player types and starting spreadsheet)
                            - ***Launch day spreadsheet for Sonic - starting on launch day
                            - CAPS appearance creation team - starting after completion of launch day spreadsheet
                            2k editing and inputting team from spreadsheet - after caps and spreadsheets are complete
                            - ps4
                            - Xbox
                            - PC
                            - PS3
                            - Xbox 360
                            Gameplay testing team - after editing has begun
                            - ps4
                            - Xbox
                            - PC
                            - PS3
                            - Xbox 360

                            ***everybody needs to do this to speed up the process and give completed spreadsheet to sonic asap on launch day. We can't edit rosters until we know the formulas!

                            Season Rosters Project Lists, Tasks and Approximate Timelines
                            This is an updated project list just for creating season rosters. Other projects can follow a similar outline. Each portion of the roster making process is labelled its own project and has its own tasks.

                            Projects that can start immediately (any volunteers?!)

                            Spreadsheet template creation
                            These are all separate spreadsheets that need to be made. Here the categories:
                            - List of all players organized by opening day team and year (note all caps needed)
                            - vitals
                            - contracts
                            - subjective player ratings, tendencies, badges
                            - staff ratings, tendencies, POE, coaching sliders
                            - accessories
                            - play types and playbooks
                            - sigs
                            - gameplay settings and sliders

                            Research and Spreadsheet input
                            - vitals of all players
                            - contracts
                            - subjective player ratings, tendencies and badges
                            - staff ratings, tendencies, POE, coaching sliders
                            - accessories
                            - play types

                            Research and collect
                            - photos of faces for CAP creation
                            - pics and vids for sig shots, moves and finishes
                            - list of transactions for each season going back to 1984

                            Other tasks
                            - find spreadsheets already created from past roster makers
                            - recruit more roster editors
                            - assign positions and teams


                            Launch Day Projects (9/25)
                            - input every category, player and number value from 2k into spreadsheet
                            - SonicMage then will apply new 2k17 formulas to past player stats to generate ratings, tendencies and badges

                            Projects that can start after completing 2k17 launch day spreadsheet (9/26)
                            - CAP appearance creation
                            - post documented video and pics for created caps
                            - identifying sig shots, moves and finishes and put on spreadsheet
                            - go through, clean up and make note of playbook edits on spreadsheet

                            Projects that can start after discovering formulas (10/15)
                            - compile subjective ratings, tendencies and badges with sonic's statistically identified ratings into spreadsheet for easy input

                            Projects that can start after opening day roster comes out (10/27)
                            - add caps to season roster
                            - begin editing 2k roster based on spreadsheet (team composition, players, coach settings, playbooks)

                            Projects that can start after roster is edited (11/15)
                            - Sim seasons and compare stats
                            - Gameplay testing for cpu v cpu
                            - Gameplay testing for cpu v user
                            - edit players numbers accordingly
                            - edit gameplay settings and sliders accordingly
                            - upload to 2k
                            - post roster on OS listing all settings and info
                            I have 2 of these complete for ps4 top 500 players all time fantast draft and all time best franchise players.
                            Last edited by Justin1555; 11-30-2016, 10:00 AM.

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                            • Mopbucket97
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 7

                              #119
                              Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

                              Hey guys, I'm currently making 2010-2016 draft classes on xbone, any extra resources you don't mind sharing could really help out!

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