Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

What tendency is in between the dish and touches? Flashy pass?

It's actually an alternate Dish tendency. I was kind of torn between two different formulas. I'm actually leaning towards the second one (the one with no "Dish" label) now.

Tried out one game. Bucks @ Wizards CPU vs CPU, results were better than i thought!! Giannis dominated everybody finished 32 16 7 and John Wall though not shooting well facilitated everything finishing with 5 points 15 assists while Beal took the scoring load wth 33 points. Gonna test out more teams later tonight

How many shots did Wall take?

Only gripe so far is the floater tendency set to 0. I see a lot of drives end up a pull-up J instead of a layup/floater or in some case a dunk. Stepbacks are kind of non existent. Even with that said these are still the best tendency edits I’ve used.

What sliders are you using? I'd recommend increasing the global Attack, Inside, and Drive sliders to at least 75 each.

One thing I would like to see is dribble/crossover tendency edits as well. Watching CPUvCPU crossovers are non effective, for example Kyrie will do 100 different dribble animations and create 0 separation space.

I have some in-progress position-specific tendencies for dribble moves on the spreadsheet. Go to the "Position Scales" tab (on the bottom). Unless you were already using those; if so, my bad.

[Kendall_Gilbert]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

It's actually an alternate Dish tendency. I was kind of torn between two different formulas. I'm actually leaning towards the second one (the one with no "Dish" label) now.


How many shots did Wall take?


What sliders are you using? I'd recommend increasing the global Attack, Inside, and Drive sliders to at least 75 each.



I have some in-progress position-specific tendencies for dribble moves on the spreadsheet. Go to the "Position Scales" tab (on the bottom). Unless you were already using those; if so, my bad.

John Wall went 1-7 FG, 0-3 3PT and 3-4 FT

[lordflaecko]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

I have some in-progress position-specific tendencies for dribble moves on the spreadsheet. Go to the "Position Scales" tab (on the bottom). Unless you were already using those; if so, my bad.

How do you use the position scale edit? Can you give example? Like all PG will have +30 spin layup?
and also what is A/O? Thank you

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

How do you use the position scale edit? Can you give example? Like all PG will have +30 spin layup?
and also what is A/O? Thank you

Exactly. Whatever a player's layup tendency is, take that, and add or subtract from Euro, Spin, or Hop Step. Also, if you're doing this, I have a system where the highest Layup tendency any player can have is 65. That creates a big difference between Layup and Euro/Spin/Hop Step, so you see more of those different layups.

A/O is the Alley Oop tendency/stat.

[lordflaecko]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Exactly. Whatever a player's layup tendency is, take that, and add or subtract from Euro, Spin, or Hop Step. Also, if you're doing this, I have a system where the highest Layup tendency any player can have is 65. That creates a big difference between Layup and Euro/Spin/Hop Step, so you see more of those different layups.

A/O is the Alley Oop tendency/stat.

Can you give me specific example for your system that the highest allowed is 65? Sorry, I was confused on that part. Thank you so much

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Can you give me specific example for your system that the highest allowed is 65? Sorry, I was confused on that part. Thank you so much

It's no problem, no need to apologize.

The way it works is that the tendency for normal layups (it's called "Driving Layup" in the game) will never be higher than 65 for any player. So, anyone who has a 66 or higher on the spreadsheet, they'll get bumped down to 65. Anyone 64 or lower will have the same value as on the spreadsheet.

Then, when you scale for position, say you're doing a point guard who has a 75 layup tendency. Here's what you'd do:

Spin Layup: 75 plus 30 (which equals 99, since it adds up to 105 but the highest possible value is 99)

Euro Layup: Same as above, 75 plus 30

Hop Step Layup: 75 minus 30 (which equals 45)

So now the tendencies will be:

Driving Layup: 65
Spin Layup: 99
Euro Layup: 99
Hop Step Layup: 45

And you just do the same thing for whichever position someone plays.

Hope I explained that well, feel free to ask any questions you'd like

[lordflaecko]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

It's no problem, no need to apologize.

The way it works is that the tendency for normal layups (it's called "Driving Layup" in the game) will never be higher than 65 for any player. So, anyone who has a 66 or higher on the spreadsheet, they'll get bumped down to 65. Anyone 64 or lower will have the same value as on the spreadsheet.

Then, when you scale for position, say you're doing a point guard who has a 75 layup tendency. Here's what you'd do:

Spin Layup: 75 plus 30 (which equals 99, since it adds up to 105 but the highest possible value is 99)

Euro Layup: Same as above, 75 plus 30

Hop Step Layup: 75 minus 30 (which equals 45)

So now the tendencies will be:

Driving Layup: 65
Spin Layup: 99
Euro Layup: 99
Hop Step Layup: 45

And you just do the same thing for whichever position someone plays.

Hope I explained that well, feel free to ask any questions you'd like

Oh, wow. Thank you so much for this concrete example! So, to make sure I did understand it correctly, when a driving layup is above 65 it will be converted back to 65 and then the other components of layups will stay at is. If his original driving layup is 75, it will be use as the base for every layup except driving layup which gonna be converted to 65. Is my understanding correct? Thank you for your work, btw.

Edit: would you consider Ben Simmons as PG for this position scale? Thank you.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Oh, wow. Thank you so much for this concrete example! So, to make sure I did understand it correctly, when a driving layup is above 65 it will be converted back to 65 and then the other components of layups will stay at is. If his original driving layup is 75, it will be use as the base for every layup except driving layup which gonna be converted to 65. Is my understanding correct? Thank you for your work, btw.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Edit: would you consider Ben Simmons as PG for this position scale? Thank you.

That's a good question. I'd probably say yes, since he has the athleticism and ballhandling of a PG, despite being PF-sized.

Another exception I think would be Giannis. I'd probably use the PG settings for him because of how elusive he is on drives.

[atlplayboy23]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Do you have anything for the shot tendency

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[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Do you have anything for the shot tendency

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Unfortunately, no. I can't remember why, but I never got around to it. I could try to cook something up though. I'll keep you guys updated.

[lordflaecko]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Unfortunately, no. I can't remember why, but I never got around to it. I could try to cook something up though. I'll keep you guys updated.

Looking forward on this one. I always had a game (cpu vs cpu) where simmons always took more shots than Embiid, for example.

Btw, which one am I going to use for Drive and Dish? The original or the alt? Thanks

[atlplayboy23]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

I played against the Lakers and Green shot everytime he touched the ball especially from 3

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[Kendall_Gilbert]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

Hey man you have done an awesome job so far! If you need help I would love to help and can you give updates on what you're working on or looking at?

[ffaacc03]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

I played against the Lakers and Green shot everytime he touched the ball especially from 3

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That is not related to the shot tendency tho, more like a shot location tendency issue.

[atlplayboy23]

Re: Made a spreadsheet for what I consider the most important tendencies. Feedback?

I think he took way more shots then he would normally take

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