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  • CallMeSonic
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    • Jan 2019
    • 8

    #16
    Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

    Hey guys,

    great to hear that you are working on some realistic gameplay with a lot of love for the detail! Big fan of that!

    I know it's a lot of work but are you planning to complete the roster until the Wizards?

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    • Comduklakis
      MVP
      • Oct 2005
      • 1887

      #17
      Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

      Originally posted by Tynole14
      A lot of NBA.com and Basketball Reference. And looking alot of numbers. Lol. But we are mostly doing a lot of testing/ watching . What tendency does what during the game. And also, watching a lot of games on League Pass!

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      that is fantastic to hear. so much data out there to show how players tendencies REALLY are instead of perceptions. And attributes. For example the perception is that Reggie Jackson is a great finisher in the paint. And the 2k roster and many other created rosters reflect this. Reality is the guy has been sub 50% at the rim for years.

      What is frustrating is with all that data it should be super easy for 2k to have quality rosters with spot on tendencies, hot zones, attributes, etc. It's all out there and one person using the quick edit function can edit a team in a couple hours. Assuming 2k already knows their scales and what each badge does, it boggles my mind that a team getting paid can't do the same. Instead we get weirdness like 99% of the non bigs having a ridiculously high right center 3 point tendency. And this hasn't been fixed to my knowledge. It is laziness like that that frustrates non-casual players like myself who love so much about the game and are just looking for that final step in roster/sliders to make it the most amazing gaming experience they have released.
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      • Tynole14
        MVP
        • Jul 2019
        • 2179

        #18
        Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

        Originally posted by Comduklakis
        that is fantastic to hear. so much data out there to show how players tendencies REALLY are instead of perceptions. And attributes. For example the perception is that Reggie Jackson is a great finisher in the paint. And the 2k roster and many other created rosters reflect this. Reality is the guy has been sub 50% at the rim for years.



        What is frustrating is with all that data it should be super easy for 2k to have quality rosters with spot on tendencies, hot zones, attributes, etc. It's all out there and one person using the quick edit function can edit a team in a couple hours. Assuming 2k already knows their scales and what each badge does, it boggles my mind that a team getting paid can't do the same. Instead we get weirdness like 99% of the non bigs having a ridiculously high right center 3 point tendency. And this hasn't been fixed to my knowledge. It is laziness like that that frustrates non-casual players like myself who love so much about the game and are just looking for that final step in roster/sliders to make it the most amazing gaming experience they have released.
        Yes, it's absolutely embarrassing that people actually get paid to put out this 2k roster. There's SO much to fix with this roster. And it's hard for just us two guys who have full time jobs and bills to pay to be doing this as well. And we are trying our very best to look at percentages for and attempt rates for tendencies and attributes.

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        • Tynole14
          MVP
          • Jul 2019
          • 2179

          #19
          Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

          Originally posted by CallMeSonic
          Hey guys,



          great to hear that you are working on some realistic gameplay with a lot of love for the detail! Big fan of that!



          I know it's a lot of work but are you planning to complete the roster until the Wizards?
          And yes, we are going in order starting with 76ers. When we finish the Wizards we only have testing to do! [emoji106]

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          • Tynole14
            MVP
            • Jul 2019
            • 2179

            #20
            Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

            Update!
            Officially want to thank @sifu25 ! He will be working on accessories and shoes on the roster! This roster will be legit , guys!

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            • MDgolf
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1421

              #21
              Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

              Will three work on pro skill
              Level? I’m not very good


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              • Tynole14
                MVP
                • Jul 2019
                • 2179

                #22
                Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                Originally posted by MDgolf
                Will three work on pro skill
                Level? I’m not very good


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                Yes, what you have to do is leave your game difficulty on pro then download my latest cpu/user sliders that I upload when the roster comes out!

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                • CaseIH
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 3945

                  #23
                  Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                  Originally posted by Comduklakis
                  that is fantastic to hear. so much data out there to show how players tendencies REALLY are instead of perceptions. And attributes. For example the perception is that Reggie Jackson is a great finisher in the paint. And the 2k roster and many other created rosters reflect this. Reality is the guy has been sub 50% at the rim for years.

                  What is frustrating is with all that data it should be super easy for 2k to have quality rosters with spot on tendencies, hot zones, attributes, etc. It's all out there and one person using the quick edit function can edit a team in a couple hours. Assuming 2k already knows their scales and what each badge does, it boggles my mind that a team getting paid can't do the same. Instead we get weirdness like 99% of the non bigs having a ridiculously high right center 3 point tendency. And this hasn't been fixed to my knowledge. It is laziness like that that frustrates non-casual players like myself who love so much about the game and are just looking for that final step in roster/sliders to make it the most amazing gaming experience they have released.



                  I agree its ridiculous that 2k has such crappy rosters ratings, especially when it actually effects the gameplay of the game, and to a extent the sim stats as well, but there is a few stats in My League, that no amount of editing will fix, and its a sim engine issue.
                  But I wouldnt say its laziness that the tendencies and in some cases attribute ratings are so screwed up. I think the blame is on the owners/ Executives at the company who are to blame, as they likely dont want to spend the money, due to the hours that has to be put in to fine tune ratings, and tendencies.

                  They know were still going to buy the game, and that people are going to do the work to fix tendencies and attribute ratings, so they see putting out a game with poorly done tendencies and ratings as not effecting their bottom line.

                  Plus us hardcore basketball fans, who in a lot of ways is what made NBA2k and ran EA's NBA Live out of business basically. But were a dying breed of gamers, as this younger generation as a whole dont play My League, nor do they care about sim stats. They are online players, who are more concerned in fantasy modes like My Team, and/or playing dress up Barbie with their My Player, and playing basically a NBA Jam like game, where they can run around some virtual world, playing tag, dodge ball, and whatever other ridiculous thing they have in whats suppose to be a NBA simulation They see this type of crap making them richer by the minute, so to hell with us actual hardcore basketball fans of the NBA, who want a realistic version of the NBA.



                  I think there is some guys at NBA2k who probably would like a better simulation, and a sim engine that work accurately, but Im sure they are told, where to allot their time on making the game, and us hardcore basketball fans, that made the company are getting screwed because of it.



                  These good roster editors out there, will tell you they put a few hundred hours at least into trying to fix this game. Between all the studyng of all the statistics and analytics and then coming up with a formula and then inputting it into the games tendency and attribute ratings.



                  Also the company probably figures, there would still be some people complaining about ratings, and tendencies, so they probably figure since they dont see it as making them money, so they dont spend much time in getting it right. Although I think if they did it right, and the sim engine was accurately reflecting how it is IRL, the complaints would be few and far between.


                  IMO this is 1 area of the game, that could be perfected, if they would just put the time in, where as the actual gameplay will likely never be perfectd to the point of not having any complaints. And considering you supposedly pride yourself on making a realistic simulation of the NBA,( which we know is a lie and false advertising because if it were true, we wouldnt talking about this, nor would people be trying to fix the game by editing rosters), then you should either change your advertising of a NBA sim, and call it what it is a basketball version of streetball, playing at the YMCA, and playing basketball version of dress up Barbie.


                  If I had a son, and I saw him worrying about dressing up his My Player, I would be a little bit concerned, and I will just leave it at that, otherwise, I would get banned probably if I say anymore on this with how things are now day in this world
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                  • Tynole14
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 2179

                    #24
                    Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                    Originally posted by CaseIH
                    I agree its ridiculous that 2k has such crappy rosters ratings, especially when it actually effects the gameplay of the game, and to a extent the sim stats as well, but there is a few stats in My League, that no amount of editing will fix, and its a sim engine issue.
                    But I wouldnt say its laziness that the tendencies and in some cases attribute ratings are so screwed up. I think the blame is on the owners/ Executives at the company who are to blame, as they likely dont want to spend the money, due to the hours that has to be put in to fine tune ratings, and tendencies.

                    They know were still going to buy the game, and that people are going to do the work to fix tendencies and attribute ratings, so they see putting out a game with poorly done tendencies and ratings as not effecting their bottom line.

                    Plus us hardcore basketball fans, who in a lot of ways is what made NBA2k and ran EA's NBA Live out of business basically. But were a dying breed of gamers, as this younger generation as a whole dont play My League, nor do they care about sim stats. They are online players, who are more concerned in fantasy modes like My Team, and/or playing dress up Barbie with their My Player, and playing basically a NBA Jam like game, where they can run around some virtual world, playing tag, dodge ball, and whatever other ridiculous thing they have in whats suppose to be a NBA simulation They see this type of crap making them richer by the minute, so to hell with us actual hardcore basketball fans of the NBA, who want a realistic version of the NBA.



                    I think there is some guys at NBA2k who probably would like a better simulation, and a sim engine that work accurately, but Im sure they are told, where to allot their time on making the game, and us hardcore basketball fans, that made the company are getting screwed because of it.



                    These good roster editors out there, will tell you they put a few hundred hours at least into trying to fix this game. Between all the studyng of all the statistics and analytics and then coming up with a formula and then inputting it into the games tendency and attribute ratings.



                    Also the company probably figures, there would still be some people complaining about ratings, and tendencies, so they probably figure since they dont see it as making them money, so they dont spend much time in getting it right. Although I think if they did it right, and the sim engine was accurately reflecting how it is IRL, the complaints would be few and far between.


                    IMO this is 1 area of the game, that could be perfected, if they would just put the time in, where as the actual gameplay will likely never be perfectd to the point of not having any complaints. And considering you supposedly pride yourself on making a realistic simulation of the NBA,( which we know is a lie and false advertising because if it were true, we wouldnt talking about this, nor would people be trying to fix the game by editing rosters), then you should either change your advertising of a NBA sim, and call it what it is a basketball version of streetball, playing at the YMCA, and playing basketball version of dress up Barbie.


                    If I had a son, and I saw him worrying about dressing up his My Player, I would be a little bit concerned, and I will just leave it at that, otherwise, I would get banned probably if I say anymore on this with how things are now day in this world
                    I agree with what you said on the my player behalf. I just don't see what's so great about it. I'm an NBA basketball fan. I love watching it, talk about it, and study it. And me as a player of 2k, j really want to feel like I'm playing LeBron, Kawhi, or Harden. I want to see the Celtics to run a lot pick and rolls against me. I want to see the Sun's perfecting cutting plays against me. I want a realistic NBA basketball game.

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                    • XxVal_MarXx
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 1514

                      #25
                      Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                      this list is fantastic and I can't wait for the final version to come out so I can enter the final mylegue
                      I appreciate your hard work
                      Last edited by XxVal_MarXx; 12-03-2019, 03:28 PM.
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                      • XxVal_MarXx
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 1514

                        #26
                        Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                        I played two quick games with your roster and sliders and I enjoyed it, the gameplay is fantastic and I see the real NBA
                        Waiting for the final version
                        Excuse the repetition but here we need to enjoy the game and play like the nba, you are reproducing all this and you can't wait to start playing seriously

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                        Last edited by XxVal_MarXx; 12-03-2019, 03:35 PM.
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                        • Tynole14
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 2179

                          #27
                          Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                          Originally posted by XxVal_MarXx
                          I played two quick games with your roster and sliders and I enjoyed it, the gameplay is fantastic and I see the real NBA
                          Waiting for the final version
                          Excuse the repetition but here we need to enjoy the game and play like the nba, you are reproducing all this and you can't wait to start playing seriously

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                          Thanks man. But I haven't released the roster to anyone yet on here. I'm guessing you did use the right roster though. Glad you enjoyed it but i do want people to wait till it's completely finished. So everyone will get the full feel of the roster. It plays like the actual NBA . It's tons of fun. Btw Go Magic!

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                          • XxVal_MarXx
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 1514

                            #28
                            Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                            Originally posted by Tynole14
                            Thanks man. But I haven't released the roster to anyone yet on here. I'm guessing you did use the right roster though. Glad you enjoyed it but i do want people to wait till it's completely finished. So everyone will get the full feel of the roster. It plays like the actual NBA . It's tons of fun. Btw Go Magic!

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                            Yes I used your Gamertag, yes yes I know that the list is not finished yet, it was only to prove how he played the game with your work
                            And I must say that I enjoyed it a lot
                            When the list is finished probably the magic will be my team to bring it into the play offs

                            Sorry for my English
                            Go Magic [emoji106]

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                            Last edited by XxVal_MarXx; 12-03-2019, 04:11 PM.
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                            • Tynole14
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2019
                              • 2179

                              #29
                              Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                              Originally posted by XxVal_MarXx
                              Yes I used your Gamertag, yes yes I know that the list is not finished yet, it was only to prove how he played the game with your work
                              And I must say that I enjoyed it a lot
                              When the list is finished probably the magic will be my team to bring it into the play offs

                              Sorry for my English
                              Go Magic [emoji106]

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                              Awesome man! Glad you enjoyed it! [emoji106]

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                              • Tynole14
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2019
                                • 2179

                                #30
                                Re: Most Realistic Current Gameplay Roster (PS4)

                                Just an update on the roster. It's just getting better and better. Players are a lot smarter. The ball really moves with speed. Always been a 2k problem that the ball doesn't move as fast as the players. Passing should be faster than movement. And that is exactly happening in the roster. The guys really zip the ball around. Can't sleep on defense or they will make you pay!

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