3 point attempts statistics

[Ed21]

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I'm happy you guys seem to be on to something here but why isn't at least the study/coach tendency part of this over in the General Discussion area?

The game just launched and if 3 point attempts are really as low as everyone claims them to be, this really needs to be seen by a Dev and get patched.

I posted in the bugs and glitches thread hoping someone would see it and balance it out with a patch.

[antdoggydogg]

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I'm happy you guys seem to be on to something here but why isn't at least the study/coach tendency part of this over in the General Discussion area?

The game just launched and if 3 point attempts are really as low as everyone claims them to be, this really needs to be seen by a Dev and get patched.

I feel like the Inside/Outside coaching slider isnt broken, I just think the choices that the roster maker made when deciding each coach's preferences, were incorrect. But the main problem is we shouldnt have to adjust the 3point tendency slider to 100 in order to get a normal number of attempts. Now that's just ridiculous.

[Ed21]

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I feel like the Inside/Outside coaching slider isnt broken, I just think the choices that the roster maker made when deciding each coach's preferences, were incorrect. But the main problem is we shouldnt have to adjust the 3point tendency slider to 100 in order to get a normal number of attempts. Now that's just ridiculous.

What have you got the attack the basket slider set on?

[antdoggydogg]

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What have you got the attack the basket slider set on?

I have it set to 50. I just lowered the CPU's close shot tendency to 30, since its the least attempted shot in the league. I have Inside at 60, Mid Range at 60 and 3 point at 100. Its a good mixture. The game would probably be less fun if I didn't have to seriously make an effort to protect the paint. I like that seeing James Harden sizing up his defender strikes fear in my heart cause I know he has the potential to break down my entire defense if he gets a step on his guy.

[L_Diddy]

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I actually did up a spread sheet last year with every team and their average shot attempts per game from each location (at the rim, close, mid,3pt). Looks like might have to try implement into my roster. cheers

[CujoMatty]

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could you share that info please?

[CujoMatty]

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I just played a game against the suns and through the first quarter the cpu only had one three point attempt. the cpu was killing me with back door cuts so in a timeout I changed every players offball defensive assignment to "gap" in order to sag off and stop all the backdoor cuts. what I discovered is the cpu shot way more threes. they finished with 26 attempts which is by far the most ive seen by a lot.

[Poke]

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I think you guys are putting too much thought into this. Averages are just that, averages! This doesn't mean that teams are going to shoot that many threes every game or on against your team with your style of defense. Teams take what they get. If you can't protect the paint then don't expect them to shoot outside. All of my games vary. Sometimes teams shoot a lot sometimes they don't but it's not to the point where it's unreal. On the other hand I think it would be unreal for them to hoist shots up just for the sake of trying to mimic the real life nba to a T. This is a videogame and no game is ever going to be EXACTLY 100 percent like real life.




Rank Team. 2013. Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2012
1 Houston 26.5 24.0 19.0 27.0 26.0 29.2
2 Atlanta 26.4 35.3 44.0 25.8 26.8 22.9
3 Phoenix 25.1 21.0 20.0 24.8 25.4 17.7
4 Portland 25.0 21.0 19.0 24.9 25.1 23.2
5 Golden State 25.0 25.0 25.0 24.7 25.2 20.2
6 New York 24.9 21.0 17.0 25.0 24.7 28.2
7 LA Lakers 24.8 26.0 27.0 25.2 24.4 24.3
8 LA Clippers 24.2 23.0 21.0 23.5 24.9 21.2
9 Denver 23.9 28.3 34.0 24.2 23.5 18.8
10 Brooklyn 23.3 23.0 22.0 22.8 23.8 21.3
11 Toronto 23.2 21.0 13.0 23.8 22.6 20.3
12 Dallas 22.9 23.7 25.0 22.8 23.0 19.9
13 Okla City 22.6 22.3 27.0 21.4 23.8 20.0
14 Philadelphia 22.5 20.0 23.0 22.4 22.7 17.5
15 Miami 22.5 20.7 22.0 21.8 23.2 21.7
16 Minnesota. 21.5 20.7 25.0 20.5 22.4 18.0
17 San Antonio 21.4 22.3 21.0 21.4 21.4 21.4
18 Boston 21.1 28.0 30.0 21.8 20.4 17.4
19 Washington 20.3 17.0 18.0 19.4 21.2 18.2
20 Cleveland 20.0 19.3 20.0 19.9 20.1 19.3
21 Orlando 19.5 16.7 15.0 19.2 19.7 18.7
22 Detroit 19.3 18.7 19.0 18.9 19.7 17.6
23 Utah 19.2 18.7 24.0 18.8 19.7 16.9
24 Milwaukee 18.9 12.0 18.0 18.8 19.1 20.5
25 Indiana 18.9 22.3 25.0 18.3 19.5 19.6
26 Charlotte 18.1 21.3 25.0 17.7 18.5 17.1
27 Sacramento 18.0 15.0 19.0 18.8 17.2 20.5
28 Chicago 17.9 19.7 16.0 17.3 18.5 15.6
29 New Orleans 15.9 21.0 12.0 15.8 16.0 18.0
30 Memphis. 14.1 16.7 17.0 14.9. 13.3. 13.7

[CujoMatty]

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I get what your saying but up until my game last night the most 3 pointers the cpu had shot was 13. Thats in 25 games. I dont give up too many points in the paint either. Wanting realistic numbers is important to alot of gamers. especially on OS. You read the title of the thread so you had to know it was important to the OP and we are all discussing it and possible fixes because its important to us too.. Im not trying to rag on anyone I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion but I just dont understand why people dont just ignore the threads they dont care about.

[BegBy]

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I think you guys are putting too much thought into this. Averages are just that, averages!

So, if I play 20 games and teams average 11 3-point attempts, then that means that math is working how it should and we can rest easy knowing that tomorrow math will still function properly. Awesome.

It also means that they take too few 3-point shots... I know this because the math (averages!) tells me so.

[lebromelo]

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The outside slider in coaching profile doesn't do much for 3pt attempts. Plus isn't this slider for how the team handles trades in mygm/league? Like higher number for outside slider the comp tries to attain more outside players.

[Poke]

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So, if I play 20 games and teams average 11 3-point attempts, then that means that math is working how it should and we can rest easy knowing that tomorrow math will still function properly. Awesome.

It also means that they take too few 3-point shots... I know this because the math (averages!) tells me so.

No it means they average 11 3pt attempts vs your team and not for the season smart guy. What your team allows isn't their average. And there is no such thing as too few 3pt shots. This fad of high 20's 3pt attempts in NBA is new and in a lot of people's opinion isn't good basketball. A lot of young players are leaving off the fundamentals of the game and are just coming down jacking up shots. I'm not saying this isn't important to some of the posters here I'm just saying enjoy this great basketball game instead of missing out on some fun due to this "issue".

I get all types of shot attempts. Here's a post from one of my games that show they do take more than single digit attempts

[jcmreds]

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I usually see 15-20 3's attempted by the cpu. I usually play protect the paint D. The only issues I have is with me shooting too many lol. I'm a straight up brick layer right now from downtown.

[ParisB]

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I get solid results by using "Simulation/Pro" as default, and then only changing the "Attack the Basket" tendency to 0, and the "take 3 pt shots" to 100.

Don't mess with the other tendency sliders....

And yea, players still attack the basket..at least the ones that should.

[ParisB]

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No it means they average 11 3pt attempts vs your team and not for the season smart guy. What your team allows isn't their average. And there is no such thing as too few 3pt shots. This fad of high 20's 3pt attempts in NBA is new and in a lot of people's opinion isn't good basketball. A lot of young players are leaving off the fundamentals of the game and are just coming down jacking up shots. I'm not saying this isn't important to some of the posters here I'm just saying enjoy this great basketball game instead of missing out on some fun due to this "issue".

I get all types of shot attempts. Here's a post from one of my games that show they do take more than single digit attempts

A little off topic, but "good basketball" is getting a good open shot. That includes 3-pointers, and the NBA is filled with elite shooters. Statistically, a 3-point shot is a better shot than a 2-pointer (unless it's a dunk/layup) if you can hit it over 35% of the time. The NBA is evolving and the offenses are more complex these days, it's not a fad. It's progressing to better basketball.

If a certain player has poor fundamentals and "jacks up shots", that's a him problem. Has nothing to do with 3-pointers.