LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Great work man. From the data, it looks like we could boost player progression. That should fix the average 90+ age.

Btw, do you mind if I link these for my MyLeague sliders?

[jeremym480]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

on ps4 I tried but it tells me no content found

Hmm. . . I don't have access to PSN so I can't check it. Maybe Mike Lowe can give it a look if he sees this. Otherwise, if someone else shares on PSN, I'll put that in the OP.

They're there. I'm not sure where they're at outside of MyLeague because I didn't really look. I had a already started MyLeague so I went to Training and Uploaded them there team-by-team. I think you hit square to pull up the menu, scroll down and to Mike Lowe's, then it triangle to save. It took me about 10 minutes to do all 30 teams.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Sounds as though it's working then. If anyone's having issues, let me know and I can try and find a better way to share it, but as far as I know, that's the only way!

[LorenzoDC]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Great work man. From the data, it looks like we could boost player progression. That should fix the average 90+ age.

Btw, do you mind if I link these for my MyLeague sliders?

Of course! Link away.

As for raising progression, I tried that, but I strongly don't recommend it.

Here's why:

1. Progression doesn't change potential much. Occasionally it does, but not to the degree we would want without making the whole league overpowered.
2. The progression system applies equally to every player in the league, but the problem is that the talent level in the league is too narrow at the top. Think of it like a pyramid. Our problem is not that the pyramid does not go high enough, it's that the top part is just too skinny and pointy.
3. Using the progression slider does not fix that narrow part. This is why Leftos is planning to fix this when he can on the draft class side. Their current algorithms limit 90+ players unless they generate what's called a "legendary draft class," which is one that has a Lebron-like 95-99 potential player. But those types of draft classes don't come often enough to generate enough league stars once the current league stars regress and retire.
4. So what happens is, if you raise progression, you don't really get more 90+ players but you do get a TON more 80+ players. The league becomes overpowered at that point and contracts get too big, leading to CPU cut/trade/cap logic errors.

[jakalfc]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

honestly can not, surely I am that something wrong ....... I go myleague then myleague options and triangle, id online mike lowe 47 and it says it can not exist ...... elencarmi all the steps ... .thank you

[Mike Lowe]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

honestly can not, surely I am that something wrong ....... I go myleague then myleague options and triangle, id online mike lowe 47 and it says it can not exist ...... elencarmi all the steps ... .thank you

MikeLowe47

No spaces...cap sensitive.

[ddurrrr]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

honestly can not, surely I am that something wrong ....... I go myleague then myleague options and triangle, id online mike lowe 47 and it says it can not exist ...... elencarmi all the steps ... .thank you

Don't go to myleague options. Go to training then team traning and hit triangle.

[trekfan]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Of course! Link away.

As for raising progression, I tried that, but I strongly don't recommend it.

Here's why:

1. Progression doesn't change potential much. Occasionally it does, but not to the degree we would want without making the whole league overpowered.
2. The progression system applies equally to every player in the league, but the problem is that the talent level in the league is too narrow at the top. Think of it like a pyramid. Our problem is not that the pyramid does not go high enough, it's that the top part is just too skinny and pointy.
3. Using the progression slider does not fix that narrow part. This is why Leftos is planning to fix this when he can on the draft class side. Their current algorithms limit 90+ players unless they generate what's called a "legendary draft class," which is one that has a Lebron-like 95-99 potential player. But those types of draft classes don't come often enough to generate enough league stars once the current league stars regress and retire.
4. So what happens is, if you raise progression, you don't really get more 90+ players but you do get a TON more 80+ players. The league becomes overpowered at that point and contracts get too big, leading to CPU cut/trade/cap logic errors.

I heartily second this. Raising progression severely skews the league the further you go. It doesn't correct itself either even if you jack up regression because there are always more new/younger players entering the league then there are older/veteran players leaving.

Keep both it and regression at 50 for best results and manually edit the potential of a few.

[Daonlyjmo7]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

This is why Leftos is planning to fix this when he can on the draft class side.
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What is Leftos going to do?

[LorenzoDC]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

What is Leftos going to do?

He responded to the issues I addressed with this slider set.

Link.

The concept of attribute pairs developed in tandem (Open & Contested Mid-Range/Threes) is new, so there might be some further tweaking needed. I've added a couple of tunables which I'm hoping will make it into a patch that will allow us to adjust the progression of those two attribute pairs in the future without the need of further patches, so we can better match the proper numbers without the need for custom training profiles, so you can use training to actually develop teams and players the way you want rather than as workarounds.

Regarding the lack of A+ potential players, one of the next roster updates will include updated templates with higher max potentials for non-once-in-a-generation players so you should see more players eligible to develop into 90+ numbers without manual edits.

[akathejoker]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

He responded to the issues I addressed with this slider set.

Link.

Appreciate the link/info. Think I'm just gonna wait till the patch then to start a genuine League.

[SuperSeahawks]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Just FYI, I messaged Leftos on Twitter asking if these changes would apply to MyLeagues already in progress. Leftos said yes so there would be no need to re-start if you wanted to do a ML now so I started mine with the Sonics last night....

[LorenzoDC]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Just FYI, I messaged Leftos on Twitter asking if these changes would apply to MyLeagues already in progress. Leftos said yes so there would be no need to re-start if you wanted to do a ML now so I started mine with the Sonics last night....

Did he say the changes have already been sent out to consoles?

[SuperSeahawks]

Re: LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

Did he say the changes have already been sent out to consoles?

Not in the message he sent to me. I'm assuming the next patch will have the changes in it.

[xx2khazard]

LorenzoDC's MyLeague Multi-Year Talent Balance Sliders

I'm glad you've fixed the progression. Big win. But how is the regression? Do old yet elite players properly regress or do they fall off a cliff no matter what? If anyone can shed some light on this that'd be great


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