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  • Eggie25
    Pro
    • Aug 2008
    • 730

    #496
    Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

    Originally posted by infemous
    Yeah this is my biggest issue.

    I think its tied to the Hands rating. I'm gonna do my own slider set based off of Eggies and see how they work.

    Currently my biggest issues are:

    Turning the ball over - CPU gets bogus steals, tipping passes and being able to hustle them to a team mate, or I put a dribble move on, its delayed, so he does it 2 secs after and the CPU gets a steal.

    Jumpshooting - I think this may have a lot to do with my timing tbh, but as soon as there is any hint of a contest the shot isn't going in. I'm doing MyLeague with the Wizards and Beal is bricking wide open shots but having signed Michael Beasley he's hitting wide open 3s. No-One can make a contested 3 though, even if you're pretty open and a guy is closing in late, its a brick.

    Body-Up Sensitivity - I feel the recent patches or tuning updates have messed with this. I just can't get around defenders and it really messes things up. I've got drives to the paint glitching so my attacker starts posting up with no-one touching him etc. When I first downloaded your sliders it just felt so perfect.

    Also this might be a difficulty thing, but I just can't seem to win by more than 10. I've had games where I've completely dominated the CPU, lead the game, then everyone goes cold, I'm bricking wide-open shots with hot players and committing the most BS turnovers and letting the CPU back within 5 before closing them off. I feel this is just rubber banding but its really annoying because the turnovers (mainly BS steals) are just such trash and would never happen, especially when you're blowing out trash teams too.

    Anyone else having these problems?
    I got you. It's great that you mentioned this. I started working on this last night but fell out. I don't want the cpu getting crappie Steals. Also I'm going to ease up on the defense a little. It's good that you aren't winning by more than 10. I personally wanted the game to be competitive because some of us can actually beat the cpu by more based on skill level, play style, etc. I myself have personally won by 20 plus several times. The hands aspect was to eliminate pick and roll cheese. I will adjust ball security to help with losing the ball easily. Everyone going cold is more of a 2k thing. I haven't experienced it much because I generally find ways to get easy baskets. I've had other users tell me 3's are too easy to make. So it's a double edged sword lol. Ima work on something to help you Bro.

    You said the game has felt different since the patch came out correct? I can't have 2k throwing my set off.
    Last edited by Eggie25; 02-07-2017, 12:14 PM.

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    • infemous
      MVP
      • Nov 2009
      • 1568

      #497
      Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

      Originally posted by Eggie25
      I got you. It's great that you mentioned this. I started working on this last night but fell out. I don't want the cpu getting crappie Steals. Also I'm going to ease up on the defense a little. It's good that you aren't winning by more than 10. I personally wanted the game to be competitive because some of us can actually beat the cpu by more based on skill level, play style, etc. I myself have personally won by 20 plus several times. The hands aspect was to eliminate pick and roll cheese. I will adjust ball security to help with losing the ball easily. Everyone going cold is more of a 2k thing. I haven't experienced it much because I generally find ways to get easy baskets. I've had other users tell me 3's are too easy to make. So it's a double edged sword lol. Ima work on something to help you Bro.

      You said the game has felt different since the patch came out correct? I can't have 2k throwing my set off.
      Yeah I think its just coz Hands are on 99. Also with the defense having 99 Lateral Quickness I think it makes it very difficult to actually move around them.

      Before that was offset by the body up sensitivity but it feels radically different now post patches. Dribble moves are literally asking for a turnover now and I'm seeing a lot less of the really nice hip riding animations when you get a step on the defender with the hesi and can run by him like before.

      I'll be intrigued to see what results you get.

      Just to check, which mode do you run your tests in? Just so i can see if I can make some personal changes, if this runs great for everyone I don't want to ruin their sliders.

      and ya I just like to score in different ways, and also playing with the Wizards I get a lot of attention driving to the bucket with Wall, so often kick it out to completely wide open guys with decent 3 point ratings but they just brick it.

      and true about beating the CPU by more than 10, its just normally its because of BS and not skill. Like the CPU has beaten me many a time because they have a beast centre just dominating Gortat or Mahimi with post moves, but when I'm bricking completely open 3's with Korver, Beal and/or Wall is just getting tripped up after doing a hesi move while trying to drive to the paint it just feels a bit cheap. Not blaming you though because its probably just rubber banding by 2k.

      I'll post some pics next time I post in here of my progress and some stats from using your sliders bro.

      They're great though, I especially enjoyed them when I first DL'ed them, was really getting good games and all the contact felt so natural, although I haven't downloaded your updated version, I think I downloaded yours like in December?
      Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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      • Eggie25
        Pro
        • Aug 2008
        • 730

        #498
        Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

        Originally posted by infemous
        Yeah I think its just coz Hands are on 99. Also with the defense having 99 Lateral Quickness I think it makes it very difficult to actually move around them.

        Before that was offset by the body up sensitivity but it feels radically different now post patches. Dribble moves are literally asking for a turnover now and I'm seeing a lot less of the really nice hip riding animations when you get a step on the defender with the hesi and can run by him like before.

        I'll be intrigued to see what results you get.

        Just to check, which mode do you run your tests in? Just so i can see if I can make some personal changes, if this runs great for everyone I don't want to ruin their sliders.

        and ya I just like to score in different ways, and also playing with the Wizards I get a lot of attention driving to the bucket with Wall, so often kick it out to completely wide open guys with decent 3 point ratings but they just brick it.

        and true about beating the CPU by more than 10, its just normally its because of BS and not skill. Like the CPU has beaten me many a time because they have a beast centre just dominating Gortat or Mahimi with post moves, but when I'm bricking completely open 3's with Korver, Beal and/or Wall is just getting tripped up after doing a hesi move while trying to drive to the paint it just feels a bit cheap. Not blaming you though because its probably just rubber banding by 2k.

        I'll post some pics next time I post in here of my progress and some stats from using your sliders bro.

        They're great though, I especially enjoyed them when I first DL'ed them, was really getting good games and all the contact felt so natural, although I haven't downloaded your updated version, I think I downloaded yours like in December?
        If the hip riding animation hasn't been happening then that's a big problem for me. I had the game feeling tough and able to get the hip action often enough. 2k is playing games. I usually go into exhibition and tweak. If you said Lateral Quickness is 100 then you have the wrong version. Download the current Eggie. Try that one out. Once you play that one, then let me know how it feels. Game speed 50 for that. It's not the tweaked version. It's the one you should've had. I will still work on this a little though. Thank God you mentioned Lateral Quickness 100. That's how I knew you had the wrong version.
        Last edited by Eggie25; 02-07-2017, 01:24 PM.

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        • Eggie25
          Pro
          • Aug 2008
          • 730

          #499
          Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

          Everyone playing this set, please make sure you have the last set and let me know what you want improved. I want to make one final fix.

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          • jakalfc
            MVP
            • Nov 2014
            • 1608

            #500
            Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

            Originally posted by Eggie25
            Everyone playing this set, please make sure you have the last set and let me know what you want improved. I want to make one final fix.
            too many turnovers user than cpu

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            • jakalfc
              MVP
              • Nov 2014
              • 1608

              #501
              Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

              more free throws to cpu

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              • Eggie25
                Pro
                • Aug 2008
                • 730

                #502
                Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                Originally posted by napoli
                too many turnovers user than cpu

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                Originally posted by napoli
                more free throws to cpu

                Inviato dal mio SM-A510F utilizzando Tapatalk
                Great. Keep them coming. I'm going to hook this bad boy up. I'm not touching 3pt shooting if that comes up lol. I've already received inbox messages on 3's being too high in the past which caused me to drop it. So anything but that. Turnovers for user while dribbling the ball and free throws for the cpu I will address. Anything else?

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                • infemous
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1568

                  #503
                  Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

                  Originally posted by Eggie25
                  If the hip riding animation hasn't been happening then that's a big problem for me. I had the game feeling tough and able to get the hip action often enough. 2k is playing games. I usually go into exhibition and tweak. If you said Lateral Quickness is 100 then you have the wrong version. Download the current Eggie. Try that one out. Once you play that one, then let me know how it feels. Game speed 50 for that. It's not the tweaked version. It's the one you should've had. I will still work on this a little though. Thank God you mentioned Lateral Quickness 100. That's how I knew you had the wrong version.
                  Nice gonna download the most recent one now and report back!
                  Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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                  • infemous
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1568

                    #504
                    Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                    Played one game vs Bulls as Wizards and got handled but the game felt like it did before. Really enjoyed it.

                    Computer was intercepting too many passes tho. I had two inbound passes stolen either mid air or by swiping as he caught it. Had 11 turnovers and I think 10 were steals in the first half alone.

                    I liked how even though I out rebounded them, they got more offensive rebounds and that proved to be the difference.

                    Wade had no problem getting to the free throw line, neither did I, which kept me in it, but I didn't actually lead once, and having to preserve my starters eventually killed off my come back.

                    Is there any way to play 12 min qtrs and have a starter play 40 mins and not get the gatorade sign by mid 4th quarter?

                    Coz my players get the gatorade sign by mid 4th playing 30 mins.
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                    • Eggie25
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 730

                      #505
                      Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                      Originally posted by infemous
                      Played one game vs Bulls as Wizards and got handled but the game felt like it did before. Really enjoyed it.

                      Computer was intercepting too many passes tho. I had two inbound passes stolen either mid air or by swiping as he caught it. Had 11 turnovers and I think 10 were steals in the first half alone.

                      I liked how even though I out rebounded them, they got more offensive rebounds and that proved to be the difference.

                      Wade had no problem getting to the free throw line, neither did I, which kept me in it, but I didn't actually lead once, and having to preserve my starters eventually killed off my come back.

                      Is there any way to play 12 min qtrs and have a starter play 40 mins and not get the gatorade sign by mid 4th quarter?

                      Coz my players get the gatorade sign by mid 4th playing 30 mins.
                      That's good. I'm glad you enjoyed it. The cpu can get steal happy but there are always ways around that. I sometimes just take my time. I must admit that some things about the cpu are amped up simply so that us users can actually lose games. It gets boring knowing I will win all of the time. I rarely see the Gatorade sign because I don't use much turbo but you can simply lower Fatigue rate in the sliders for user and little bit.

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                      • jakalfc
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 1608

                        #506
                        Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

                        ever won by a margin like that with these sliders, I find much difference now playing with jazz when I was using the pacers (with them was hard). and only the second game but I'm better with jazz[ATTACH]

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                        • jakalfc
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 1608

                          #507
                          Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing (Real % possible) HOF Sliders

                          regarding turnovers in this game seems everything normal (many times and even my fault if I lose a lot of balls) ... instead in free throws I still see much difference, so I ask eggie if you're going to improve the focus sliders on free throws to cpu

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                          • Eggie25
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 730

                            #508
                            Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                            Originally posted by napoli
                            ever won by a margin like that with these sliders, I find much difference now playing with jazz when I was using the pacers (with them was hard). and only the second game but I'm better with jazz[ATTACH]

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                            Originally posted by napoli
                            regarding turnovers in this game seems everything normal (many times and even my fault if I lose a lot of balls) ... instead in free throws I still see much difference, so I ask eggie if you're going to improve the focus sliders on free throws to cpu

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                            That's the first time I've seen you win like that also. Impressive. Yes I will adjust free throw shooting real soon to help the cpu.

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                            • jakalfc
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 1608

                              #509
                              Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                              Originally posted by Eggie25
                              That's the first time I've seen you win like that also. Impressive. Yes I will adjust free throw shooting real soon to help the cpu.
                              I limited the cpu in the paint making them pull bad percentages

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                              • Eggie25
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 730

                                #510
                                Re: Eggie25's New and Improved User Timing HOF Sliders

                                Originally posted by napoli
                                I limited the cpu in the paint making them pull bad percentages

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                                That's good. I remember you used to struggle. I'm glad you are improving.

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