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  • Eggie25
    Pro
    • Aug 2008
    • 730

    #286
    Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

    Updated 4/14/2017 at 7:35 PM ET on PS4 and PC. User shooting for user timing is 40 period. I will leave it there. I think it's a safe place. Play a few games and give feedback everyone. Waiting on Xbox to be updated.
    Last edited by Eggie25; 04-14-2017, 07:49 PM.

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    • Eggie25
      Pro
      • Aug 2008
      • 730

      #287
      Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

      From playing with the shooting at 40, I think user timing should be set along with the real% version. Since this month has started, I've received a lot of love in my inbox and I think this set has come a long way. For what 2k has given us to work with, this set has become the set others are slowly catching on to and realizing where it truly stands. Thanks for the love everyone, and your support of the real deal. Let's all enjoy.

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      • Shalom96
        Rookie
        • Feb 2017
        • 8

        #288
        Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

        You have made great progress Bro. I love the realism your sliders bring. At first the cpu was shooting a high % against me but then I realized it was because I had to step up on D and guard the cpu in certain situations myself because 2k let's the cpu miss more when the user doesn't cheat and have the cpu play all of the defense. Now I can contain the cpu big time by mixing up when I play defense. I love it.

        1. I love the speed difference of the players. When I get a first step on the bugs, I can attack the paint strong.

        2. With the defensive settings you posted earlier, rotations on defense have improved big time. I feel like I actually can stop teams at key moments and not get abused by pick and roll cheese.

        3. The cpu plays more like themselves while being competitive. They will hit tough shots while not being cheesy and scoring on only scrap plays. I have never seen offense like this. I've seen post ups, isolations, pick and rolls, pick and fades, cuts, give and go's...you name it, consistently. Most sets simply have the cpu taking a bunch of 3's or finding a cut under the basket. Though not 100% perfect, yours are pretty versatile and come closest to real NBA action.

        4. As mentioned earlier, user defensive skill actually matters. If you only let the cpu play D, sure the cpu will help a lot but the opposing cpu will hit more shots. Eggie has made it possible to contain the cpu enough to maintain a great balance. The cpu used to shoot almost 60% against me lol. Now I keep the cpu around 40-48% consistently. User defense matters with this set.

        5. This set is competitive and games vary. There have been games where I win big and lose big. There also have been games that come down to the final possession. Once i improve a little more, i will lower the user shooting just for more of a challenge.

        6. Speed matters. I've been able to take advantage of pick and rolls, as well as fastbreak. It's not cheesy at all and it's balanced nicely. I've been able to create mismatches all over the court. I would mix in some isomotion and have the cpu on skates. Sometimes I would finish in the paint, or with a pull up jumper, or a drive and dish.

        7. I have had awesome user on ball steals which have been beautiful to see while the other team is dribbling the ball. Steal success at 52 has been a welcomed addition. I was getting tired of only seeing strips on layups or pass interceptions. Now I've actually seen other steal animations like the ball being popped up into the air, the ball being knocked behind the offensive player, etc.

        This has been the best experience I've had to date. Thanks Eggie.

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        • trapez124
          Just started!
          • Apr 2017
          • 2

          #289
          Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

          I use:

          Pass accuracy (CPU) - 30
          and
          cpu shooting (user timing)- 45

          because 50 is too strong in paint...& 55 pass accuracy give unreal pass...

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          • Eggie25
            Pro
            • Aug 2008
            • 730

            #290
            Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

            Originally posted by trapez124
            I use:

            Pass accuracy (CPU) - 30
            and
            cpu shooting (user timing)- 45

            because 50 is too strong in paint...& 55 pass accuracy give unreal pass...
            Great. As long as it only takes minor tweaks for everyone to enjoy.

            Originally posted by Shalom96
            You have made great progress Bro. I love the realism your sliders bring. At first the cpu was shooting a high % against me but then I realized it was because I had to step up on D and guard the cpu in certain situations myself because 2k let's the cpu miss more when the user doesn't cheat and have the cpu play all of the defense. Now I can contain the cpu big time by mixing up when I play defense. I love it.

            1. I love the speed difference of the players. When I get a first step on the bugs, I can attack the paint strong.

            2. With the defensive settings you posted earlier, rotations on defense have improved big time. I feel like I actually can stop teams at key moments and not get abused by pick and roll cheese.

            3. The cpu plays more like themselves while being competitive. They will hit tough shots while not being cheesy and scoring on only scrap plays. I have never seen offense like this. I've seen post ups, isolations, pick and rolls, pick and fades, cuts, give and go's...you name it, consistently. Most sets simply have the cpu taking a bunch of 3's or finding a cut under the basket. Though not 100% perfect, yours are pretty versatile and come closest to real NBA action.

            4. As mentioned earlier, user defensive skill actually matters. If you only let the cpu play D, sure the cpu will help a lot but the opposing cpu will hit more shots. Eggie has made it possible to contain the cpu enough to maintain a great balance. The cpu used to shoot almost 60% against me lol. Now I keep the cpu around 40-48% consistently. User defense matters with this set.

            5. This set is competitive and games vary. There have been games where I win big and lose big. There also have been games that come down to the final possession. Once i improve a little more, i will lower the user shooting just for more of a challenge.

            6. Speed matters. I've been able to take advantage of pick and rolls, as well as fastbreak. It's not cheesy at all and it's balanced nicely. I've been able to create mismatches all over the court. I would mix in some isomotion and have the cpu on skates. Sometimes I would finish in the paint, or with a pull up jumper, or a drive and dish.

            7. I have had awesome user on ball steals which have been beautiful to see while the other team is dribbling the ball. Steal success at 52 has been a welcomed addition. I was getting tired of only seeing strips on layups or pass interceptions. Now I've actually seen other steal animations like the ball being popped up into the air, the ball being knocked behind the offensive player, etc.

            This has been the best experience I've had to date. Thanks Eggie.
            Thanks man. Just chopping away at Goliath (2K) bit by bit and trying to give you guys the best experience out there. 2k has it's flaws but it still has the potential to be real good. It's all about trying to minimize cheese while keeping the game challenging and fun. It will never be perfect but, If you guys enjoy it, then I'm satisfied.
            Last edited by Eggie25; 04-15-2017, 09:57 AM.

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            • Eggie25
              Pro
              • Aug 2008
              • 730

              #291
              Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

              Xbox One updated everyone

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              • K3V
                Rookie
                • Nov 2012
                • 40

                #292
                Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                Eggie, thank you for all the time and effort you've put into these sliders. Really enjoying these so far. I am playing through a MyLeague Player Lock season and working on getting the most realistic statistical games that I can. Wanted to post a few screens for you.

                Game vs. Memphis, CPU shooting set at 37. Decided to bump from here as it is a pretty darn low and there were some open jumpers they were missing and contested post shots by guys like Gasol and Randolph that should go in some of the time. I am wondering if User shooting affects the guys on my team even though I'm player locking. I have a feeling it does.



                Next game @ Atlanta, bumped CPU shooting to 40, user shooting is also on 40. Big time blowout, 1st quarter we were already up 10+. Defensively we were on point which obviously helped limit their opportunities. Wondering if I should nerf user shooting to 37.



                Next game @ Miami, bumped CPU shooting up to 50, user shooting at 40. Three-quarters were competitive, Miami kept it sort of close but got blown out in the 4th. I didn't expect it to be super competitive since our team was ranked a fair bit higher than theirs.



                Still considering taking user shooting down a few pegs. Next game is against the Warriors so I want to see how these play vs a really good team before I make adjustments.

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                • Eggie25
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 730

                  #293
                  Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                  Originally posted by K3V
                  Eggie, thank you for all the time and effort you've put into these sliders. Really enjoying these so far. I am playing through a MyLeague Player Lock season and working on getting the most realistic statistical games that I can. Wanted to post a few screens for you.

                  Game vs. Memphis, CPU shooting set at 37. Decided to bump from here as it is a pretty darn low and there were some open jumpers they were missing and contested post shots by guys like Gasol and Randolph that should go in some of the time. I am wondering if User shooting affects the guys on my team even though I'm player locking. I have a feeling it does.



                  Next game @ Atlanta, bumped CPU shooting to 40, user shooting is also on 40. Big time blowout, 1st quarter we were already up 10+. Defensively we were on point which obviously helped limit their opportunities. Wondering if I should nerf user shooting to 37.



                  Next game @ Miami, bumped CPU shooting up to 50, user shooting at 40. Three-quarters were competitive, Miami kept it sort of close but got blown out in the 4th. I didn't expect it to be super competitive since our team was ranked a fair bit higher than theirs.



                  Still considering taking user shooting down a few pegs. Next game is against the Warriors so I want to see how these play vs a really good team before I make adjustments.
                  Thanks. I don't think the user timing effects your team. After the Warriors game, try user at 37 and cpu at 50 for player lock. I believe that should work for player lock. Player lock is an easier experience since you are just using one player. I've done it before in the past. I'm more confident in 37, 50 when it comes to player lock. Let me know how it goes.

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                  • K3V
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 40

                    #294
                    Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                    Here we go. User shooting at 37 CPU at 50. These played awesomely. Orlando had a ten point lead going into the fourth, Vucevic was killing in the paint and Gordon was hitting some threes but we were able to turn it on and go on a 13-5 run to take it.

                    Part of the trick on player lock is to not cheese the cpu too bad. I can run off-ball backdoor cuts so easily that it's almost a cheat move so I have to put a moratorium on those if I want competitive games.

                    These seem solid to me, going with these from here on out

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                    • Eggie25
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 730

                      #295
                      Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                      Originally posted by K3V
                      Here we go. User shooting at 37 CPU at 50. These played awesomely. Orlando had a ten point lead going into the fourth, Vucevic was killing in the paint and Gordon was hitting some threes but we were able to turn it on and go on a 13-5 run to take it.

                      Part of the trick on player lock is to not cheese the cpu too bad. I can run off-ball backdoor cuts so easily that it's almost a cheat move so I have to put a moratorium on those if I want competitive games.

                      These seem solid to me, going with these from here on out

                      Try lowering user's pass accuracy. Hopefully that can cut down on your ability to cheese on your cuts.

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                      • Eggie25
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 730

                        #296
                        Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                        New change to sliders 4/18/2017 10:45 PM ET. Cpu pass accuracy 40, User pass accuracy 35. PS4 updated. PC and Xbox One will be updated soon.

                        Edit: PC updated
                        Last edited by Eggie25; 04-19-2017, 07:47 AM.

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                        • Eggie25
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 730

                          #297
                          Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                          I had a fun game vs the Spurs. I couldn't stop Gasol. He looked young again. I had the Spurs shooting below 50% but they got hot and finished above 50%. I got the win regardless. (User Timing. User 40, Cpu 50).
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                          Last edited by Eggie25; 04-19-2017, 08:30 AM.

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                          • ohvitser12
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 487

                            #298
                            Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                            I have to quit this game.dont know what to do.wizards just scored 75 on half against me.impossible to defend 1-1, every cut to the basket is easy 2 points.every player get stuck to the pick and leave shooters open all the time.Help defense is totallly uselesss in this game..no fun of trying to play defense, totally unrewarding in this game....

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                            • Eggie25
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 730

                              #299
                              Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                              Originally posted by ohvitser12
                              I have to quit this game.dont know what to do.wizards just scored 75 on half against me.impossible to defend 1-1, every cut to the basket is easy 2 points.every player get stuck to the pick and leave shooters open all the time.Help defense is totallly uselesss in this game..no fun of trying to play defense, totally unrewarding in this game....
                              No need to post this in everyone's thread. Im sure not all of it is the games fault. The cpu helps some of the time, and others you need to switch. You need to read situations. Also, I have talked about cpu shooting levels in the first post to make it easier on everyone. Download the latest update I made. Move cpu shooting to 37. Make the to defensive changes I said to make a while back. Play a game, and get back to me.
                              Last edited by Eggie25; 04-21-2017, 02:13 AM.

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                              • ohvitser12
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 487

                                #300
                                Re: Eggie2.0 Slider-set Feedback Only Thread

                                Originally posted by Eggie25
                                No need to post this in everyone's thread. Im sure not all of it is the games fault. The cpu helps some of the time, and others you need to switch. You need to read situations. Also, I have talked about cpu shooting levels in the first post to make it easier on everyone. Download the latest update I made. Move cpu shooting to 37. Make the to defensive changes I said to make a while back. Play a game, and get back to me.
                                Ive lowered shooting but its not fun to make ai miss.more open shots.never had this problem playing defense before, i dont even want to talk about the game i had agaisnt GSW 😄😄.what were the defensive changes you would make in game?they seem to blow by me so easily lately

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