Aggressive cpu slider set

[caddyshck09]

Re: Aggressive cpu slider set

See that's the problem and it shouldn't be like that. If bow and arrow were for example op in assassin's creed should i not use them just to not exploit the game. Should I act like a robot and just call the plays and pretend that I can't do certain things that make scoring easier? That takes away so much fun if you ask me and I'd rather not play the game than just call the plays and dribble and shoot when I know I am doing that just to make it look prettier and more "realistic"

I was simply saying don’t call pick and roll and dunk every play, pick and pop, pick and drive and kick, etc. I still call pick and roll but I don’t abuse it.

[Johnnythelegend]

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I was simply saying don’t call pick and roll and dunk every play, pick and pop, pick and drive and kick, etc. I still call pick and roll but I don’t abuse it.

I wouldn't call it every play if it wasn't so effective that is if CPU knew to adapt and knew basics of defending the pick and roll. If CPU can't defend the pick and roll then there is something wrong with the game

[TSGuy]

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I like these sliders, I saw you comment on my thread. I'm coming back to this game after a few months. I have uploaded them on PC, the name is called Brooker2011 OS.

I want to ask though. I want to switch it to All-Star difficulty what do I need to do? Do i change the difficulty to All Star first and then do the slider changes once again one by one?

[Brooke2011]

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I like these sliders, I saw you comment on my thread. I'm coming back to this game after a few months. I have uploaded them on PC, the name is called Brooker2011 OS.

I want to ask though. I want to switch it to All-Star difficulty what do I need to do? Do i change the difficulty to All Star first and then do the slider changes once again one by one?

Yes that will work .. good luck ... enjoy

[TheSerbian]

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So some of the Attributes are set to 100. If i compare Stephen Curry (GSW) and Brook Lopez (Lakers)

With these attributes :

Acceleration 100
Vertical 100
Strength 100
Speed 100
Offensive Awareness 100
Defensive Rebounding 100

- Acceleration is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Vertical Jump/shot is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Strength is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Speed is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Offensive Awareness ( Offensive IQ ) is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Defensive Rebounding is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!

I know the answer is yes for everything, because i tested it in Freestyle Mode with these settings :

Acceleration 100
Speed 100

The results are :

Speed with ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Speed without ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Acceleration with ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Acceleration without ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez

So the game is totally unrealistic with these settings ...

[Brooke2011]

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So some of the Attributes are set to 100. If i compare Stephen Curry (GSW) and Brook Lopez (Lakers)

With these attributes :

Acceleration 100
Vertical 100
Strength 100
Speed 100
Offensive Awareness 100
Defensive Rebounding 100

- Acceleration is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Vertical Jump/shot is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Strength is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Speed is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Offensive Awareness ( Offensive IQ ) is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!
- Defensive Rebounding is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez ?!

I know the answer is yes for everything, because i tested it in Freestyle Mode with these settings :

Acceleration 100
Speed 100

The results are :

Speed with ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Speed without ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Acceleration with ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez
Acceleration without ball is same for Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez

So the game is totally unrealistic with these settings ...

Umm not really. You have to play to see and feel it. Remember the players are different sizes and I have a boost in the user movement sliders . And how can u possibly test that ???. You can’t have both players race up the court at the same time ?????

[Brooke2011]

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These sliders are for less sliding, realistic passing and aggressive play by the cpu. I’ve lowered game speed to 52 and it matches the flow of the nba better. Having increased attributes causes the cpu to internally take shots and drive more .

[TheSerbian]

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Umm not really. You have to play to see and feel it. Remember the players are different sizes and I have a boost in the user movement sliders . And how can u possibly test that ???. You can’t have both players race up the court at the same time ?????

Hehhh ... its very easy

I have mobile phone and i have also on my mobile phone TIMER I dont lie , you can test it also and you will see it. So Stephen Curry and Brook Lopez have same Speed and same Acceleration with YOUR sliders (Acceleration 100 and Speed 100) and also with this logic they have same Strength, Vertical, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding, because these attributes are on 100 on your sliders.

By the way your Movement sliders are totally bad ... Do you think players with ball are faster than without ball ?

Speed with Ball max speed - 70
Speed without Ball max speed 65
Acceleration with Ball - 67
Acceleration without Ball - 62

These sliders shows that your players with Ball are faster than without ball. It is very funny How can you run faster with ball than without ball ?

And also Offensive Awareness on 100 is a BIG problem :

The Offensive Awareness slider won't fix offensive problems for CPU. High offensive awareness can actually make the CPU play worse. They'll be "aware" that they have an inch of space and think they're wide open, whereas the defender is right there and can react quickly enough to where it's a TERRIBLE shot to take. This can lead to rushed offensive sets and just flat-out ugly gameplay from the CPU. By EccentricMeat

So in Overall your sliders are totally Unreal , because every players have same attributes for :

Acceleration
Speed
Vertical
Strength
Offensive Awareness
Defensive Rebounding

So you to understand with your sliders :

- Sloth have same Speed and Acceleration as a Tiger with your logic.
- Gorilla have same strength as a Penguin with your logic.

and also in your Movement sliders players with Ball are Faster than without Ball ... totally Unreal

[Brooke2011]

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Forget logic . 2k has speed with ball and without ball the same. Why? I don’t know . Cpu has an internal boost. Why? I don’t know . On default pro there is no separation on fast breaks . Why? I don’t know.

2k’s movement has always been off . Players slide , players warp, players have jerky movements to them.

If u went by logic and put the sliders accordibg to that logic then you would have an unrealistic looking game.

Things I look for when I play is
1. How smooth is the guy I’m controlling on defense. Does he back pedal smoothly? Does he accelerate and stop without sliding.

2. On offense, how is the dribbling and acceleration with dribbling up the court? Is there a huge flux or is the transition natural .

3. In the post , does it feel like there is weight when bodying up? does it feel like your skating and any branching animation out of the post are herky jerky?

4. Passing , does it feel like there is weight behind the pass or does it zip by and not correlate to what your body is doing?

5. does the cpu aggressive shoot at appropriate times, or are they stagnant and at times have no flow to them?

6. Does hand movement on blocking, reaching in on defense and fouling look natural or warping?

7. Does driving to the basket feel real, or even fun?

8. Does body interaction animations look smoothe on picks, on ball defense and fouls?

9. Is there the right pace to players when walking or jogging up the court?

Trying to get all theses aspects is hard and down right impossible. There are trade offs because of 2k’s internal logic .


It’s not what’s on paper, it’s what you se that matters.😉

[TheSerbian]

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Forget logic . 2k has speed with ball and without ball the same. Why? I don’t know . Cpu has an internal boost. Why? I don’t know . On default pro there is no separation on fast breaks . Why? I don’t know.

2k’s movement has always been off . Players slide , players warp, players have jerky movements to them.

If u went by logic and put the sliders accordibg to that logic then you would have an unrealistic looking game.

Things I look for when I play is
1. How smooth is the guy I’m controlling on defense. Does he back pedal smoothly? Does he accelerate and stop without sliding.

2. On offense, how is the dribbling and acceleration with dribbling up the court? Is there a huge flux or is the transition natural .

3. In the post , does it feel like there is weight when bodying up? does it feel like your skating and any branching animation out of the post are herky jerky?

4. Passing , does it feel like there is weight behind the pass or does it zip by and not correlate to what your body is doing?

5. does the cpu aggressive shoot at appropriate times, or are they stagnant and at times have no flow to them?

6. Does hand movement on blocking, reaching in on defense and fouling look natural or warping?

7. Does driving to the basket feel real, or even fun?

8. Does body interaction animations look smoothe on picks, on ball defense and fouls?

9. Is there the right pace to players when walking or jogging up the court?

Trying to get all theses aspects is hard and down right impossible. There are trade offs because of 2k’s internal logic .


It’s not what’s on paper, it’s what you se that matters.😉

As i said i see that the players have same Acceleration, Speed and also same Strength, Vertical Jump, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding. With these settings the game is Unrealistic and also with these settings it is almost nevermind who is the opponent , Golden State Warriors or Sacramento Kings. Because all of the players for Golden State Warriors have 100% Acceleration, Speed, Vertical Jump, Strength, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding and also all of the players for Sacramento Kings have 100% Acceleration, Speed, Vertical Jump, Strength, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding.

[Brooke2011]

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Well I just played the Cavs vs the Lakers and then the Cavs vs the Warriors and there was a huge difference.
Beat up on the Lakers , but lost to the Warriors. Curry led fast breaks and beat defenders. LeBron got fouled while driving by bigger players but muscled past smaller ones. Players actually played like their counterparts. Players coming off of screen that actually looked like they had weight to them.

Don’t forget every player has a ton of tendencies and attributes that play into the sliders. That has a bigger part to the gameplay.

[haimonag]

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This is awesome! The CPU plays MUCH more realistically, particularly on offence.

I tinkered with three things to lift my steal rate, support 3pt percentage on barely-contested shots & get more user freethrows:

* jump shot defence (release) for both CPU and User down to 40
* user steal success up to 60
* shooting fouls for user up to 60

Thanks heaps man, you've made MyLeague so much more playable

[Big Bankhead]

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As i said i see that the players have same Acceleration, Speed and also same Strength, Vertical Jump, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding. With these settings the game is Unrealistic and also with these settings it is almost nevermind who is the opponent , Golden State Warriors or Sacramento Kings. Because all of the players for Golden State Warriors have 100% Acceleration, Speed, Vertical Jump, Strength, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding and also all of the players for Sacramento Kings have 100% Acceleration, Speed, Vertical Jump, Strength, Offensive Awareness, Defensive Rebounding.

If you don’t like them, don’t use them. He didn’t have to even share his work. The way you’re criticizing his sliders are out of bounds and if you think you can do better, go create your own.

[TheSerbian]

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If you don’t like them, don’t use them. He didn’t have to even share his work. The way you’re criticizing his sliders are out of bounds and if you think you can do better, go create your own.

Hehhh For me Brooke sliders are the best on this forum, because most of the sliders are on 50% and some sliders are on 100 to make CPU Harder. But at the same time it is Unreal in some points. Unfortunately to make CPU Better we must to boost sliders to 100. Sorry for my english

In NBA2K18 Pick and Roll is too easy , I run beside the players and Dunk ... it is not funny , but with Brooke Sliders it is harder to do. At the moment i use Brook Sliders with some boost : Hustle 100 and On Ball Defense 100 to make Pick and Roll harder ...

So in overall Brooke sliders are the most challenging and i like it , but as i said it is Unreal in some points because of high (100) sliders.

Hehhh and I gave him 5star

[Brooke2011]

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It’s all good. I appreciate the feedback. If you want a tough challenge Serbian, I came up with some sliders that u might like just for U. Put the difficulty to HOF.
Then only change the following:

Game speed 52
User/ cpu
Speed with Ball (Max Rating): 72/70
Speed with Ball (Min Rating): 37/35
Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating): 100/67
Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating): 75/35
Speed without Ball (Max Rating): 65/60
Speed without Ball (Min Rating): 30/25
Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating): 62/57
Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating): 30/25