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  • Amx45
    Rookie
    • Oct 2018
    • 8

    #826
    Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

    Originally posted by BassPlayer7284
    Long time reader, first time poster...
    I enjoy simulating deep into a MyLeague every year on 2K. When using your sliders this year, I’m noticing an overabundance of good players not getting signed to teams after about 5-7 seasons into the MyLeague. There will be lots of great players in the high 80’s sitting in free agency, who don’t get signed, because there are so many good players rated in the 80’s. Is there anything I can do to fix that? Thanks!

    I've used a few sliders and always ran into this problem. I usually just manually sign them to teams that could use their services. If it's an older player I'll change their position to make them sign for the minimum then change it back once they're signed.

    Problem is when you have a young player in the lower 80s, sometimes high 70s sitting there but expecting $25mil+ a year. This is a 2k problem, not a slider problem. You can just lower their attribute to make them request a more realistic contract and then up it when they're signed.

    Just my own preference.

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    • bakersville123
      Rookie
      • Aug 2007
      • 211

      #827
      Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

      One approach I tested extensively on 2k19 over multiple 20+ year sims was lowering all draft class player potentials each year by -4 or -5 and then adding +3 or +4 back to the top three players with the highest potentials. Both approaches work, just up to the user on how much spread you want between elite and everyone else.



      Two things this accomplished; #1 it keeps the number of 80+ players within the same tolerance as the initial roster and #2 it still produces a few stars that are 90+.



      I also lowered everyone's age by -1 each year. Draft Class Quality at 50.



      Originally posted by schnaidt1
      That was the same issue as last year. 2k clearly didn't test their new progression/regression sliders last year and even though a lot of people commented on how inflated the ratings get, that never fixed it.

      Here's the problem and i spent a ton of hours on it last year and and again this year.

      There is no way (that I've found) to keep the same amount of 90 and 80 overalls 5 years in.

      If you reduce progression, naturally, that helps, but the problem it creates is you don't get new players going up into the 90s.

      Because 90% of players rated by mr stauffer are B- potential or better, you can see the problem this creates.

      Older stars are given A potential to keep them from dropping so fast which worked with the old system, now that we have regression sliders, the entire potential system needs to be reworked. I've ran so many test simulations trying to figure out a way to get young stars to progress into the 90s while keeping average players average.

      I have yet to find a combination.

      So yea, I'll be taking another shot at them soon, but for now, you can really only go 3-4 years deep before everything is inflated.

      Thanks 2k!! [emoji2959][emoji2959]

      https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1

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      • Teleo
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 2302

        #828
        Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

        Schnaidt1 - What are your thoughts on lowering morale all the way to 0? I ran a test - inputting all of your settings as is - puts wins and losses identical to the current NBA season and so many players are upset - I know that this is a topic that has been addressed repeatedly and may or may not be addressed by 2K at this point - but I had to stop when I saw that John Collins wants no more to do with the Hawks. Hard to imagine given the young core - the way he fits into that system - so I wanted to propose that question as stated above? 👆🏻By the way - thank you so much for all of your hard work on both 2K & Madden.

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        • dazzl
          Rookie
          • Dec 2019
          • 38

          #829
          Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

          Hi!

          Thanks for the terrific work schnaidt. You’ve done it once again.

          I just got 2 problems concerning the gameplay:
          1. Game speed: Is it just me or does someone else also think that the speed of the game is to fast? (Especially in comparison to schnaidt’s 2k19 slider set) Players like LBJ, AD, Harden, Lillard, etc. seem to fly over the court when they move to the basket. There is no way you can stop them. I already lowered the game speed to 48 but that did not really work. Also by lowering the game speed some moves look weird. Especially when driving to the basket or putting on some skill moves.

          2. Blowing by defenders (CPU&User): I’ve got the same problem as irdc. I can just hit speed(R2 without making any skill moves) and overrun the defender easily (@Genesio1: this even works with players having high 70s ratings. So it can not be a issue of playing with former and potential MVPs on the roster). Also the CPU can do the same thing with me. He just needs to run in full speed, skill moves are not even necessary and he will overrun my defenders. In combination with my first problem it makes players like LBJ transform in some sort of Superman modus. To solve that problem I raised defense awareness for both the CPU and user. Also I raised lateral quickness for both. It worked a bit but makes the gameplay look a little weird and shady.

          So any of you guys got a idea how to solve those two issues?

          Again a big thanks to schnaidt for putting so much effort in this slider set.

          Cheers

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          • schnaidt1
            All Star
            • Sep 2008
            • 5213

            #830
            Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

            Thank you, I appreciate it!!

            So, with morale at 0, I did test it..and nothing changed. Guys were still upset etc that made no sense and shouldnt be. However, with it at 0...pretty much everyone was playing at their rating or up 1 or 2. Didnt matter if they were anxious, upset, etc. That is why I had to use 25. It keeps players from all playing above their ratings all the time.
            Originally posted by Teleo
            Schnaidt1 - What are your thoughts on lowering morale all the way to 0? I ran a test - inputting all of your settings as is - puts wins and losses identical to the current NBA season and so many players are upset - I know that this is a topic that has been addressed repeatedly and may or may not be addressed by 2K at this point - but I had to stop when I saw that John Collins wants no more to do with the Hawks. Hard to imagine given the young core - the way he fits into that system - so I wanted to propose that question as stated above? [emoji1312]By the way - thank you so much for all of your hard work on both 2K & Madden.
            Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

            Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

            Please subscribe to my youtube channel for gaming content. https://youtu.be/PXU8cqLnq6w

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            • schnaidt1
              All Star
              • Sep 2008
              • 5213

              #831
              Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

              Yea, can't do to much with the gameplay speed or weird things happen.

              So, I guess my thoughts would be to lower speed and acceleration more first. If that doesn't work then perhaps another buff to lateral quickness is needed.

              I've not had an issue but seeing as a few of you are, that's what id look at if i were you and something I'll be looking at as well.
              Originally posted by dazzl
              Hi!

              Thanks for the terrific work schnaidt. You’ve done it once again.

              I just got 2 problems concerning the gameplay:
              1. Game speed: Is it just me or does someone else also think that the speed of the game is to fast? (Especially in comparison to schnaidt’s 2k19 slider set) Players like LBJ, AD, Harden, Lillard, etc. seem to fly over the court when they move to the basket. There is no way you can stop them. I already lowered the game speed to 48 but that did not really work. Also by lowering the game speed some moves look weird. Especially when driving to the basket or putting on some skill moves.

              2. Blowing by defenders (CPU&User): I’ve got the same problem as irdc. I can just hit speed(R2 without making any skill moves) and overrun the defender easily (@Genesio1: this even works with players having high 70s ratings. So it can not be a issue of playing with former and potential MVPs on the roster). Also the CPU can do the same thing with me. He just needs to run in full speed, skill moves are not even necessary and he will overrun my defenders. In combination with my first problem it makes players like LBJ transform in some sort of Superman modus. To solve that problem I raised defense awareness for both the CPU and user. Also I raised lateral quickness for both. It worked a bit but makes the gameplay look a little weird and shady.

              So any of you guys got a idea how to solve those two issues?

              Again a big thanks to schnaidt for putting so much effort in this slider set.

              Cheers
              Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

              Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

              Please subscribe to my youtube channel for gaming content. https://youtu.be/PXU8cqLnq6w

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              • dazzl
                Rookie
                • Dec 2019
                • 38

                #832
                Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                Ok thanks for your fast reply. I will test it later. What makes me a little bit suspicious is that in the video you posted (youtube(.)com/watch?v=qnZwVSU8rjQ) the game speed looks and feels like the one from 2k19. Does not look like everybody got a rocket on their back to let them fly over the court.
                Did you do any changes to your slider set in the last few days?
                For gameplay I used your official gameplay sliders and for my league I used your test sliders.
                And what do you mean by lowering the acceleration? The normal acceleration listed under attributes or acceleration with/without ball listed under movements?
                Could any of you guys please test in my league if the same problems happen to you when playing with/against a high class team?
                With those 2 problems the game is nearly unplayable because superstars just fly over the court and game is just moving to fast (dribblings, dunks and even passing the ball, you can’t see the ball being passed). Does not make any fun at all.

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                • schnaidt1
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5213

                  #833
                  Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                  No sir, I haven't made any changes. It's still the same with game speed at 51
                  Originally posted by dazzl
                  Ok thanks for your fast reply. I will test it later. What makes me a little bit suspicious is that in the video you posted (youtube(.)com/watch?v=qnZwVSU8rjQ) the game speed looks and feels like the one from 2k19. Does not look like everybody got a rocket on their back to let them fly over the court.
                  Did you do any changes to your slider set in the last few days?
                  For gameplay I used your official gameplay sliders and for my league I used your test sliders.
                  And what do you mean by lowering the acceleration? The normal acceleration listed under attributes or acceleration with/without ball listed under movements?
                  Could any of you guys please test in my league if the same problems happen to you when playing with/against a high class team?
                  With those 2 problems the game is nearly unplayable because superstars just fly over the court and game is just moving to fast (dribblings, dunks and even passing the ball, you can’t see the ball being passed). Does not make any fun at all.
                  Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

                  Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

                  Please subscribe to my youtube channel for gaming content. https://youtu.be/PXU8cqLnq6w

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                  • Genesio1
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 109

                    #834
                    Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                    Originally posted by dazzl
                    Ok thanks for your fast reply. I will test it later. What makes me a little bit suspicious is that in the video you posted (youtube(.)com/watch?v=qnZwVSU8rjQ) the game speed looks and feels like the one from 2k19. Does not look like everybody got a rocket on their back to let them fly over the court.
                    Did you do any changes to your slider set in the last few days?
                    For gameplay I used your official gameplay sliders and for my league I used your test sliders.
                    And what do you mean by lowering the acceleration? The normal acceleration listed under attributes or acceleration with/without ball listed under movements?
                    Could any of you guys please test in my league if the same problems happen to you when playing with/against a high class team?
                    With those 2 problems the game is nearly unplayable because superstars just fly over the court and game is just moving to fast (dribblings, dunks and even passing the ball, you can’t see the ball being passed). Does not make any fun at all.
                    Turn off your ps4 and restart it. I can see what your talking about. Gameplay has changed for some reason when I went back to main menu for our regular update. Cpu not running plays like before

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                    • Teleo
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 2302

                      #835
                      Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                      Originally posted by schnaidt1
                      Thank you, I appreciate it!!

                      So, with morale at 0, I did test it..and nothing changed. Guys were still upset etc that made no sense and shouldnt be. However, with it at 0...pretty much everyone was playing at their rating or up 1 or 2. Didnt matter if they were anxious, upset, etc. That is why I had to use 25. It keeps players from all playing above their ratings all the time.

                      https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1
                      It’s absurd that lack of attention this one area has been shown since launch - immersion into a My League is hindered a lot on morale - I don’t understand how coding can be be possibly changed from one installment to the next when the exact setting is featured in both.

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                      • Genesio1
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 109

                        #836
                        Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                        Damn damn damn update 1.10... haven’t read the notes but if it screws with my gameplay I’m deleting this game!!!!

                        So they say it’s to do with hair and latency. Kyle Lowry has the same hair.... He an NBA champ. Frustrating that he not mentioned....
                        Last edited by Genesio1; 01-23-2020, 08:51 AM.

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                        • AstrosAllDay85
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 556

                          #837
                          Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                          Originally posted by Genesio1
                          Damn damn damn update 1.10... haven’t read the notes but if it screws with my gameplay I’m deleting this game!!!!

                          So they say it’s to do with hair and latency. Kyle Lowry has the same hair.... He an NBA champ. Frustrating that he not mentioned....


                          He’s been fixed already but it’s tied to that roster update


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                          • schnaidt1
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5213

                            #838
                            Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                            I haven't got a chance to play yet, i was going to last night but my dang ps4 didn't update 2k even though it was in rest mode.


                            Did the patch screw with anything???

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                            • Liquid_SwordZ
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 71

                              #839
                              Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders




                              okay so quick question. I have Dinwiddie as my 6th and Deandre as my 7th man. I would like to have Dinwiddie replace Kyrie and Deandre replace Allen when they get subbed in. Problem is when they sub in Deandre is put at PF while Allen is still in at C and Dinwiddie is put in at SG while Kyrie is still in at PG. I've only played one game so far but I know I must've done something wrong. Another thing is I played against the Blazers and Lillard played 40 out of 44 possible minutes on top of being in foul trouble. Lillard killed me for 51 points, I know he scored 61 the other day but it was annoying because he was never subbed out and was playing as if fatigue didn't exist.

                              EDIT: I'm a dummy I forgot to do the coaching settings part of your "Best rotation setup" video so hopefully that solves my problem.
                              Last edited by Liquid_SwordZ; 01-23-2020, 03:31 PM.

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                              • schnaidt1
                                All Star
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 5213

                                #840
                                Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                                So, the problem is, your 6th man plays PG and SG.

                                You want him to come in playing PG but the problem is I'm assuming you have Kyrie playing either 30 or 35 minutes. That means there just isn't much time left for dinwiddie to play PG. So he instead is put at SG who I'm guessing you have your starting SG set to 25 minutes.

                                In order for your 6th and 7th man to work properly, the positions they are subbing in for need to be set to 25 minutes.

                                Does that make sense? If you got subs that can 2 positions, they will mostly play the position that has the fewest minutes assigned to them in the starting 5 because those are the players being subbed out more.
                                Originally posted by Liquid_SwordZ



                                okay so quick question. I have Dinwiddie as my 6th and Deandre as my 7th man. I would like to have Dinwiddie replace Kyrie and Deandre replace Allen when they get subbed in. Problem is when they sub in Deandre is put at PF while Allen is still in at C and Dinwiddie is put in at SG while Kyrie is still in at PG. I've only played one game so far but I know I must've done something wrong. Another thing is I played against the Blazers and Lillard played 40 out of 44 possible minutes on top of being in foul trouble. Lillard killed me for 51 points, I know he scored 61 the other day but it was annoying because he was never subbed out and was playing as if fatigue didn't exist.

                                EDIT: I'm a dummy I forgot to do the coaching settings part of your "Best rotation setup" video so hopefully that solves my problem.
                                Last edited by schnaidt1; 01-23-2020, 09:46 PM.
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