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  • Real2KInsider
    MVP
    • Dec 2003
    • 4658

    #16
    Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

    Historically, the first two EA basketball games on each system are crap.

    SNES: Bulls vs Blazers, NBA Showdown
    PS1: Live 96, Live 97
    PS2: Live 2001, Live 2002

    The third installment usually revamps the engine.

    SNES: Live 95
    PS1: Live 98
    PS2: Live 2003

    The next three installments are refinements/improvements of that engine

    SNES: Live 96/97/98
    PS1: Live 99/00/01
    PS2: Live 04/05/06

    XBox 360 is no exception to this cycle.

    2k on the other hand has proven to be able to deal with new technology.
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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #17
      Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

      EA has definitely added more 'next gen' stuff...ie individual sig J's.

      It's definitely "ahead" in terms of 'next gen'.

      However...I am certain 2K will come back with all those things. There's talk College Hoops 360 will have play calling / coaching from within the game (ie stop game /not back to menus).

      I'm certain 2K / VC will add sig J's etc by 2K7 360.

      At this stage, EA has a slight 'head start' in terms of next gen stuff while 2K has a pretty big lead in terms of core game play (i.e Live still hasn't got close to getting rebounding done correctly / balls still hit the floor while CPU bigs jump 2 meters away) + a lot of other 'basketball' things.

      I'm pretty sure BOTH companies will be working hard on next gen stuff for their 2007 games...i think we'll see a huge leap next season

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      • Altimus
        Chelsea, Assemble!
        • Nov 2004
        • 27283

        #18
        Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

        Whatever EA added that was next gen, lost out when they took everything else out! Which results in a negative effect in my opinion.

        IMO 2K is the better next gen game. The look, feel, everything.

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        • koolbubbaice
          MVP
          • May 2004
          • 2236

          #19
          Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

          Originally posted by Havok410
          Probably because VC had bigger things to worry about then making the coaches look good. Also, the first version of sports games on next gen systems usually don't live up to there potential graphics wise.
          Again, if the 360 version wasn't a xbox port, why do the coaches look nearly identical to the xbox version? B/C VC has bigger things to fry? Sorry, that won't fly next gen.. The 360 is powerful enough to make the Coaches, crowd, & Cheerleaders look great..EA did it.. I know ppl say, stop complaining, it's just the coaches.. My reply.. You have a powerful new system to work on, why give us last gen coach models? Remember VC it's the lil things that count..Remember the NFL 2k series?
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          • koolbubbaice
            MVP
            • May 2004
            • 2236

            #20
            Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

            Originally posted by Mike8027
            Whatever EA added that was next gen, lost out when they took everything else out! Which results in a negative effect in my opinion.

            IMO 2K is the better next gen game. The look, feel, everything.
            2k is the better game B/C they just ported ewverything over to the 360.. EA actually rebuilt from the ground up (which I still can't believe), so features had to be taken out..
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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #21
              Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

              Originally posted by koolbubbaice
              Again, if the 360 version wasn't a xbox port, why do the coaches look nearly identical to the xbox version? B/C VC has bigger things to fry? Sorry, that won't fly next gen.. The 360 is powerful enough to make the Coaches, crowd, & Cheerleaders look great..EA did it.. I know ppl say, stop complaining, it's just the coaches.. My reply.. You have a powerful new system to work on, why give us last gen coach models? Remember VC it's the lil things that count..Remember the NFL 2k series?
              Considering how it seems all devs had little time to TRULY refine their games on the 360, would it be fair to say that since they got SO MUCH right that this complaint is a bit much?

              If they're not improved for '07, I'd agree with you... but damn, you have to walk before you can run. Obviously no game got the complete GRAPHICS+complete GAMEPLAY combo right....

              But 2k6 was much, much, much, much, MUCH, MUCH closer....
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              • mr_president
                MVP
                • Oct 2002
                • 1167

                #22
                Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                give me gameplay over graphics anyday....you only see the coaches during timeouts anyway so that's no big deal to me, but the on court presentation and the gameplay of 2k6 is worth the price of admission.

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                • Behindshadows
                  CEO - BSG Network
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8055

                  #23
                  Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                  Why is this even still a discussion...If you don't like the way NBA 2k6 is on the 360 don't buy it...If you think Live 360 is better go buy it.

                  Port up, Port Down....NBA 2k6 is a more complete NBA game. And has more options, better gameplay. And I don't know what crack is being smoked on this planet...But just say NO!!!!

                  The graphics on NBA 2k6 are much better.....forget the damn coaches..The graphics were added where it matters. The player models...with an authentic skin look, more realistic sweat effect. And better lighting and reflections during gameplay in the stadiums..***nning at 1080i on My Samsung looks amazing.....

                  If you don't like it then who cares, its out and its bought my millions, its enjoyed by millions offline and online. And that says enough.....

                  But no matter your complaint you can't deny its the best basketball game on the 360...

                  Until College Hoops is released in 2 weeks...

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                  • luv_mist
                    Older
                    • May 2004
                    • 9596

                    #24
                    Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                    Originally posted by koolbubbaice
                    2k is the better game B/C they just ported ewverything over to the 360.. EA actually rebuilt from the ground up (which I still can't believe), so features had to be taken out..
                    HOw can you build from the ground up......while taking features out? Reread what you wrote and edit if you're trying to make your point.......

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                    • Sinner
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 5483

                      #25
                      Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                      I really don't understand what some people are thinking, now i know everybody has their own opinion but wow. NBA2k6 is not the same game/engine as NBA2k5. 2K chose to rebuild their whole game this year and port it, they have everything from the xbox version on the 360 version, all the features with a very fresh and new kind of gameplay. If they took out everything and just changed the gameplay like they did with the shot stick and the dribble moves everybody would be complaining, but they did the smart thing..changed the engine and still added all the features. EA changed their gameplay and took everything out but yet some of you think EA has the upper hand? They will slowly add the features from their previous game over the years, and eventually it will be up to par with their current gen games as far as the features. 2K has everything in place and it will definately be a new game next year, look at College 2k6 when it comes out cause they are adding to the crowd and coaches..talking about the look that some of you are complaining about, these are tweaks that will be added to their NBA and other things over the years including adding to gameplay which is already great.
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                      • Pared
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #26
                        Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                        Originally posted by Behindshadows2
                        If you don't like it then who cares, its out and its bought my millions, its enjoyed by millions offline and online. And that says enough.....
                        I love the game and all, but that's being a little overly dramatic.
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                        • Behindshadows
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 8055

                          #27
                          Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          I love the game and all, but that's being a little overly dramatic.
                          LOL...But its so true...It is enjoyed by many...its like a person buying a new car, you don't like the features or the way it looks don't buy it. There are alot of people who love it the way it is...

                          Same when it comes to this whole 2k to Live comparison...Some prefer the arcade feel to live and some enjoy the simulation of 2k...

                          Some care about the realism to the courts and player models....2k
                          Some care about the coaches and stadium darkness....Live...

                          If you like one yet don't like the other...Buy the one you like is all I'm saying ....Plus this whole port down, port up....Who cares...Its different than 2k5 is what matters on both XBOX and XB360...its different and better than 2k5.....Either way its rebuilt or updated from the previous year...and includes for once License Shoes...Better Gameplay and much need better presentation....and more....so this is why we like it...

                          One thing I really like on the 360 version is the option to change numbers on jersey's which was a complaint on the current gen version...Also the fact that during your Association...you can change the jersey's to mimic the games that are played in real life...nice touch overlooked....Association is much deeper, I like that....2k6 on the 360 is a much better game....The graphic boost just made it more enjoyable...along with the gameplay improvements...

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                          • SoMiss2000
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 20499

                            #28
                            Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                            What?!? That makes no sense whatsoever. All EA has is better graphics for now on the 360.
                            I still don't see this with Live. EA's next gen player models still have that cartoony look to me.
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                            • SoMiss2000
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 20499

                              #29
                              Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                              Originally posted by koolbubbaice
                              Again, if the 360 version wasn't a xbox port, why do the coaches look nearly identical to the xbox version? B/C VC has bigger things to fry? Sorry, that won't fly next gen.. The 360 is powerful enough to make the Coaches, crowd, & Cheerleaders look great..EA did it.. I know ppl say, stop complaining, it's just the coaches.. My reply.. You have a powerful new system to work on, why give us last gen coach models? Remember VC it's the lil things that count..Remember the NFL 2k series?
                              who cares about the coaches, cheerleeders, and how the crowed "looks"? All 3 elements add nothing to what's going on on the court.
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                              • SoMiss2000
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                                • Oct 2002
                                • 20499

                                #30
                                Re: Why did 2k6 port NBA 2k6 to the 360 instead of building from the ground up?

                                Running at 1080i on My Samsung looks amazing.....
                                people complaining must not be playing in HD. They can't be.
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