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  • ai2k2
    Pro
    • Aug 2002
    • 798

    #136
    Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

    Pippen as in Jordans sidekick. As in he is Mike Wangs sidekick in the Live threads. As for talking bout improving Live in a 2k thread. I could see where that could be taken offensively but as a consumer I could care less who has a btter product. Just knowing right now, as of today that Live has done a lot to get better I said that. Right or wrong, its just what I was feeling at the time. My OS name is ai2k2 for a reason hence 2k2 or 2k. I hope 2k really shocks us this yr. But I rlly feel chances are slim to none with that. Say what you will. We are all the consumers with no strings attached. We are in a win win situation, I'm just going with what I know about.

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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #137
      Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

      Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
      I was saying I wouldn't buy it on Day one because I noticed it was $30 on Black Friday which was basically 2 months from release. THat way everything that needs to be patched would have been patched. NOT because I didn't want the game

      But this year I will play BOTH games before I make my decision.

      My name is BehindSHadows, I won't buy both games
      Thanks for the clarification. i thought most of us enjoyed 2k8... I played that demo to death.... was that the year we called it digital crack ???
      Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #138
        Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

        Originally posted by jmood88
        What's funny is that people hated 2k8 but the moment he goes to the Live team he all of a sudden is the savior.
        I think DC clarified the 2k8 statement.

        Its all speculation for now but we can have this conversation again after the games release. My confidence in Beluba's gameplay abillities stems from many conversations of talking about the fundamentals of the game of basketball and the technical barriers to replicating the sport.

        The man is a fan of the sport and he himself wants to play the ultimate sim...always has. If you recall the talk around here was a dream team would be if we could take the sim qualities and tendencies of Inside Drive and marry those with the graphics of 2K we would have a hell of game.

        Then drive goes under and B goes to 2k and 2k7 is drastically better than 2k6... He brings most of the goodies like the drive camera and tendencies.

        So again I say all that to say that its not about him being the savior but you don't keep getting hired at these different competing companies because your average. Just like in any other field there are some people who are very good at what they do for whatever reason. I think the record has more than proved that he is one of those people.

        so that's all i will say on that, like I said, its all conjecture and we can pick this up again in Oct.

        However, my guess is that again, which ever game you pick this year your going to have a very good gaming experience. It will just be up to which game does or the one or two things "WE" as individuals think are the most important elements to us. I foresee some diehards playing leagues in both games... just a feeling.
        Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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        • ai2k2
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 798

          #139
          Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

          Well said.

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          • Sovartus
            Pro
            • Mar 2007
            • 503

            #140
            Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

            I will chime in for just a sec....

            First, I want to address the guy that said 2K's post game is limited.. umm no it's not. There are quite a few post moves to do in 2K on a consistent basis so you are wrong about that. The problem is that they cut back on the post from 2K8 and now the moves are ridiculously predictable because they are all set animations.

            I won't say that 2K won't made a solid basketball game this year because 2K9 was solid. I think Live 09 was a much better sim title than 2K9 on gameplay alone although 2K had more to offer for your money and a overall better "experience". I personally am more interested in how the game plays than all the "stuff" that makes it an experience.

            Live in closing in on 2K and they are closing in fast. I understand that 2K has been on top for quite some time now but unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat this year, they are in trouble. There is nothing they can do, as far as I can think of, to counter that DNA system Synergy is pumping into Live everyday. You simply can not get more sim than real life data driving the gameplay and AI. That was genious. Unless 2K signed a deal with Stats or 82 games or something and that still wouldn't top what live is doing. It would just allow them to be in the game. Beluba has a track record of being involved in making great basketball sims. No one can deny that. He did it for 2K and he will do it for Live.

            2K always hordes info until the last possible second to try to "keep an edge" and live puts small amounts out there for the fans. It has always been that way. I can't say that 2K won't make a good game. I'm sure they will make some improvements but unless they have been secretly working on a new Next-Gen engine, they are 5 years behind in development. They will never catch up with Live if that is the case. Let's not forget that the 2K engine was ported from PS2 and original Xbox.

            I believe many of you are holding on to what is familiar instead of embracing the future of gaming. Live is scratching the surface of what will become the expectation of hoops gaming. EA has done the same thing with Madden this year. That game is incredible. I'm not a fanboy, I'm a realist. I want what's real.
            These are my opinions based off of my perspective. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but if you disagree, we can still agree to disagree agreeably and not fight about it.

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            • ai2k2
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 798

              #141
              Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

              Well said. Aww man, today must be the day of the enlightened lol.

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              • WaddupCouzin
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2366

                #142
                Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                I've been on this forum for YEARS, I've seen most of the posters in this thread for YEARS, and ALL who have been here for YEARS know that 2K brings out information LATE!

                They do the same thing, EVERY YEAR.

                Live, trying to prove that they have a better game that last year (Usual Fiasco, although they've gotten better) ALWAYS attempt to get the head-start and the buzz, so they drop info early. They've done this EVERY YEAR. 2K always drops info after EA, Most people jump on EA's Bandwagon, then Jump-off just as fast once 2K releases Information.

                to Paraphrase Pared's earlier post, Chill Out and Relax
                "I've Altered The Deal..."

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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #143
                  Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                  Originally posted by Da_Czar
                  I think DC clarified the 2k8 statement.

                  Its all speculation for now but we can have this conversation again after the games release. My confidence in Beluba's gameplay abillities stems from many conversations of talking about the fundamentals of the game of basketball and the technical barriers to replicating the sport.

                  The man is a fan of the sport and he himself wants to play the ultimate sim...always has. If you recall the talk around here was a dream team would be if we could take the sim qualities and tendencies of Inside Drive and marry those with the graphics of 2K we would have a hell of game.

                  Then drive goes under and B goes to 2k and 2k7 is drastically better than 2k6... He brings most of the goodies like the drive camera and tendencies.

                  So again I say all that to say that its not about him being the savior but you don't keep getting hired at these different competing companies because your average. Just like in any other field there are some people who are very good at what they do for whatever reason. I think the record has more than proved that he is one of those people.

                  so that's all i will say on that, like I said, its all conjecture and we can pick this up again in Oct.

                  However, my guess is that again, which ever game you pick this year your going to have a very good gaming experience. It will just be up to which game does or the one or two things "WE" as individuals think are the most important elements to us. I foresee some diehards playing leagues in both games... just a feeling.
                  I never said that I don't like Beluba or what he's done but what's ridiculous is that people had all these same complaints about teams not playing like themselves and whatever else but when he switches teams again he's all of a sudden going to make Live into a great game by himself.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • ai2k2
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 798

                    #144
                    Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                    But what your NOT understanding is though all your statements are facts. Live NEVER had the team like they have now nor the gameplay genius in Mike Wang. Its a diff energy and more credible core with the SAME marketing tatic. That's why you guys are so non chalant. That's because we heard it before from EA, but look DEEP. All jokes aside, EA for the first time has crdibilty like never before. I hope 2k is great, as I said as a consumer I as well as you benefit most. But I think Live has it this year unless 2k does the unthinkable. The first video they show a MAJOR upgrade IMHO.

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                    • WaddupCouzin
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2366

                      #145
                      Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                      I never said that I don't like Beluba or what he's done but what's ridiculous is that people had all these same complaints about teams not playing like themselves and whatever else but when he switches teams again he's all of a sudden going to make Live into a great game by himself.

                      So very true! Pull up the old 2K8 Threads, The proof is in the pudding.
                      "I've Altered The Deal..."

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #146
                        Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                        Originally posted by ai2k2
                        But what your NOT understanding is though all your statements are facts. Live NEVER had the team like they have now nor the gameplay genius in Mike Wang. Its a diff energy and more credible core with the SAME marketing tatic. That's why you guys are so non chalant. That's because we heard it before from EA, but look DEEP. All jokes aside, EA for the first time has crdibilty like never before. I hope 2k is great, as I said as a consumer I as well as you benefit most. But I think Live has it this year unless 2k does the unthinkable. The first video they show a MAJOR upgrade IMHO.
                        Every year is supposed to be the year that "Live is back" and until they show something more than a highlight trailer I won't believe that.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • WaddupCouzin
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2366

                          #147
                          Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                          Originally posted by ai2k2
                          But what your NOT understanding is though all your statements are facts. Live NEVER had the team like they have now nor the gameplay genius in Mike Wang. Its a diff energy and more credible core with the SAME marketing tatic. That's why you guys are so non chalant. That's because we heard it before from EA, but look DEEP. All jokes aside, EA for the first time has crdibilty like never before. I hope 2k is great, as I said as a consumer I as well as you benefit most. But I think Live has it this year unless 2k does the unthinkable. The first video they show a MAJOR upgrade IMHO.
                          I've looked at the Live Trailer several times, EA knows how to market themselves by making Unbelievable Trailers, but like Pared mentioned on his thread I was underwhelmed, but to each his own.
                          "I've Altered The Deal..."

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #148
                            Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                            I really don't want to have to lock this... but I keep seeing posts about guys trying to sell those perusing the NBA 2k Forum on the Live development team.

                            Might want to think about that. If we keep seeing posts about Live in this forum, I'm ultimately going to lock the thread.

                            There are forums for each game series. If guys want info on Live, they head to the appropriate forum. If they want info on 2k, they do the same.

                            Guys don't enjoy reading about how great 2k's blah blah blah is in the Live forum. Similar case we're coming upon here.

                            Everyone (for the most part) does a great job of keeping the (majority of their) focus on the corresponding titles in the appropriate forums. You can compare and make your comments, but let's not keep re-iterating the same point.

                            It's only going to get worse as release time draws near. Let's not do this 2 months before we really have to.
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                            • Goffs
                              New Ork Giants
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12279

                              #149
                              Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                              Originally posted by jmood88
                              Every year is supposed to be the year that "Live is back" and until they show something more than a highlight trailer I won't believe that.
                              THIS! lol every year

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                              • tcnumba10
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1816

                                #150
                                Re: Any news on when 2k will be releasing info???

                                What Pared said +1. This thread is about 2K10 news not a thread about reasons why LIVE10 is going to be better than 2K10 (which i highly doubt unless proven otherwise)...
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