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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #811
    Re: NBA 2K10 Q&A: Retail Copy in Hand

    Guys, I need to sidestep questions for a bit and give you some unfortunate news.

    Private Team-up games are bugged to the point where most people will deem the mode unplayable.

    I'll try my best to explain.

    Right now, we've encountered 2/3 bugs that absolutely kill this mode for practically everyone.

    Scenario: 3 guys playing on the same team vs. the CPU. Pro difficulty. PG, SG and SF being controlled.

    1) There's a bug where somehow, the PG is making their subs for the 2nd or 3rd time and while someone else is making subs and all players will have the name of the PG's player in their current position. Here is a screen shot:



    Now, everyone can still make subs. The problem is only the PG's name will be reflected. The other players can press left or right and you will see guys get off the bench, but you can't see their names in that menu. This does not go away and you must restart another game.

    2. Everyone has a designated color to start the game. PG is red, SG is blue, SF is yellow. These aren't the actual colors, I'm just using them for this example. Well, sometimes what is happening is after timeouts, the colors will be all screwed up but you maintain your position. We've had scenarios where after a timeout (user called AND CPU called) where the PG is suddenly blue, the SG is yellow and the SF is red. There's no consistency to it, but it's very disorienting when it happens.

    3. To piggyback on bug 2, there are times when the players POSITIONS will get all screwed up. In a few games where I started as the PG, I've been switched to the SG while others have been switched to other positions as well. It only switches among the user controlled positions and there's no consistency to this either. To make it worse, there are times where your player's color gets switched with the position switch as well and times where it doesn't.

    4. When creating a team-up game privately, you are thrown into a lobby to set up the game. Once the game is over, you are brought back to this lobby where you can re-start a new game. Problem is, every time you go to restart the game, everyone but the host gets kicked a good % of the time and I believe their console freezes.

    5. The CPU does not seem to make subs for the guys you are NOT controlling. If they do, they leave players in way too long and will be extremely tired. The CPU manages their fully CPU controlled team extremely well, just not your CPU teammates. You can not control the CPU teammate subs.

    It's such a shame because this mode is just a complete blast against the computer now. They are running a solid offense and you really have to man up this year on your man.

    Momentous and a few others tested all this out extensively last night. There is no consistency to any of these bugs, so we can't even suggest how to reproduce. If we were, I'm sure 2k would be able to address them.

    For the record, we played one ranked team-up game and none of this happened during it. Not sure if that's the key or what.... but if you didn't know, in a ranked team-up game, you can't select your sides or position.
    Last edited by Pared; 09-27-2009, 11:59 AM.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #812
      Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

      That doesn't sound good at all but hopefully that is something that can be addressed in a patch, if they're able to determine what's causing that.
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      • MelMan1486
        Pro
        • Sep 2008
        • 999

        #813
        Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

        That sucks for team up guys... hopefully it can get patched for them.

        I'm just praying there's no glaring bugs in association mode.

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        • Bornindamecca
          Books Nelson Simnation
          • Jul 2007
          • 10919

          #814
          Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

          Originally posted by Pared
          Guys, I need to sidestep questions for a bit and give you some unfortunate news.
          ^^^Should have its own thread.
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          • infam0us
            MVP
            • Jan 2009
            • 1607

            #815
            Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

            That really killed team up for me, all I do is play team up private games. Thanks for the heads up pared.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #816
              Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
              ^^^Should have its own thread.
              Good point. I'll figure something out.

              Here are three things I've seen that definitely are worth mentioning:

              1) The CPU passes off the backboard and turns it over way too often. This happens during inbounds plays and baseline passes.

              2) There is one instance where the CPU runs the break and the ball handler passes the ball behind his teammate. Now, at first I thought it was an unforced turnover and liked it. But I've seen the same exact scenario happen repeatedly. Looks to me like it's just a broken routine during the break.

              3) I can completely abuse the quick pick and roll. At first, the CPU doubles me and does not allow me to get a pass off after about the 2nd or 3rd time. However, I kept at it and the CPU does not have guys fill the paint or at least cheat enough to deflect the pass in there.

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              • Lagoa
                Pro
                • Apr 2008
                • 916

                #817
                Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                Man....

                I hope your retail version is incomplete Pared....

                Because game have various bugs at this time..... it´s not good!
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                • Bornindamecca
                  Books Nelson Simnation
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 10919

                  #818
                  Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                  This is why My Player is so important to me. It's the only mode I am certain will work, besides playing in the OS league. The CPU was so bad last year that I can't really trust it until I play it. I don't expect it to be as broken as it was, but Player Lock worked last year even when the rest of the single player was broken. Most of the issues with that mode were fixed when the Combine came out. I have a feeling that My Player will be a A- to an A+, but single player and online play have many obstacles to overcome.
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #819
                    Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                    No, I have the full version plus the already released first day patch.
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #820
                      Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                      Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                      This is why My Player is so important to me. It's the only mode I am certain will work, besides playing in the OS league. The CPU was so bad last year that I can't really trust it until I play it. I don't expect it to be as broken as it was, but Player Lock worked last year even when the rest of the single player was broken. Most of the issues with that mode were fixed when the Combine came out. I have a feeling that My Player will be a A- to an A+, but single player and online play have many obstacles to overcome.
                      My Player has been completely awesome so far. Except I'm not sure if you can change the camera angle??

                      As for the PnR's... it's less effective with other guys... It's just that DWill Boozer combo so far. Boozer is a beast and he always cuts well to the hoop. The CPU isn't picking him up well on ALL-Star.
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                      • jackpapa2k9
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10

                        #821
                        Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                        The thread is too long to check so i just want to slip in i noticed about nba 2k10. Momentous trailer #3.. while mo williams was hustlin for the ball against rajon rondo.. mo williams and lebron james are both wearing white headbands @ home. so im assuming that if u choose to wear team or 2nd team, that's when it changes to red. Hoping for a confirmation.. btw thanks for these infos. 2k all the way!!

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #822
                          Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                          No, it's a bug that was fixed and got screwed up somewhere between the videos and the final copy. This was confirmed by a dev.
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                          • idrisguitar
                            Pro
                            • May 2007
                            • 542

                            #823
                            Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                            have you tested this pick and roll problem on superstar or HOF?

                            because everything else seems fixable and playable (high FG %, speed, etc.), but this is really worrying. i saw it pasta padres vid and figured it was just on pro. but if it happens on all-star then it could be a worrying sign.

                            i was really hoping they would nail the core gameplay and from everything up to now it seemed they have done it (minus a few slider tweaks) but this could ruin it.

                            hope you have the time to test it out and get back to us, either way thanks a lot for all your work.

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                            • jackpapa2k9
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10

                              #824
                              Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                              so its still red for home?.. pardon me, i didnt really get what u meant by what they actually fixed.. coz ive been seeing red headbands from other trailers.

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                              • thakeaf
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                                • Nov 2008
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                                #825
                                Re: NBA 2K10 Q&amp;A: Retail Copy in Hand

                                got damn headbands are serious bidness round these parts

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