NBA 2K10 Review

[jyoung]

Re: NBA 2K10 Review

People just try to read way to much into review scores when really, they are nothing more than the author's general impression of the game at hand.

Review scores don't have anything to do with last year's game, and unless the same guy is reviewing more than one game (which is rarely the case here at OS), the score doesn't have anything to do with other games, either.

If you want to know whether a game is better or worse than last year's version, most reviews will usually tell you within the text itself.

Problem is, most people don't bother to read the text and just jump straight to the score, which unfortunately for them, won't tell them anything besides what that specific reviewer thought of that specific game.

Bottom line is, it shouldn't be the reviewer's fault that people don't understand the basis of a game's rating.

[Boilerbuzz]

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So true, that statement is the troll calling card. Every time someone says I bought every game since blah blah blah, but this year blah blah blah, I know exactly their agenda is.

Amen.

[BOSsTOwN]

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Am I going crazy or what, this game is not playable. What are you guys talking about? The isomotion is just terrible, thats plain and simple. The dribbling is a joke in this game, the passing game is ********. The game is a dunk fest!! I mean, seriously. I have been playing 2k since 2007 but this year I tried the live demo and I was very impressed by how fluid the controls were. I am going with LIve this year. No doubt about it.

Iso motion has been terrible for the last few years. I always switch to the control scheme that let's you use B for dribble moves

[sambowie]

I love how some people make narrow-minded assumptions about other people without having the common sense to understand what that person is saying. Your interpretation skills need work. I have nothing against the reviewer and thought he gave a decent impression of the game. It's review scores that I'm against because they often don't make any sense when compared with other scores. I shouldn't have to spell out what I'm saying for you.

Your last paragraph you've said exactly what I was saying in my post. Do you have trouble reading?

I love how some people are so myopic they use their "interpretation skills" to glean that I was making a comment about one poster, i.e. you. All I know is that after reading several posts accusing the reviewer of bias (and seeing similar accusations of bias all over this site directed to OSers) I got a little tired of the attack.

Disagree with this view all you want but try to do it without petty personal attacks next time.

[NBAfan#109287322]

So true, that statement is the troll calling card. Every time someone says I bought every game since blah blah blah, but this year blah blah blah, I know exactly their agenda is.

too right mate, who hasn't played a b'ball game every year one has come out on any platform, it's just lame, 2k10 looks great this year and i haven't played the demo, nor will i have a copy till 10th Oct, but I like the new animations, the areas look awesome and the new broadcast system sounds great, nice work 2k

[marc68]

No mention of framerate issues? Or custom in-game sounds for the 360? Or anything on the Association mode?

Do we need to have the review out at midnight of release date if it means glossing over or skipping some substantial areas of the game?

Exactly....what about the framerate problems I have read about?????????

[Dalsanto0026]

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I sorta agree and disagree at the same time. Let's think about it. If you made the perfect game in 08, what else are you expected to do for 09. Now, OF COURSE, 2K10 is FAR from perfect. But if the game was a handful of issues away from being the holy grail, how would you rate it? I have no problem with the rating. It's pretty much what I would have given it, I guess. But at some point, if they are going to make games on an annual basis, you HAVE to be able to sense a year worth of work on the game. The question is, do changes noted in the review represent a fair amount of a year's worth of work for the developers? If you can say 'yes', then maybe you can justify a higher score. If not, a lower score should be expected...

With that said, I think NHL, MLB, NBA, soccer, and NFL games need to continue to innovate to some degree. All annual sports game. Otherwise, why should anyone buy them year after year?

I can see your point about innovation. Does 12 months give developers enough time to take a new direction from the game's current mechanics, which honestly are quite solid? It's one hell of a risk. If it was financially viable I think a 2 year development cycle would be a good idea to give them the opportunity to try and test new ideas.

Overall though, I think developers are judged too harshly because a game isn't that different from the previous version. If you look at it from the perspective of someone who is new to the game I'm sure they would be more impressed. Afterall there are some people who've never played 2K's basketball games.

[Dalsanto0026]

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I love how some people are so myopic they use their "interpretation skills" to glean that I was making a comment about one poster, i.e. you. All I know is that after reading several posts accusing the reviewer of bias (and seeing similar accusations of bias all over this site directed to OSers) I got a little tired of the attack.

Disagree with this view all you want but try to do it without petty personal attacks next time.

I should apoligise for the "misinterpretation" on my part, but I get a little tired of the snide remarks on this site.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I can see your point about innovation. Does 12 months give developers enough time to take a new direction from the game's current mechanics, which honestly are quite solid? It's one hell of a risk. If it was financially viable I think a 2 year development cycle would be a good idea to give them the opportunity to try and test new ideas.

Overall though, I think developers are judged too harshly because a game isn't that different from the previous version. If you look at it from the perspective of someone who is new to the game I'm sure they would be more impressed. Afterall there are some people who've never played 2K's basketball games.

Exactly. I just think that too many people get jaded. Whether the feel of the game is great or terrible, it seems all they want is "different". I really hate that. My best example is Madden. The old gen Maddens played and felt awesome. They changed for the current gen systems and broke a LOT of things that were great about the game. Now, in MY opinion, the franchise is in the toilet in terms of overall quality of gameplay. It's a harsh opinion, but my point is that change for the sake of change is ***. People complaining about the game "feeling the same" are just looking to complain. They are bored and want to feel something new. Nothing is wrong with that. Just recognize it for what it is.

Once a sports title hits a console, that's pretty much the look and feel you're going to be stuck with until the new consoles come. People need to get over themselves and accept that. It takes more than 12 months to make a new game.

[sicksteen]

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Too much help defense, too easy to get under the hoop and score, and maybe its just me but I cant stay in front of anybody with the new lockon d. But on the positive, the courts bigger, turbo bar cuts down cheesing, no more constant trapping, makes the game way more fair to play.

9/10

[kydice]

The game is great. I think that there needs to be a patch for the over spectacular alley-oop ability. I don't like the release system it is difficult to tell when you are shooting a bad or a good shot. But the gameplay is more sim than ever. It is more difficult to pull off cross-overs. But over all I love the game and all of the extras

[wheelman990]

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I have no problem with a 8.5. Sounds fair I guess.

However, Madden 2010 is a 9 and this is a 8.5?

[BlackRome]

The game is clunky. The movement is still terrible like last year.

Basketball is a game of small steps. The way the game is set up you take one step at a time. It makes the game slow and unresponsive.

Offline this can be fixed by bumping the speed up to 55-57.

When I play with the speed bumped up all of a sudden the small steps that are constantly made on a basketball court are apparent. Where do you think the squeaky sneakers on the hardwood come from.

Online this is going to be a problem. I don't see 2k bumping the speed up for the game online. Which to me will makes the game unplayable. For some reason the game has become less responsive every year since 2k7.

Since I only play online I'm headed out right now to by Live.

[Jimbo68]

Fair review in my opinion. I haven't yet picked this game up but I sure played the heck out of the 360 demo. I tried the PS3 Live 10 demo, played two games and deleted it. Just too cartoony for me but I did enjoy playing around in the hangar. Has anyone heard anything with regards to frame rate differences between 2K10 on the 360 vs PS3? Thanks in advance for any input.

[SBartlett]

Please note that standards change each year. If the game was a 9 last year and they re-release the same game with updated rosters, that doesn't mean the game will get another 9. In fact the game would actually decrease to 7.5 or 8 due to lack of innovation. The fact that this game gets 8.5 should not be related to last year's 9.0 in any way.



Well they make a thread about the review for people to discuss it. If a score doesn't matter then they should just review the game and give no score at all, but they don't.

that's the logic behind the review - great observation man. TD rated it based on NOW, and what the game presents to us in 2009.

You can't give it a 9.5 simply because it's better than 2k9. That would be inflation in ratings like you all are agueing.