NBA 2K10 Patch Details Announced PS3/360 (Updated 10/22)

[drewbaby1414]

Re: patch details here

Now that I have the Nogster Roster I am really wanting to start my association. I think that I will have to hold off until the patch is released as I would like the player progression/shot tendencies/Player Moral/Contract issues patched before I roll into it.

I really hope a dev. can shed some light about this and if the patch would allow us to continue in our association.

If not I guess I will have to wait until December when the patch comes out. Patch is coming in first part of December correct?

[jeebs9]

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That can be a blurry line though. If there is something about the game that you don't like, or that you don't think is sim, then whatever. You can complain but you're not entitled to having it changed to suit your needs. In that sense, you're right.

However, when servers don't allow people to play online, freezes prevent a game mode from functioning or bugs change the very nature of the experience, people are entitled to have their product repaired, or return it flat out.

People do need to realize that 2k is not a person, but a team, and that some members of the team have no control over some things. In this sense, 2k members can only communicate what they think will happen, but may not have been the cause or solution for certain issues.

All the same, people are entitled to a working product. If an issue prevents the game from working as promised(or as games work according to the standard of the industry), the consumer has indeed been denied what they are entitled to receive upon the agreement of purchase.

QFT

[drewbaby1414]

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I went to the 2K10 website/forum. They stated that the patch details have been updated for the Xbox but I can't seem to find them.

Maybe they are just the same. Not sure.

Does anyone know what the difference in the two patches are?

[BroMontana82]

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Great read. Here's my problem with this though. 20 out of 20 testers must have noticed the framerate issues. NBA 2k10 is easily my favorite bball game to date but I'm sick of this under resourced, short development excuse crap. I can accept players teleporting once and a while or defence not double teaming the right way, stuff like that. I can understand how stuff like that could be missed or considered low priority. I have no problem waiting on the patch for that stuff But waiting 2 months for a patch that fixes the most glaring issue, the framerate, some accountability needs to be taken here. I don't want to see an article like ^^^^^ Just tell me u effed up and we will move on. I have to wait and enjoy this awesome game till mid - end November? that's garbage. It's like putting unwrapped presents for your kids under the tree in November. Sorry kids you can't play with that xbox 360 till December 25th. Sorry guys I'm just tired of crap like this. Accountability!!

yeah i agree about the framerate. i understand where they are coming from and the testers and short dev. cycles, but it's interesting that this was passed over as it was one of the major issues last year at release and even after the patch when they said it was fixed. plain and simple, it wasn't fixed. for it to still be a problem this year points towards some sort of upper management decision to pass over the problem and focus on other things until people got really frustrated. either that, or it was tough to find a good fix without affecting anything else. who knows, but it would be interesting to hear about or know the real truth behind things like this.

[Pared]

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That can be a blurry line though. If there is something about the game that you don't like, or that you don't think is sim, then whatever. You can complain but you're not entitled to having it changed to suit your needs. In that sense, you're right.

However, when servers don't allow people to play online, freezes prevent a game mode from functioning or bugs change the very nature of the experience, people are entitled to have their product repaired, or return it flat out.

People do need to realize that 2k is not a person, but a team, and that some members of the team have no control over some things. In this sense, 2k members can only communicate what they think will happen, but may not have been the cause or solution for certain issues.

All the same, people are entitled to a working product. If an issue prevents the game from working as promised(or as games work according to the standard of the industry), the consumer has indeed been denied what they are entitled to receive upon the agreement of purchase.

You're right. I wish people would take the stance that they have, however, and stop acting like you're defending the casual consumer.

You can work around pretty much most of your issues, can you not? If you're here on OS, you're an informed gamer. You know they're patching X, Y and Z. What does that make you when you keep complaining about it?

Old school members here worked with developers in making our games better, not telling them what to do. It's that latter mindset and not the former that is permeating the community now, for some unknown reason.

I remember you saying in the Live forum that time was something they certainly did not have enough of. The same can probably be said here. It seems like the patch will prove that, and we as a community of knowledgeable gamers to understand that. (EDIT: And carry ourselves as such.)

[RumbleCard]

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I went to the 2K10 website/forum. They stated that the patch details have been updated for the Xbox but I can't seem to find them.

Maybe they are just the same. Not sure.

Does anyone know what the difference in the two patches are?

This is a good question. I can't find anything other than the original ps3 thread with tidbits about the 360. I was thinking that the stat overlays in franchise being wrong is 360 related because I didn't see it mentioned in the ps3 thread.

Half the time those stat overlays read (So and so had 0 points against the Heat last night) When I know I just put up 21.

[Fistpick]

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I went to the 2K10 website/forum. They stated that the patch details have been updated for the Xbox but I can't seem to find them.

Maybe they are just the same. Not sure.

Does anyone know what the difference in the two patches are?

I was looking over there for the same thing. There was no update in the initial post so I was wondering if the 360 info was somewhere in the thread but I wasn't going to look through 70 something pages to find out. It deserves it's own thread, that one is already unreadable.

[Bornindamecca]

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You're right. I wish people would take the stance that they have, however, and stop acting like you're defending the casual consumer.

I didn't mean to confuse you. I'm not trying to defend the casual consumer at all. Everyone who buys this game falls under the umbrella that I described in my post.

You can work around pretty much most of your issues, can you not? If you're here on OS, you're an informed gamer. You know they're patching X, Y and Z.

I can't work around any of the issues I have with the game, because I'm only playing My Player, and that mode isn't able to be customized. I also can't work around any server issues, but hopefully that will be patched. Regardless, that isn't something that I complain about. Like in this thread, I'll mention it, but it's within the context of the discussion, and not within the context of a complaint.

What does that make you when you keep complaining about it?

I don't think anything I've written on these message boards has redefined me in any way.

Old school members here worked with developers in making our games better, not telling them what to do. It's that latter mindset and not the former that is permeating the community now, for some unknown reason.

I wasn't here during the Inside Drive days, so I can't speak on what old school members have done versus new school members. If you think people are out of line, all you can do is moderate. I don't recall ever personally telling a developer what to do.

I remember you saying in the Live forum that time was something they certainly did not have enough of. The same can probably be said here. It seems like the patch will prove that, and we as a community of knowledgeable gamers to understand that. (EDIT: And carry ourselves as such.)

On the one hand, you have to remember that you are privy to more knowledge than most of us here. If you hadn't mentioned the defensive fixes, no one here would know of it. If people haven't read your post, they still might not know. So if someone is complaining about defensive behaviors in 2k10 after reading about the patch, they are not being redundant from their perspective.

In any event, I'm not condoning nor condemning the comments made by any or all of the community. Some people take things too far, and some are right on point. My post was to address the issue of entitlement, which has a few more dimensions than which you originally described. If I wasn't clear to you, I apologize, but I'll do my best to boil it down to the empirical:

Customers are entitled to some things and not others.

[Pared]

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Not to minimize your point, but the comments throughout the forums show some individuals don't feel the same way.

Either way, it's beyond the scope of the thread at this moment. No need to belabor my point.

[CBAT]

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MY PLAYER

- Fixed an issue that would cause a clone of the user’s player to be created when changing teams at the end of the Summer Circuit. Existing cloned players will be removed with this patch.

- Tuned the substitution logic such that users should no longer be substituted out only to be substituted in at the next dead ball.

- The logic that determines whether or not you get an invite to Training Camp, make the NBA team, and get an invite from an NBA team while in the NBA D-League have all been changed to be a little more forgiving.

- Resolved an issue where the 2K Insider was not informing the user of his/her contract status at the conclusion of a 10-day contract.

- Fixed a rare case that would cause a hang during the offseason following a My Player season.

- Animation packages will no longer be reset to the ‘best’ package every time a corresponding attribute is upgraded.

- The user’s ‘Drills Remaining’ value will now be properly saved as new drills are accumulated throughout the NBA/D-League season.

Disappointing.

[drewbaby1414]

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PARED,

Could you shed any light on the differnces between the xbox and ps3 patch?

Also, could you use your 2K insider connection to find out if the patch will have effect on our current association?

I am sure that the game play parts of the patch will work. What I am concerned about is player progression/moral/contracts and shot tendencies.

Just don't want to get deep in the association if these patches won't apply to current.

Thanks brother.

[Pared]

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I believe it was mentioned already that you wouldn't have to restart your association or MyPlayer mode.

The only difference I can think of would be the Custom arena sounds.

From my understand there are many more fixes than were listed, hence the "and other fixes" comment.

It does seem apparent they read a majority of the complaints on the forums.

[Kujo]

Wow, quite the list of fixes. Great to see that they're fixing the alley-oop issue. Kind of amazing that they missed these many things during the QA/testing of the game prior to it hitting the presses.

2K10 is about to get a lot better.

[JBH3]

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Thanks for the detailed list Court_vision!

[Boilerbuzz]

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great post once again.

I would absolutely love if 2k could act like the Madden team in regards to community feedback.

example. Hey guys this is Simballer, were thinking of making a my player mode, if we did what do you think we should include?


Something along those lines. But i know EXACTLY why they dont and Madden can..... its called competition.

And unfortunately for us it forces 2k to Limit community interactivity during the game making process.

I find this actually comical. Anyone that's been here and contributed over the years KNOWS that 2K is (or was) WAY more involved in the community than EA.

I'm not poking at your stance specifically. I just think that part is weird. Maybe things have changed, but I don't feel that. It's clear that guys like Pared and Momentus have a direct line of communication to 2K. We also know that they post here.

But you are 100% correct. THere's no way 2K could have given us hints of a new mode like My Player for fear of being copied by Live. It's the right decision. But, I'm sure that if it's clear that changing minutes wouldn't HURT the mode, they would allow it. So, we just have to trust them on this one.