Attention to detail in Jordan Challenge (Big Pics inside)

[Muzyk23]

Re: Attention to detail in Jordan Challenge (Big Pics inside)

I've been one of the biggest advocates of the pickiness in the art in games... Jerseys, court colors, arenas.

Now they are taking it up a whole notch with classic teams and historic graphic art.

That's mighty bold of them.

lakers have had the wrong jersey trim since 2k6, and they want to add in all this other work, when the current stuff is just as hard to accomplish.

I'm beyond that whole phase and enjoy the games for what they are. but I totally understand the desire for accuracy.

It just got 10 times harder for them. They will either buckle under pressure and we'll see massive complaints, or they will finally get it right

also..in many people's minds this is not a big deal at all

all in all, gaming community demands perfect the game

[youvalss]

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I hardly ever complain about accessories and stuff for current players anymore (except for the calf sleeve-sock bug!!!). Mainly because I can edit it for the most part, and also because players tend to change accessories and stuff during the season, and sometimes it's hard to be accurate when you're not 100% sure what the player will be wearing.*

But with classic teams/players, it's completely different. We know exactly what they wore back then - even during the specific games that we have in the Jordan Challenge. the thing is, that some of them, especially MJ, had their SIGNATURE accesories/shoes. It's really important for me to see MJ 100% accurate to each season, because it's all been said and done, it's not new. It just takes watching some old games (not a problem at all to get those games), and attention to details.




* Yeah, I'm playing the PC version, but I hardly ever download patches and stuff. I used to do that years ago (with other sports games), But I guess I've become too lazy, and it's not as a big of a deal as it was for me in the past.

[KyotoCarl]

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I hardly ever complain about accessories and stuff for current players anymore (except for the calf sleeve-sock bug!!!). Mainly because I can edit it for the most part, and also because players tend to change accessories and stuff during the season, and sometimes it's hard to be accurate when you're not 100% sure what the player will be wearing.*

But with classic teams/players, it's completely different. We know exactly what they wore back then - even during the specific games that we have in the Jordan Challenge. the thing is, that some of them, especially MJ, had their SIGNATURE accesories/shoes. It's really important for me to see MJ 100% accurate to each season, because it's all been said and done, it's not new. It just takes watching some old games (not a problem at all to get those games), and attention to details.




* Yeah, I'm playing the PC version, but I hardly ever download patches and stuff. I used to do that years ago (with other sports games), But I guess I've become too lazy, and it's not as a big of a deal as it was for me in the past.

I was watching Bulls - Heat Round 1 series of the 1996 playoffs. Jordan wears his wrist sweat band on his elbow in two of the games, but not in the third.

My point is, if they have it lower down or on the elbow doesn't matter that much, cause he wore it differently in different games. That's why we shouldn't nitpick. Accessories aren't fixed to players' bodies, they take it on and off.

[youvalss]

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I was watching Bulls - Heat Round 1 series of the 1996 playoffs. Jordan wears his wrist sweat band on his elbow in two of the games, but not in the third.

My point is, if they have it lower down or on the elbow doesn't matter that much, cause he wore it differently in different games. That's why we shouldn't nitpick. Accessories aren't fixed to players' bodies, they take it on and off.

That's true, but not having MJ's red-black calf sleeve is a shame. We can edit bands and pads, but the calf sleeve is a problem because: A) They need to fix the sock bug. B) The "short" calf sleeve in 2K10 was still too long. C) The red-black calf sleeve was a MJ signature accessory.

I'm ok with forearm bands vs elbow bands - since we can edit that, but the calf sleeve is still a problem. And not only for MJ, but also for other players who wear it.

[KyotoCarl]

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That's true, but not having MJ's red-black calf sleeve is a shame. We can edit bands and pads, but the calf sleeve is a problem because: A) They need to fix the sock bug. B) The "short" calf sleeve in 2K10 was still too long. C) The red-black calf sleeve was a MJ signature accessory.

I'm ok with forearm bands vs elbow bands - since we can edit that, but the calf sleeve is still a problem. And not only for MJ, but also for other players who wear it.

I'm pretty sure they'll get the calf sleeve right. The images we've seen thus far is from a build which is AT LEAST 2 months from the release build. Of course they won't get that wrong.

All "famous", obvious accesories of the players will be in the game cause they are easily identified in a multitude of available games they've probably watched.

[aloncho11]

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Thanks for the comments guys...but again, this thread is not about just accessories...it's about all graphic details being accurate according to the year>from player faces/looks, courts and unis to details like the court logos.

[jd@os]

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I hardly ever complain about accessories and stuff for current players anymore (except for the calf sleeve-sock bug!!!). Mainly because I can edit it for the most part, and also because players tend to change accessories and stuff during the season, and sometimes it's hard to be accurate when you're not 100% sure what the player will be wearing.*

But with classic teams/players, it's completely different. We know exactly what they wore back then - even during the specific games that we have in the Jordan Challenge. the thing is, that some of them, especially MJ, had their SIGNATURE accesories/shoes. It's really important for me to see MJ 100% accurate to each season, because it's all been said and done, it's not new. It just takes watching some old games (not a problem at all to get those games), and attention to details.




* Yeah, I'm playing the PC version, but I hardly ever download patches and stuff. I used to do that years ago (with other sports games), But I guess I've become too lazy, and it's not as a big of a deal as it was for me in the past.

100% agree.

My biggest thing is this though...

Let's say I want to play a season with the 1998 Bulls, who are on the game as their playoff-version selves. My biggest hope is that they are wearing white shoes if we play them in a season (I think it's common sense that 2K will have that team wearing black shoes in the Jordan Challenge). I could care less about Rodman's hair color, but I just can't play with the Bulls during a season wearing black shoes, and I can't play with them in the playoffs wearing white shoes. It just wouldn't feel right, and I know I'm not the only Jordan fan who feels that way.

[youvalss]

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100% agree.

My biggest thing is this though...

Let's say I want to play a season with the 1998 Bulls, who are on the game as their playoff-version selves. My biggest hope is that they are wearing white shoes if we play them in a season (I think it's common sense that 2K will have that team wearing black shoes in the Jordan Challenge). I could care less about Rodman's hair color, but I just can't play with the Bulls during a season wearing black shoes, and I can't play with them in the playoffs wearing white shoes. It just wouldn't feel right, and I know I'm not the only Jordan fan who feels that way.

^^ Definitely! I couldn't bring myself to play with the any of the 90's Bulls in the playoffs if they wore white shoes. Sounds crazy, but I remember I loved to watch the Bulls first playoff games just to see what the shoes looked like...especially MJ's.

By the way...I know the Bulls started wearing black shoes in the playoffs from the 1988-89 season. But didn't MJ have black Air Jordan I ? I mean, I know he wore the white ones (if you can call it white) during the 63-point game, but I'm pretty sure he also wore black ones. Was it during a All-Star game (1985, he was injured during the 1986 ASG) or something?

And didn't MJ wear black AJ3? I know he wore them in the 1988 ASG, but that's it? Only for one game?

[jd@os]

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^^ Definitely! I couldn't bring myself to play with the any of the 90's Bulls in the playoffs if they wore white shoes. Sounds crazy, but I remember I loved to watch the Bulls first playoff games just to see what the shoes looked like...especially MJ's.

By the way...I know the Bulls started wearing black shoes in the playoffs from the 1988-89 season. But didn't MJ have black Air Jordan I ? I mean, I know he wore the white ones (if you can call it white) during the 63-point game, but I'm pretty sure he also wore black ones. Was it during a All-Star game (1985, he was injured during the 1986 ASG) or something?

And didn't MJ wear black AJ3? I know he wore them in the 1988 ASG, but that's it? Only for one game?

Good questions. The only time I remember seeing MJ with black AJ1s was in the dunk contest. And I think he did only wear the black AJ3 in the All*Star game since that's where he would break the black ones out (could be wrong on that one though, but maybe not since the NBA still fined players for not conforming to the rest of the team back then too I think. I remember he was fined in the '95 playoffs for wearing the famous white AJXI when the rest of the team wore black shoes, but I know he didn't wear them in every playoff game).

[EmmittSmithx22x]

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Horace Grant....Man those were some big goggles. lol

[aloncho11]

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Good questions. The only time I remember seeing MJ with black AJ1s was in the dunk contest. And I think he did only wear the black AJ3 in the All*Star game since that's where he would break the black ones out (could be wrong on that one though, but maybe not since the NBA still fined players for not conforming to the rest of the team back then too I think. I remember he was fined in the '95 playoffs for wearing the famous white AJXI when the rest of the team wore black shoes, but I know he didn't wear them in every playoff game).

The only time time MJ wore the black AJ1s was in the 85 slam dunk contest. He couldn't were them on regular season or playoff games since they were banned by the league.

jd@os is right, he began wearing black sneakers for all-star games from 1988 onwards (with 1996 being the exception were he wore a pair of all white AJs)

[youvalss]

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I'm wondering...were those black AJ1's sold in stores back then?

[aloncho11]

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Not sure maybe not, maybe they were a rare item.

[VDusen04]

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I'm wondering...were those black AJ1's sold in stores back then?

Actually, those Jordan I's being banned by the NBA was a marketing dream for Nike, prompting the classic "Banned" promotion.
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[youvalss]

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^^ Yeah, I've seen this one. So, if "The NBA can't stop you from wearing them", it means that they were sold in stores. But still, must be pretty rare.