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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

    Originally posted by ehh
    Right, but in both of these instances it is. There's no circle inside the Dallas logo meaning it is the size of the jumpball circle. There would have to be lines differentiating it from the logo if the logo was not the regulation size of the jumpball circle.


    There are no lines showing this in the retail version of the game. If anything then, the logo is too big.

    But again, it's a visual trick. The courts are modeled to scale.
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    • easondew
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 10

      #167
      Game looks Great! so far but one thing that stood out for me was when the lady was in the middle of giving her presentation she was interrupted by the anouncers yelling WOHHHHHHH!!!!! after Heywood dunks which is fine but when they are done she then should be able to continue with what she is there to report or not be able to interrupt her until she is finnished.

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      • coolcras7
        MVP
        • Sep 2009
        • 2337

        #168
        Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

        As someone already said you can only judge the court spacing when the user in on offense and it look fine then, but when he is on defense the AI keeps having to adjust to make up for his inability
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        • COACH WEBB
          Rookie
          • May 2010
          • 353

          #169
          Looks good...the crowd looks so realistic. I may have to get my hands on both of these NBA games this year. Although my last 2k game was 08.
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          • Kaanyr Vhok
            MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 2248

            #170
            Re: New 2k11 vid

            Originally posted by Lakers 24/7
            Yea that's the arcade mode thankfully because it definitely looked like cheese. Can't wait to see how it runs at sim.
            It was said that it was running default/sim which sounds weird because I thought the default was normal/pro

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            • FewZ0NE
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 34

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

              Originally posted by Pared


              There are no lines showing this in the retail version of the game. If anything then, the logo is too big.

              But again, it's a visual trick. The courts are modeled to scale.
              Yeah, I figured if you zoomed it out it would be fine. As long as those dimensions in the practice pic are in there, it shouldn't matter what we see, the room will be there to operate.

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28959

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

                Originally posted by Pared

                There are no lines showing this in the retail version of the game. If anything then, the logo is too big.

                But again, it's a visual trick. The courts are modeled to scale.
                Well the bottom pic does have the gray/white lines inside the logo. Is that the PC version? If that's the case then it's fine and the logo is in fact bigger. Just can't see it on the 2K11 court.
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                • Lakers 24 7
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 725

                  #173
                  Re: New 2k11 vid

                  If you've seen an NBA game in person you'll be shocked as to how small the court looks. When I went to my first game the first thing me and my cousin commented on was how small and crowded the court really is.

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                  • DaReapa
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 119

                    #174
                    Originally posted by TheWorldIsYours
                    Thats because you dont take the time to read the developer insight. Let’s start first and foremost with onball defense

                    This is from one of their insights.




                    It's funny that it seems like none of you guys take the time to read anything. Either that or you dont know how to read, seeing as most of yall are reminding me of 3rd graders anyway.

                    If you cant read the quoted part and understand what is trying to be said, I guess their's no hope for you.
                    FYI, I have read every developer’s insight for the game (as hinted by me mentioning about 2K's promoting of the game) - particularly the one regarding defense. As I’ve stated, they have said little about defense in comparison to all other features within the game – basically no more that what was mention in that article. Which is all the more reason why it worries me about the lack of defense judging by what's presented in this physical demo, regardless of what's written in the developer's insights. If YOU prefer to look at the game with a blind eye through rose colored glasses, then so be it. This is MY opinion based off of what I’ve witness in the video clip - not off some off-branded insights that may or may not actually be concurrent with the final product. And being a fan of the series and seeing how the last two games have turned out, I have every right to that.

                    Anyway, back OT - judging by Ronnie’s twitter post, unfortunately, this is not casual mode.

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                    • Nokstar
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 225

                      #175
                      Re: New 2k11 vid

                      disapointed...only improvement i see is maaybe dunks and animations...everything else pretty much looks the same to me.

                      Its just one short vid tho...i want to be able to see better controll visually...still seems like some canimations keep you from controlling at some points....i dont know man.

                      We'll see.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #176
                        Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        Well the bottom pic does have the gray/white lines inside the logo. Is that the PC version? If that's the case then it's fine and the logo is in fact bigger. Just can't see it on the 2K11 court.
                        Yes, PC.

                        It's not the court sizes. They shrunk the player sizes last year and that helped immensely.

                        It's the control that limits the feeling of spacing. Moves cover too much ground and the clunky control didn't help.

                        It should be much better this year, especially the plays. A lot of work was put into them.

                        Many of the camera angle have different levels of depth, that's why when you play from the nosebleed angle things look like they are sized very well. It's this level of depth that really screws up the perceived sizing of the courts.

                        It's not people are wrong... they "look" off, but the camera angle plays a big part of it.
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                        • bearschicago
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 674

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          Well the bottom pic does have the gray/white lines inside the logo. Is that the PC version? If that's the case then it's fine and the logo is in fact bigger. Just can't see it on the 2K11 court.
                          Pared, the bottom pic is 2K9. And we all know 2K9 had very bad court spacing/player size.

                          For 2K10 they scaled it much better:

                          We got a ton of feedback about players being scaled inaccurately last year. Well, we made it a priority to have the players be better scaled to the court. You will notice that they seem more life-size compared to their surroundings and each other. This has improved the look of the gameplay, since now game reactions are more realistic.

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

                            Originally posted by DaReapa
                            Anyway, back OT - judging by Ronnie’s twitter post, unfortunately, this is not casual mode.
                            The video, according to him, is NOT on sim mode:
                            The Gamescon demo is set as default gamesim. I have been trying to capture some footage for you all the past couple days at sim level.

                            BTW when I said "gamesim" earlier, I obviously meant gamestyle.
                            Bears, I'm using it as an example of depth perception. Actually that is 2k10 PC.
                            Last edited by Pared; 08-18-2010, 03:11 PM.
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                            • NINJAK2
                              *S *dd*ct
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 6185

                              #179
                              Re: New 2k11 vid

                              Originally posted by Lakers 24/7
                              If you've seen an NBA game in person you'll be shocked as to how small the court looks. When I went to my first game the first thing me and my cousin commented on was how small and crowded the court really is.
                              Co-sign. I know Phil Jax has been wanting the league to expand the dimensions of the court for years since players are getting bigger and bigger.
                              EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                              • basehead617
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 463

                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

                                Originally posted by bearschicago
                                Pause it at 3:28 Look at the length/distance between the 3-point line and the halfcourt line. Now compare it to 2K11 demo video. It's quite obvious.<object height="385" width="640">
                                <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SzaT9ItKMbY?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="640"></object>
                                Uh, you know broadcast camera dimensions are squished right? ever been to an ACTUAL game?

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