NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

[Jonesy]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

This thread is hilarious

So far it's been

First leaked vid = (negative), word gets out its not on sim setting = (negative) People start defending the game = (negative), Pared and others start defending the game = (negative) More vids start leaking = (positive), More vids = (positive), Mike W chimes in again as does Da Wolf = (positive).




OS is so funny this time of year and it happens every year.

Game looks great to me, presentation is phenomenal and I can't wait to get my greedy little mits on the demo.

[eko718]

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dunno about that...can't say a lot of players try to lay it up off the top of the backboard? it's a lot less accurate. i'd say rondo does it the most but it's definitely not ideal on a normal layup.

and sorry, it might not have been in the specific video in the first post but what i was talking about definitely happened in the other videos that are out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiCGHX9jbYc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLh8LcaTKns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSa8hqyQYBM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWONNST35vU

Didn't say the 'top of the backboard', but plenty leave it on the top corner of the box. *Shorter* guys tend to put it higher on the glass when defenders are around.

I do agree however that where Chalmers put it off the glass in that video was mighty high, having looked at it again.

[RipCity71252]

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I wish 2k had some animations where the player is up high and his hand is close enough to the rim where he could just slam it home, but decides to just drop it in softly... with no backboard.

[eko718]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

This thread is hilarious

So far it's been

First leaked vid = (negative), word gets out its not on sim setting = (negative) People start defending the game = (negative), Pared and others start defending the game = (negative) More vids start leaking = (positive), More vids = (positive), Mike W chimes in again as does Da Wolf = (positive).




OS is so funny this time of year and it happens every year.

Game looks great to me, presentation is phenomenal and I can't wait to get my greedy little mits on the demo.

Lol. Good breakdown.

[Vast]

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I wish 2k had some animations where the player is up high and his hand is close enough to the rim where he could just slam it home, but decides to just drop it in softly... with no backboard.

In the old 2k games way back in the day, The layups never used the backboard. lol I used to come on these boards like in 2004 and complain, asking for more backboard layups.

[VDusen04]

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that circus pull up fadeaway was a little alarming and also, why do players lay the ball so high off the glass? this has been happening for years. most layups are tossed around the square not way above it.

I saw that as well (overuse of high glass). I just mentioned it in another thread but this seems to be the place where it's being discussed. There are certainly many times where players will use the high window to finish a shot, but not as many as 2K11 portrays. As such, some of those layups in the videos we saw looked a little unnatural.

RipCity mentioned the "dunk lay-in" and I think that'd be a great implementation. I also wouldn't mind layups at the backboard; where a player could slap the board if he wanted because he was up around the rim, yet not still not high enough to dunk. Honest question because I cannot remember well, are there layups like this (video below) in 2K right now, where it's more or less dropped in and not really shot in any way?

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I liked most of everything else I saw though. A lot of those dunks look fresh and nice. I think I read something about how 2K doesn't like using animations older than 2 years in age. They had a dunking revolution last year, so hopefully combining just 2K10 dunks and 2K11 dunks, all the dunks should look great.

[eko718]

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^^^I've seen Lebron do that often. Would be great if it was somehow incorporated into the game.

[domidomdomz]

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Hey Mike in NBA 2K11 can we split the double teams?

For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODILU...eature=related

Actually, that can be done in 2K10. After running through your teammate's pick, do a quick change of direction crossover.

Here's a vid: http://community.2ksports.com/commun...ediaid=2438781

one guy did like 10 of them in a row in one possession. lol. Yeah, you can pass fake on the move.

Sorry, should clarify. If you press the pass fake button, you will always come to a stop. There are fake pass layups, but not everyone has them.

Mike, I already tweeted you this but will ask again here anyway. Are fake passes only overhead passes? Do the game also has fake bounce passes for post-up entry situations. Game is really looking great and fresh.

[Maar_Maar]

who ever is playin must not know how to play basketball? lol! But nice video........

[bearschicago]

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Actually, that can be done in 2K10. After running through your teammate's pick, do a quick change of direction crossover.

Here's a vid: http://community.2ksports.com/commun...ediaid=2438781




Mike, I already tweeted you this but will ask again here anyway. Are fake passes only overhead passes? Do the game also has fake bounce passes for post-up entry situations. Game is really looking great and fresh.

Yes but the AI CPU in 2K10 never split a double team or tried to dribble out of a double team. At least I've never seen it. They either pass/lose the ball/reach-in foul/jump-ball or in rare cases shoot the ball.

[domidomdomz]

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Yes but the AI CPU in 2K10 never split a double team or tried to dribble out of a double team. At least I've never seen it. They either pass/lose the ball/reach-in foul/jump-ball or in rare cases shoot the ball.

Yeah AI didn't utilize all the available moves in 2k10. Have you asked Mike about this?

[bearschicago]

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Yeah AI didn't utilize all the available moves in 2k10. Have you asked Mike about this?

Sorry I don't have a Twitter account. I guess I could PM him but he has never replied back when I did a few times. However, I made a ultimate sim wishlist which Mike and the 2K Team looked at. Many of the things I wanted are in the game which is great!!

I'm wondering if 2K11 will finally include a simple animation of offball defenders 'putting a hand on the man he is guarding' especially within 15 feet? This occurs all the time in the NBA.

This will prevent cheap backdoor cuts/lead pass as well as providing some resistance when players try and cut to the rim.

First basketball video game to implement this animation will go a long way in the Sim department.

Also the lead pass needs to be toned down. Currently it is too fast and accurate. Needs to be fixed in two ways.

1. Lead pass is slow but accurate.
2. Lead pass is fast but not as accurate(have to gather to catch the ball).

For more info on this: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...realistic.html

Also the ultimate Sim wishlist. I posted this also on 2K Sports forums and also PM'd it to SimBaller here on OperationSports. He hasn't replied to me yet.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...shlist-54.html Post #539 and 540.

Beluba, could you please provide an answer or is it too early to discuss gameplay? Perhaps could you mention at least that you guys are tweaking on lead pass/passing in general and adding a simple animation of 'offball defenders putting a hand' on their man?

Would be much appreciated especially within this Sim community.

Sorry. It's too early to disclose info. Once we get closer to ship I'll be happy to share more details on what you can expect for 2K11. We have read your wishlist though and are incorporating your feedback the best we can.

Please take a look and tell me what you think: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...shlist-54.html Post #539 and 540

I also posted this in the 2K Forums awhile back and got good responses: http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263020


After watching these vids I'm really stoked!!

[TheEasyEntertainment]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

pretty cool

[bearschicago]

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domidomdomz, if you want to you can send this link to Mike on Twitter: http://www.operationsports.com/vBull...ever-uses.html

Any more that you feel is missing please feel free to add and send it to Mike.

I did see in these vids LeBron take a stepback jumper.

[domidomdomz]

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@bearschicago

you got a solid and plenty of ideas there. If they incorporate some/most of them, that would be really great. By the way, I tweeted Mike about the Animations/things the AI CPU never uses.