NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

**sleepytercel** · 08-18-2010, 02:07 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by Pared

This is COMPLETELY unnecessary. STOP.

If you look at his post history, he is clearily a troll. It's the only reason I responded in that manner.

**threes_co** · 08-18-2010, 02:07 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

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On-ball d is definitely improved @ 1:33 and 1:38.
There should have been contact @ 1:43, but this is casual mode, so..
I love the scoreboard, much more TV broadcast-like than 2k10.
Overall this vid was pretty encouraging.

**youvalss** · 08-18-2010, 02:07 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by Furq

Ronnie said on twitter that the gamescon demo is set at default gamesim

Here's the quote:

The Gamescon demo is set as default gamesim. I have been trying to capture some footage for you all the past couple days at sim level.

So default = Casual, or what?

**bearschicago** · 08-18-2010, 02:08 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by mrnoobie

never noticed how the length between the 3point line and the halfcourt line...that is a huge gap inbetween...

Yes! I've been saying this for the past couple of months!! Finally someone sees the light!! lol

But in all seriousness:

Originally posted by Dewie12

Court spacing can mean a couple of things.

The half court player spacing is fine as I see it. Being on a basketball floor with 6'8 220 all around you would be surprised how little space there is. I like that Dallas opened up in a 1-4 and showed some ideas of offensive spacing. Miami less so but the USER was running around like an idiot.

My major concern is they haven't addressed the length of the court. From 3pt line to 3pt line it looks and plays incredibly short. This looks worse than 2k10 for me. I don't know why but it does.

It's because of this my man: However, length/distance between 3-point line and halfcourt line is incorrect. Should be 5 feet longer.

Pause it at 3:28 Look at the length/distance between the 3-point line and the halfcourt line. Now compare it to 2K11 demo video. It's quite obvious.

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**sleepytercel** · 08-18-2010, 02:08 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by youvalss

Here's the quote:

So default = Casual, or what?

It could be possible that the demo allows you to change styles then. Which wouldn't be impossible to believe. The NHL11 demo currently out allows you to change Game Styles as well.

**Goffs** · 08-18-2010, 02:10 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by flyboy703

i play both games i enjoy the other more, just because the lack of contact, control, and defense in 2k... i mean there is always a dunk fest in 2k every year... I mean like i said i play both, but in my mind i dont find the GAMEPLAY great... thats what people think is great about 2k, but thats not it its the ANIMATIONS that make the game look good, that people like... Animations dont make the game play, the controls do game play means the person playing the game not the person watching the animation

funny all the talk of gameplay...who was the gameplay designer for Live last year? he was heralded to god like status and now that hes working for 2k again how quickly you forget...food for thought...

**Pared** · 08-18-2010, 02:10 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by flyboy703

i play both games i enjoy the other more, just because the lack of contact, control, and defense in 2k... i mean there is always a dunk fest in 2k every year... I mean like i said i play both, but in my mind i dont find the GAMEPLAY great... thats what people think is great about 2k, but thats not it its the ANIMATIONS that make the game look good, that people like... Animations dont make the game play, the controls do game play means the person playing the game not the person watching the animation

Preaching about the controls in a thread about a demo video is a complete waste of time at this point.

Originally posted by sleepytercel

If you look at his post history, he is clearily a troll. It's the only reason I responded in that manner.

It doesn't justify your post.

Enough with the Elite vs. 2k comments fellas. We're not going down that route. Not this year.

**youvalss** · 08-18-2010, 02:11 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

It bugs me that Harlan and Kellogg scream (after the dunk) while that lady is talking, which ended her talk. At least if she went back to talk after that...

**DaReapa** · 08-18-2010, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by youvalss

I really hope it's the "Casual" (arcade?) game mode.

I'm hoping that, too. Defense was virtually nonexistent in that clip. It looked more like a dunkfest than anything. That's the one thing that somewhat bothered me up to this point with 2K promoting this game....I've heard very little in the way of improvements on the defensive AI.

**ProtoPunch** · 08-18-2010, 02:14 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

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**Dewie12** · 08-18-2010, 02:15 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by bearschicago

Pause it at 3:28 Look at the length/distance between the 3-point line and the halfcourt line. Now compare it to 2K11 demo video. It's quite obvious.

You are right on. This helps explain why the transistion game doesn't matter as much in 2k. Speedier players (especially big men) don't have enough room to run to the rim (of course 2k also nuetered them with stopping at half court AI).

This is sad. Really takes away from what is probably shaping up to be a great game again. One fatal flaw that will contribute to the poor transition game. And I know this isn't something that can be "patched" in. This would take a complete rework of all the 3d modeled stadiums.

**Goffs** · 08-18-2010, 02:15 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by ProtoPunch

?

its like an odd little radar...you can even see it animate during gameplay...

**flyboy703** · 08-18-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by mrnoobie

funny all the talk of gameplay...who was the gameplay designer for Live last year? he was heralded to god like status and now that hes working for 2k again how quickly you forget...food for thought...

mike wang isnt the lead gameplay designer for 2k he is a senior engineer so that means nothing to me... mike wangs job was to bring some of the crowd over to the live side, so in an essence he failed, meaning i dont think EA sports took it as a loss when he went back to 2k sports... Now most of the team thats working on NBA elite is the team from nba live 05 which i can say was the better game back then. So seeing that they had the better game back then I can see them making huge strides this year maybe not taking the crown, because even 2k took a few years to do that, but making a huge stride in the right direction, way better than anything mike wang ever did.. Food for thought

**aloncho11** · 08-18-2010, 02:16 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video (possibly casual-mode): From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by youvalss

Here's the quote:

So default = Casual, or what?

Maybe it has something to do with the difficulty level of the demo and not the gamestyle. Demos tend to be in a an easy-to mid difficulty levels and that maybe the cause of the ease to drive the lane and dunk it. Just an opinion.

**BDM313** · 08-18-2010, 02:16 PM

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

Originally posted by bearschicago

Yes! I've been saying this for the past couple of months!! Finally someone sees the light!! lol

But in all seriousness:

It's because of this my man: However, length/distance between 3-point line and halfcourt line is incorrect. Should be 5 feet longer.

Pause it at 3:28 Look at the length/distance between the 3-point line and the halfcourt line. Now compare it to 2K11 demo video. It's quite obvious.

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Agreed I Also Had A Thread On It...Gotta Play The Game To See If It Really Is A Problem Tho From The Looking Standpoint Not To Good.

NBA 2K11 Video: From the Demo at Gamescom

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