NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: Expanded Playcall System

[Low End Theory]

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What other defenses should their be in the NBA besides those basic one. Because I don't know any team that plays a 2-1-2 in the NBA. they may play it in FIBA. But this game is called NBA 2k11 for a reason guys...lol

No team in the NBA runs a pure zone defense. But that doesn't mean zones aren't a part of NBA defense, especially since they took out the Illegal Defense rule a few years ago. The point is, that just like in the NBA, I would like my defensive sets not to be limited to 4 simple plays. NBA defenses are much more complex. For example, I've been dying to try a Box and 1 zone against the OKC starting lineup, but in 2k10 that just wasn't possible.

You're right no one (that I saw) used a 2-1-2 zone in the NBA this past season. But you can bet your *** that if Turkey has any success with that zone if they play the USA in the FIBA, someone will give it a shot this upcoming season. Its called NBA 2k11 for a reason Holmes... lol

[greekmen]

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No team in the NBA runs a pure zone defense. But that doesn't mean zones aren't a part of NBA defense, especially since they took out the Illegal Defense rule a few years ago. The point is, that just like in the NBA, I would like my defensive sets not to be limited to 4 simple plays. NBA defenses are much more complex. For example, I've been dying to try a Box and 1 zone against the OKC starting lineup, but in 2k10 that just wasn't possible.

You're right no one (that I saw) used a 2-1-2 zone in the NBA this past season. But you can bet your *** that if Turkey has any success with that zone if they play the USA in the FIBA, someone will give it a shot this upcoming season. Its called NBA 2k11 for a reason Holmes... lol

The Illegal Defense is still in. But they changed it. You get an illegal defense when you are standing more than 3 seconds in the paint with no defensive assignment.

[Low End Theory]

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The Defensive 3 second rule is much different from the old Illegal defense rule, because the rule change effectively made the zone available to NBA teams, which was not the case with the old rule. Regardless, that is not the point. I'm trying to argue that we need more options on D

[domidomdomz]

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iLLosophy[/URL]]I would've been happy with the 80 plays in the game - as long as all teams had access to them. If I am the minority with that stance, then ok.

As far as I know, in 2K10, we can assign any offensive plays (all plays) to any team, can't we? That's what I see and can do in PC version at least. Not sure in the consoles.

EDIT: I just tried it and saw that I can select from all the plays available (there are actually 117 plays if my manual count didn't miss).

[Da_Czar]

Hey that's half the battle won right there bro...I'll take it...



I would've been happy with the 80 plays in the game - as long as all teams had access to them. If I am the minority with that stance, then ok.

Really ? Maybe it's just because I have seen the new ones but those old plays were just Terrible.

On a serious note after you see the videos pm me and let me know if you still feel the same. I am honestly looking forward to seeing if you feel the same way.


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[greenegt]

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Ugh, the wait for this game is unbearable. Can't wait to see Czar's vid. I need a 2K11 fix, badly.

[Da_Czar]

this...

oh look Da_Czar is up so whens the vid going up?

or is it in OS's hands...

Haha we need approval once we have that we can post. If it was just up to us would have went live yesterday morning. LOL

They are on the west coast so not even in the office yet.


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[jeebs9]

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No team in the NBA runs a pure zone defense. But that doesn't mean zones aren't a part of NBA defense, especially since they took out the Illegal Defense rule a few years ago. The point is, that just like in the NBA, I would like my defensive sets not to be limited to 4 simple plays. NBA defenses are much more complex. For example, I've been dying to try a Box and 1 zone against the OKC starting lineup, but in 2k10 that just wasn't possible.

You're right no one (that I saw) used a 2-1-2 zone in the NBA this past season. But you can bet your *** that if Turkey has any success with that zone if they play the USA in the FIBA, someone will give it a shot this upcoming season. Its called NBA 2k11 for a reason Holmes... lol

I don't know any teams in the NBA that run a Box and 1 defense. You should check out CHK8 everyone loves that game around here. No gimmick defenses have won the championship in the NBA.

And also while on the subject of zones. I don't think they will ever be totally effective in the NBA. I think its because of the 3 point line being farther then the FIBA and NCAA. With the 3 point line being so far. There is just too much area or zone for each player to cover. Back when J.J Redick was on Duke. I remember him being a huge zone buster. Because he had NBA plus range. He could consistently hit 3's from 30 feet. He would get in the game. Hit two long distance 3's..Timeout the other team lol

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: Expanded Playcall System

Hey that's half the battle won right there bro...I'll take it...



I would've been happy with the 80 plays in the game - as long as all teams had access to them. If I am the minority with that stance, then ok.

Co-sign. I am happy they have more than that but I was more concerned with 2k actually executing plays better more than anything. People moving with a sense of urgency, etc. Looking forward to video.

[ffaacc03]

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Da-Czar, a couple of Q´s ...

did you only did this 1 video or are there other pre-release videos (possibly showing more of this feature or other features) ?

if so, do they have to be approved too ?

and finally, if so, have you already asked for their approvals ?

[DirtyJerz32]

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Haha we need approval once we have that we can post. If it was just up to us would have went live yesterday morning. LOL

They are on the west coast so not even in the office yet.


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Any word yet Czar? Really interested in what you have to say about this. The play calling is something I loved in the other game. Hopefully 2k has it together with this installment.

[Forever_Young83]

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I feel like we're going to play the waitng game again today..

[Da_Czar]

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Da-Czar, a couple of Q´s ...

did you only did this 1 video or are there other pre-release videos (possibly showing more of this feature or other features) ?

if so, do they have to be approved too ?

and finally, if so, have you already asked for their approvals ?

There is more than one. The content has to be approved for all of them. There was a set number but since I am still working my bum off to finish them of course they are not all approved.

So if they don't approve some of the content I only captured so much so that may take the number of shows I do down as I don't currently have the game in front of me to get more footage.

Its a hell of a lot of work and truthfully I can't wait to finish. To try and capture everything you need in a matter of days for a feature like this is daunting at best.

[Da_Czar]

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Any word yet Czar? Really interested in what you have to say about this. The play calling is something I loved in the other game. Hopefully 2k has it together with this installment.

Both games have their advantages and disadvantages to their play calling system. I think 2k found a nice balance especially for a single year turnaround. But even though I am one of you I know its all talk until you can at least see it. So hopefully things go like they should and it gets put up.

When you make a video like that the last thing you want is delay because the expectations rise to a point where even an excellent product is received as MEH cause people had to wait and it wasn't worth that. So I am all for getting the dang thing up as soon as possible...LOL

[jr2424]

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Both games have their advantages and disadvantages to their play calling system. I think 2k found a nice balance especially for a single year turnaround. But even though I am one of you I know its all talk until you can at least see it. So hopefully things go like they should and it gets put up.

When you make a video like that the last thing you want is delay because the expectations rise to a point where even an excellent product is received as MEH cause people had to wait and it wasn't worth that. So I am all for getting the dang thing up as soon as possible...LOL

If it has that Czarisode feel, I can't see a MEH attitude. But love the humility.