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  • Dazraz
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 794

    #16
    Re: The State of the Association

    Originally posted by Fngb3
    I feel like I've been stating the obvious a lot today but, Mr. Bartlett makes a very important point near the bottom. These teams are trying to take human beings doing some of the smoothest, most athletic things human beings can do, and get people the ability to replicate that WITH LIKE 10 BUTTONS. I'm blown away by 2K this year. It's hard to say that because I'm not sure heaping praise on these guys is the best way for me to get the best basketball game they can make NEXT year. But credit where credit is due. I think they've done an amazing job, based on the demo. Many thanks
    Absolutely. 2K have done a tremendous job this year.

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    • Rocboyz101
      MVP
      • Aug 2009
      • 1550

      #17
      Re: The State of the Association

      Just weird, this may be the first year where I can't think of one thing the other game has over 2k..It was jumpshooting and playcalling last year but this yr..idk.
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      • Airmaxpenny1
        Rookie
        • Aug 2010
        • 56

        #18
        Great read. Playing games like fifa make me yearn for basketball titles that give me an authentic simulation. NBA2k has always been close in giving me that responsiveness but I think this year will be a year to remember.
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        • Phreezy P
          MVP
          • Jan 2010
          • 3219

          #19
          Re: The State of the Association

          Originally posted by Rocboyz101
          Just weird, this may be the first year where I can't think of one thing the other game has over 2k..It was jumpshooting and playcalling last year but this yr..idk.
          Exactly. The physics didn't work out so well eithet.
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          • jordankobewade7
            Rookie
            • Jun 2009
            • 139

            #20
            Originally posted by Rocboyz101
            Just weird, this may be the first year where I can't think of one thing the other game has over 2k..It was jumpshooting and playcalling last year but this yr..idk.
            Live10 did not have better jumpshooting than 2k10....all the jumpshots in live had the releases on the way down,most of them anyway. The players barely get off the ground when they shoot either. Not to mention hardly any sig shots?and guess what that lead to?a bunch of players getting stuck with that default shot,and on that one they don't even jump so it gets blocked all the time...

            yea,playcalling was better for sure,but jumpshooting?nice try sneaking that one into ur post

            Ps,another really irritating thing is that players never dive out of bounds on live 10 they just run out,which idky but it really irritate because diving let's you reach farther faster,and a better representation of hustle,so it bothered me it was left out...anywho,2k is off the chain this year,all they needed was improved dribbling and more of the same focus on association,they've def done that so this willprove to be the best yet...

            Especially because 2kshare will fill in all the holes when it comes to missing teams/players like the 93 suns

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            • Rocboyz101
              MVP
              • Aug 2009
              • 1550

              #21
              Re: The State of the Association

              Originally posted by jordankobewade7
              Live10 did not have better jumpshooting than 2k10....all the jumpshots in live had the releases on the way down,most of them anyway. The players barely get off the ground when they shoot either. Not to mention hardly any sig shots?and guess what that lead to?a bunch of players getting stuck with that default shot,and on that one they don't even jump so it gets blocked all the time...

              yea,playcalling was better for sure,but jumpshooting?nice try sneaking that one into ur post

              Ps,another really irritating thing is that players never dive out of bounds on live 10 they just run out,which idky but it really irritate because diving let's you reach farther faster,and a better representation of hustle,so it bothered me it was left out...anywho,2k is off the chain this year,all they needed was improved dribbling and more of the same focus on association,they've def done that so this willprove to be the best yet...

              Especially because 2kshare will fill in all the holes when it comes to missing teams/players like the 93 suns
              lol fanatics always overreact...
              I'm not sneaking anything into my posts I strongly believe that.
              I liked lives jumpshooting alot more because the stars and most of the other players had much more accurate sig jumpers. And live had Great momentum shots meanwhile 2k10 did not. 2k10 had terrible jumpshooting, the terrible spacing and crazy closeouts ruined that part of the game. This year 2k11 looks to have the best jumpshooting ever..aswell as spacing.
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              Look behind you, I'm bout to pass you twice
              Back to the future and gotta slow up for the present
              I'm fast, dudes can't get past my past
              How they supposed to deal with my perfect present?"

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              • jubba910
                Rookie
                • Jan 2009
                • 135

                #22
                EA will probably fold next year, so they can bring all of those dudes to 2K and help make an even more awesome 2K12
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                • vexx007
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stickz24
                  What ? I like a sim game as much as the next man -- but from a business stand point. Not enough people understand basketball to appreciate a true basketball sim. They'd be coaches .. if they did. The true sim gm we ask for would turn 60-70 of the 2k population off. I'ma just enjoy the best gm out .. as my video game retirement date is fast approaching.
                  I feel you.

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                  • NDAlum
                    ND
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 11453

                    #24
                    Re: The State of the Association

                    I was expecting a story about the Association lol
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                    • J-H!zZl3
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 423

                      #25
                      Re: The State of the Association

                      Originally posted by NDAlum
                      I was expecting a story about the Association lol
                      You aren't the only one who thought this at first...lol.

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                      • SBartlett
                        Staff Writer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 152

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Rocboyz101
                        lol fanatics always overreact...
                        I'm not sneaking anything into my posts I strongly believe that.
                        I liked lives jumpshooting alot more because the stars and most of the other players had much more accurate sig jumpers. And live had Great momentum shots meanwhile 2k10 did not. 2k10 had terrible jumpshooting, the terrible spacing and crazy closeouts ruined that part of the game. This year 2k11 looks to have the best jumpshooting ever..aswell as spacing.
                        I don't disagree with you on this one Rocboyz. Live 10's jumpshooting was more responsive and fun. Was it more realistic? Maybe, maybe not. It seemed like some guys caught fire for no reason, and the timing on the shots was so random and ratings based. Even when I felt I hit the groove with one player's stroke, wide open looks weren't falling. Now maybe this was the game balancing out the previous two 3's I hit with a player. I think that the DNA really influenced this aspect and detracted from the game's shooting - but it was very minor. In NBA2K10, pulling fade aways off and momentum jumpers are clunky. Meaning: I see an opening on the floor that I want to drive to and take a jump at but the time my player goes through the animation of dribbling to the open space, gathering, and going up, my shot is contested; sometimes even I wound up in the wrong spot on the floor so that was discerning. But, 2K10 did have the edge with the timing and release points on the shots in my opinion. Signature style shots felt about the same to me. I think I would give 2k10 the edge there because of all their great free throw routines - great detail in there. But Live definitely had a nice tight, and responsive feel to your ballers out there and I think that's why so many people enjoyed it - even though it doesn't mirror NBA basketball as much as 2K10 does

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                        • stlstudios189
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2649

                          #27
                          I don't really understand BB much but, I still play the crap out of NBA 2k series
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                          • Carrington618
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 47

                            #28
                            here is my list Jordan vs Bird, double dribble , lakers vs celtics sig shots one player on the team ,bulls vs next 2 , tecmo basketball first game with seasons (well just one) Nba showdown 94 break the back board glass, LIVE 95 ,96 on sega, 97 ps one , 98, 99 lock out , nba 2k on dreamcast 2k 1 first on -line bball console game, 2k 2 , 2k 3 first game with zone D, back to live 04 the freestyle was great after a year live 05 best ever on pc live 06 then bac to 2k07 sig shots on xbox. 2k 8 2k 9 2k10, 2k 11 on PS 3 first console on-line game in 3D with motion controls thats how i ben getting down for the last 20+ years

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                            • SDJHood93
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 405

                              #29
                              Nice article. Really makes me appreciate what these people do to give us a great basketball year in and year out.
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                              • kennyacid
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 1529

                                #30
                                Re: The State of the Association

                                Originally posted by NDAlum
                                I was expecting a story about the Association lol
                                i was thinking the same thing lol

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