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  • RGmoney
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 4681

    #91
    Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

    Originally posted by Dalsanto0026
    That sounds amazing but why can't we have all this in Association as well? Why is it just in NBA Today? I ask because I don't have my 360 connected to the internet so I'll never see this stuff.
    Originally posted by KyotoCarl
    How much of the overlays will we get to see in Association mode? I know we get the "commercial breaks" and halftime report, but do we also get the Around the league thing complete with games which are being played at the same time?
    See my earlier post: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2041671711

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    • BlueNGold
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 21817

      #92
      Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

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      • bonannogiovanni
        MVP
        • Oct 2004
        • 1339

        #93
        Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

        Originally posted by TheBadazz
        It's a wrap. All this comes together right. NBA 2K11 is the new NFL2K5.
        Not yet unfortunately, that presentation level is still unsurpassed:
        • 2k5 had a halftime and a full time show, 2k11 only the former
        • 2K5 had a score ticker with updates on games in progress, then there was sportcenter to wrap up the week, 2k11 has updates at half time but won't recap the games of the day
        • 2k5 had a studio host, 2k11 has only voiceover


        That being said, 2k11 is head and shoulders above today's sport games in terms of presentation, but there's much room for improvements.

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        • ataman5
          MVP
          • Jun 2007
          • 2620

          #94
          Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

          Best sports game of all time!!! Cheers.

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          • ataman5
            MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 2620

            #95
            Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

            Originally posted by BlueNGold
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            Looooll.. Awesome..

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            • Jonesy
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 5382

              #96
              Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

              at BluebGold. That's exactly how i feel after reading that....

              My only question is how the hell do these guys find the time to do all this in one development cycle and how do they fit this much awesomeness on one disc?!

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              • DW3
                MVP
                • Oct 2005
                • 1056

                #97
                Re: 2K Developer Insight: NBA Today 2.0 [Audio]

                My jaw just dropped! I cant believer they added so much in 1 dev cycle!
                Xbox Live- YoKnos
                PSN- YoKnos

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                • spankdatazz22
                  All Star
                  • May 2003
                  • 6219

                  #98
                  Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                  Originally posted by bonannogiovanni
                  Not yet unfortunately, that presentation level is still unsurpassed:
                  • 2k5 had a halftime and a full time show, 2k11 only the former
                  • 2K5 had a score ticker with updates on games in progress, then there was sportcenter to wrap up the week, 2k11 has updates at half time but won't recap the games of the day
                  • 2k5 had a studio host, 2k11 has only voiceover


                  That being said, 2k11 is head and shoulders above today's sport games in terms of presentation, but there's much room for improvements.
                  I don't think you can fault 2K11 for not taking the exact same approach; that shouldn't be what's expected. You're also discounting important presentation elements that 2K11 does that 2K5 doesn't, which are really too numerous to name. Things such as:

                  - arena specific sounds
                  - branching conversation topics
                  - all the post game stuff (pressbook, signature highlights, etc.)
                  - all the NBA Today specific stuff which is specific to a person's Association or the live league

                  I love 2K5 as much as the next person but it's a matter of different approaches. I don't think 2K11 (or any other game) should be expected to do every exact little thing 2K5 did and then some. They may never want to have a digital representation of a studio host for example. But I agree w/you, there'll always be room for improvement. And ultimately I agree that 2K11's head and shoulders (and I'd throw in torso) above what today's sports games are doing presentation-wise

                  Great Insight btw; really looking forward to all of the new stadium-specific sounds and NBA Today 2.0
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                  • STLRams
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2847

                    #99
                    Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                    Originally posted by bonannogiovanni
                    Not yet unfortunately, that presentation level is still unsurpassed:
                    • 2k5 had a halftime and a full time show, 2k11 only the former
                    • 2K5 had a score ticker with updates on games in progress, then there was sportcenter to wrap up the week, 2k11 has updates at half time but won't recap the games of the day
                    • 2k5 had a studio host, 2k11 has only voiceover

                    That being said, 2k11 is head and shoulders above today's sport games in terms of presentation, but there's much room for improvements.

                    I want all of this in NBA2K12, are you listening 2K devs - this is a presenation goal for next year, or if you could patch some of it in this year would be great too.

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                    • johnprestonevans
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 529

                      #100
                      That seals it. The around the league stuff and the awareness of the progressive/dynamic commentary and analysis definitely give this game a shot at defining sports game presentation. I cannot wait for this game.

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                      • johnprestonevans
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 529

                        #101
                        One stupid question: Are these scores and highlights during halftime from REAL NBA games, or games that exist in our franchises? I dont want to watch real (actual) video highlights from the NBA. I hope this is all generated by the game engine as a part of our individual in-game seasons.

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                        • bonannogiovanni
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 1339

                          #102
                          Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                          This statement from Adholbert32, who has the game, answers your "stupid" question and is quite concerning:

                          There are no other scores at least not in the two assoc games I ran. No other game video highlights or even an other game scorebard. Maybe I'm doing something wrong because in the last game I played, there were 2 games already finished before my team's game and the halftime report did not mention them.
                          I hope wholeheartedly there's a workaround.....

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                          • KyotoCarl
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3827

                            #103
                            Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                            Looks like this is just for real NBA games, which kinda sucks. I want to see Around the League in my Association as well.
                            I know the half-time show is in the game complete with "commercials" between quarters but I really hope Around the League and those season stat overlays are in the game too.
                            What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                            My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                            http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                            • bonannogiovanni
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1339

                              #104
                              Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                              Ok, but last year NBA Today was association driven as well, it would be a step back then....

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                              • KyotoCarl
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 3827

                                #105
                                Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

                                Originally posted by bonannogiovanni
                                Ok, but last year NBA Today was association driven as well, it would be a step back then....
                                I agree. Most of the stuff seems to be in Association too though, it's just the Around the League thing which seems to be missing.
                                What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                                My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                                http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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