It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

**lilkobebigmike** · 10-06-2010, 05:44 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by Gosens6

Iv'e always turned off player morale, it becomes ridiculous when players who don't mind coming off the bench IRL, or no they're scrubs, or no they're just with a team to get a ring get upset because they're not getting minutes, or because they've become injured and can't play.

But like I said, the HCA and trades thing is really out of hand.

Yea the Homecourt thing scrares me, the Nba doesn't always play out like that come post season

**TooTall** · 10-06-2010, 05:45 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by pdandy

To be fair to 2k, I was able to have an association where there are consistently 5-8 trades per year not counting off-season. I also see free agents being signed during the season. Still a smal amount of trades but at least there is some activity. However more often than not, I get the same state that Gosen mentioned: 0-2 trades within the season, 0 free agents signed within the season.

Tack on the player role changes that happen when players get badly injured which destroys morale + the ability to field super-teams by year 5 or 6.

I do consider this broken and I feel that 2k10's association out of the box is better than 2k11's association which is sad considering how much effort they put into 2k11.

whoa whoa.

Free agents aren't being signed? Wow, wtf :/

**Jukeman** · 10-06-2010, 05:46 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Trades: +1

Morale/Chemistry: Been Bad; needs hugh upgrade (Chemistry doesnt do anything from my experience)

Player ratings; Too high, little room for progression

Sim engine: Needs fine tuning

Players not taking days off and playing thru injury and fatigue

Morale hits arent a problem, give him more pkaying time or get rid of him...Allen Iverson is known for complaining about his PT due to injury, ask Larry Brown

All for of these have been a problem since Association was named Association...

Not a game breaker for me because I edit, control every team and watch every game play out while PLAYING my games.

**Gosens6** · 10-06-2010, 05:47 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by TooTall

whoa whoa.

Free agents aren't being signed? Wow, wtf :/

It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but a lot of the time you'll see elite free agents go on without being signed.

For example, I just had a 91 overall Rajon Rondo sitting in free agency mostly the entire season for some reason.

as great as this game is, iv'e made up my mind that if 2K can't patch association, i'm trading it in.

**erickonasis** · 10-06-2010, 05:49 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by lilkobebigmike

The ability to Sim games in Association is what makes it so good...no one plays a full 82 game schedule

Not true at all...always play 82 game seasons even if it takes me 6 months to do it. only time i would ever sim a game is if its pre season

**erickonasis** · 10-06-2010, 05:50 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by Birdman

Yes you're on a roll, two dumb posts in a row.

People do it to test, seriously..

Maybe the thread topic is misleading...association mode is far from broken..Maybe for people who like to sim i guess

**lilkobebigmike** · 10-06-2010, 05:51 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I won't go as far as trading it, but it'll definitely be a boring year 4 me Gaming wise, either that or Im gonna have to control every team David Stern style

**Gosens6** · 10-06-2010, 05:51 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by erickonasis

Maybe the thread topic is misleading...association mode is far from broken..Maybe for people who like to sim i guess

Dear god, so what happens when you get to the off-season? or the playoffs and you experience the ridiculous home court advantage?

Or how about when one of your players gets injured, you change their minutes and now they want a trade?

What happens then? Is it still "far from broken"

**lilkobebigmike** · 10-06-2010, 05:55 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by Gosens6

Dear god, so what happens when you get to the off-season? or the playoffs and you experience the ridiculous home court advantage?

Or how about when one of your players gets injured, you change their minutes and now they want a trade?

What happens then? Is it still "far from broken"

Do you think they will Patch this up? Last year Association played great, Biggest problem I had was Big men were shooting an incredible number of threes , so Field Goal Percentage was Down for the league

**TooTall** · 10-06-2010, 05:55 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by Gosens6

It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but a lot of the time you'll see elite free agents go on without being signed.

For example, I just had a 91 overall Rajon Rondo sitting in free agency mostly the entire season for some reason.

as great as this game is, iv'e made up my mind that if 2K can't patch association, i'm trading it in.

That is extremely disappointing to hear. I'm sure that it will be patched but I would have preferred to have known this before I bought the game. Random or not, this sucks.

**erickonasis** · 10-06-2010, 05:55 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by Gosens6

Dear god, so what happens when you get to the off-season? or the playoffs and you experience the ridiculous home court advantage?

Or how about when one of your players gets injured, you change their minutes and now they want a trade?

What happens then? Is it still "far from broken"

I actually play the games so home court advantage doesnt matter to me . Off season i pretty much just skip and hop right into the next. I make majority of my moves during the season...May re sign some players here and there off season but i play with the lakers i dont forsee Kobe wanting to leave anytime soon

**pdandy** · 10-06-2010, 05:56 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by TooTall

whoa whoa.

Free agents aren't being signed? Wow, wtf :/

Just to be clear, free agents are still signed during the offseason. During the season, I've seen many years where there are 0 signings.

**mrprice33** · 10-06-2010, 05:58 PM

Don't you care whether or not the cpu gms make trades or do things that you'd actually see in real life? Sure, you can control the stuff that happens to your team, but the cpu roster management might be broken; that's not a big deal to you?

Originally posted by erickonasis

I actually play the games so home court advantage doesnt matter to me . Off season i pretty much just skip and hop right into the next. I make majority of my moves during the season...May re sign some players here and there off season but i play with the lakers i dont forsee Kobe wanting to leave anytime soon

**Gosens6** · 10-06-2010, 05:58 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Originally posted by lilkobebigmike

Do you think they will Patch this up? Last year Association played great, Biggest problem I had was Big men were shooting an incredible number of threes , so Field Goal Percentage was Down for the league

I have no clue man, I really hope they do. As of now I can't bare to even go into the playoffs, let alone sim a season knowing there will be so many upset players for no reason, and absolutely no trading happening.

Originally posted by erickonasis

I actually play the games so home court advantage doesnt matter to me . Off season i pretty much just skip and hop right into the next. I make majority of my moves during the season...May re sign some players here and there off season but i play with the lakers i dont forsee Kobe wanting to leave anytime soon

When you play the games, HCA really doesn't have that big of an effect, but what about the other teams that made the playoffs, you don't care that you can almost pinpoint which team you will face in the finals because of this.

Wait until you get to the playoffs and see the stupid amount of game 7's that take place and the ridiculous amount of lopsided victories by the home teams in these series

**JohnDoe8865** · 10-06-2010, 06:16 PM

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Hold up. Didn't 2K release an Insight about Association mode saying that they fixed the issue where players lost morale if they didn't get playing time.

Here is the quote:

- Morale & Foul Trouble: A highly requested addition, players will no longer take negative morale hits when they don’t play their desired minutes due to foul trouble. They will now only get mad at themselves and not at you for keeping them off the court!

So why wouldn't this EXACT SAME logic apply to injured players?! It doesn't seem like rocket science.

It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

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