It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

[DarthRambo]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

The coach profiles should change if a new coach comes in. As far as run plays (or any other thing you´d like to change for the new coach, or others) goes, there is an easy fix :

1) Just resign from your position
2) sign with the team with new coach
3) change the profile
4) resign and sign with your original team

changes stay even as you leave that team again.

The same thing works for most other things like player roles or rotation, only they then reset when injuries occur.

For me, for now simply playing without player roles but only controlling 1 team is pretty much the only reasonable way to play and actually get to playing with controlling every little thing.
I also liked that Poker-analogy, doesn´t make much sense seeing all the cards.

That's a good idea, never thought of doing that. I control only the Timberwolves, with player roles/morale, and team chemistry off. With doing what ur saying, I can actually make trades for the AI if I want to by looking at the rumor mill. Let them control FA signings an draft of course. As long as I edit my draft class the FA issue will be fixed. I'll look at the team rotation and if I see something I don't like I will fix it. If I see a coach fired for no reason I can re-hire him with no problems. Thanks for the idea! 2-9 wth the T-wolves so far, lottery pick here we come haha!

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I think one problem is the over inflated potentials on the players on 2k's roster.

To many players have 90+ potential. A guy like Steve Nash shouldnt have a 90 in potential it should be in the 70's since he has already reached his potential.

I think to make this work better your going to have to lower the potential scale. Im going to some editing and make no player have more than a 90 in potential.

Guys like Evans, Wall, Durant, even Lebron will be at the highest.

Guys like Kobe, Duncan, Pierce etc. will be at best an 80.

Also Ill be editing rookies to have lower consistency stats. In the default roster I dont believe any rookie had more than a 60 in consistency.

I, for one, will be editing the potential scale ... but remember, progression is hard coded and slightly altered by playing time ... therefor, the potential rating becomes more of a trade value rating ... so, if you give Nash/Duncan/Pierce a lower rating ... they will get traded more frecuently than expected and for far less value than also expected.

You can have a global scale, but there should be exceptions in order to account for "perceptions".

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

That's a good idea, never thought of doing that. I control only the Timberwolves, with player roles/morale, and team chemistry off. With doing what ur saying, I can actually make trades for the AI if I want to by looking at the rumor mill. Let them control FA signings an draft of course. As long as I edit my draft class the FA issue will be fixed. I'll look at the team rotation and if I see something I don't like I will fix it. If I see a coach fired for no reason I can re-hire him with no problems. Thanks for the idea! 2-9 wth the T-wolves so far, lottery pick here we come haha!

Assuming the team has any budget left for resigning the once fired coach ...

[Serra11]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Another glitch...
the game doesn't save the role changing...
Try change only player role in roster editing and save.
Than load the roster file where you have made your changes...and you'll find the default role...

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Another glitch...
the game doesn't save the role changing...
Try change only player role in roster editing and save.
Than load the roster file where you have made your changes...and you'll find the default role...

For association/season and/or main mode ? ... jeezzz ... I was letting some player role edits to be done at the end, after reediting all players ...

[Serra11]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

For association/season and/or main mode ? ... jeezzz ... I was letting some player role edits to be done at the end, after reediting all players ...

Exemple:
Change player role and save.Start a new association and you WILL see the changes you have made.
But if you exit from the Association,the game will load your saved roster and you WONT see the player role changes you have made.
No problems with ratings,tendencies,shoes etc.. but you cannot save player role change.

[DarthRambo]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Assuming the team has any budget left for resigning the once fired coach ...

True...if not, then I'll change the coach profile if I have to. Its really not a big deal to me with coaches being fired anyway to be honest. If I can rehire(if I feel like the firing was fr no reason), then I will. If not, who cares really...main thing I like that I ca control is FA signings and trades.

[Serra11]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

so, if you give Nash/Duncan/Pierce a lower rating ... they will get traded more frecuently than expected and for far less value than also expected.

Not completely correct.
I gave 25 potential to Nash,Duncan and Dirk BUT Star as role player.
After three years of simmed association,they still had Star role and no one was traded.
Don't rimember if Nash retired after the 2nd or 3rd year...

So a correct player role is very important in Association!

[himynameisangel]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

So, to confirm...these are the problems that need to be addressed:

- teams with horrible away records in regular season
- home court advantage way too high in playoffs
- rookie classes consist of too many high ranked players
- no trades after year 1
- many high ranked free agents do not get signed and stay in free agents list all season

I'm sort of new to the 2K Basketball series. Do they usually address these known game issues publicly and actually release a patch to correct said issues?

-not to mention the usual 30 to 40 point blow-outs by the home team in the playoffs
-too many coaches being fired/hired DURING the season
-and on a personal note; queen james winning the MVP for the first four years i simmed.

[bondish770]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

-and on a personal note; queen james winning the MVP for the first four years i simmed.

This is the biggest thing, in my opinion, that needs to be patched.

[Isura]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

This is the biggest thing, in my opinion, that needs to be patched.

Lol. Lebron WILL be the best player in the NBA for each of the next 4 years. He won't win 4 MVPs in the nba though, because voters are ********

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Not completely correct.
I gave 25 potential to Nash,Duncan and Dirk BUT Star as role player.
After three years of simmed association,they still had Star role and no one was traded.
Don't rimember if Nash retired after the 2nd or 3rd year...

So a correct player role is very important in Association!

Let me get this right ... you start an association, change the roles and save ... then quit and re load the saved file, once loaded the roles changes are not saved ?

or

From main mode you change roles and save the file ... then start an association and all player roles are back to default ?


If it is the second, it is cause by the same bug that changes the rotation ... if you havent tried one of the options, can you ?

[ffaacc03]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

This is the biggest thing, in my opinion, that needs to be patched.

It also happened in 2k10 but with a couple of edits here and there, happened no more ... it was way more realistic as others won it too (Kobe-CP3-Durant-Melo) ... the same can be done here.

But overalls do seem to play a role into awards and all star votings, sometimes, almost as much as production.

[Serra11]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

I simmed other season with the last nogster roster and a CWSapp draft class.Also gave to important player the Star role.

Player role,chemistry and trades on,1 team under my control.

Loaded a CWSapp draft class for season 2:5 trades.
Used an auto-generated draft class for season 3:5 trades.

So...what do we have to try now to increase the number of trades????

Maybe tweak potential???Or Durability to have more injuries???

[Serra11]

Re: It would be a total Buzz kill if Association mode is as broken...

Let me get this right ...
From main mode you change roles and save the file ... then

Then reload your saved file and you'll see all player roles back to default.