Miami Starting 5??

[Freak123]

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Cool.

I'll be curious to see if they run him at Point guard w/ Wade, more 2 forwards and a Center.

Defensively I dont know if that would hold up against the Brandon Jennings, Chris Pauls, and Aaron Brooks of the L.

I always thought there was always a smaller guard/PG alongside him even if he ran the Point in Cleveland.

He only truly ran point in Cleveland very, very few times, I'm talking single digits out of the entire seven years. He ran point forward there, but Coach Spo wants to utilize him to his full potential and use his versatility to the team's advantage, unlike Cleveland. Also, LeBron can keep up with anyone in the NBA, big or small, he's one of the quickest in the league and along with his strength, athleticism, and smarts he is one of the best defenders in the league no matter what position he plays and guards.

On a side not, less than an hour til tip off! Woot!

[BaselineBakes]

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Lebron ran point almost every game bro, he brought the ball up a majority of time and initiated more then half of the offense in Cleveland. EDIT sorry I reread and get what your saying about the point forward thing. IMO that's running point but I could see how in your opinion it is different.

Oh and of course Miami breaks out black socks with there road jerseys, why wouldn't they do that.

[king0608]

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Miami's starting 5..

PG - Arroyo
SG - D Wade
SF - James
PF - Bosh
C - Anthony

Lebron will run point when Eddie house is in the game.. that hybrid point/forward situation.. so starting him at PG is really unrealistic right now.. he will handle the ball A LOT but there will be a PG on the floor.. either House or Arroyo.. Wade will play a more natural PG than James.. especially when Miller gets back from injury..

[Freak123]

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Miami's starting 5..

PG - Arroyo
SG - D Wade
SF - James
PF - Bosh
C - Anthony

Lebron will run point when Eddie house is in the game.. that hybrid point/forward situation.. so starting him at PG is really unrealistic right now.. he will handle the ball A LOT but there will be a PG on the floor.. either House or Arroyo.. Wade will play a more natural PG than James.. especially when Miller gets back from injury..

Well I didn't say start there, that is unrealistic. There won't always be a point guard while LeBron is on the floor though as Coach Spo has said, LeBron and Wade will both run the actual PG at times, not just handle the ball. Not that big of a difference, but it will provide a mismatch to teams like the Bulls or Celtics as the Heat will have 2 SF's and 1 SG on the floor, and the Bulls and Celtics need Rondo and Rose on the floor for 35+ minutes a game, thus someone is going to have a mismatch, whether it be Wade, LeBron, Jones, Stackhouse, or Miller.

[BATMON]

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Point Forward and Point Guard are not the same thing.

I read that Riley envisions LeBron like Magic who was the PG.

As good as Lebron is its foolish to place him defensively against speedy pgs in the L.
Chasing guys on the perimeter minimizes his rebounding.

In the crunch i remember Pippen getting the assignment against Mark Jackson which stifled the Pacers offense. But that was the playoffs not 82 games a season.

[BATMON]

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One of Cleveland's problems was that LeBron should be the finisher and not the distributer. Sure he can handle the rock, but the Boobie Gibsons, Damon Jones, and Mo Williams arent great passing guards. Imagine if they had a real pass first PG to let James take some weight off. Let someone else breakdown the D.

Barkley would always complain that LeBron should be running down the court and getting fed. Not stopping at the top of the key waiting for 3 point shooters or looking to runningback to the hole.

[Freak123]

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One of Cleveland's problems was that LeBron should be the finisher and not the distributer. Sure he can handle the rock, but the Boobie Gibsons, Damon Jones, and Mo Williams arent great passing guards. Imagine if they had a real pass first PG to let James take some weight off. Let someone else breakdown the D.

Barkley would always complain that LeBron should be running down the court and getting fed. Not stopping at the top of the key waiting for 3 point shooters or looking to runningback to the hole.

LeBron is best when he controls the ball, period. No if's, and's, or but's about it. He can still be great off the ball though if he did have a good passing guard, I completely agree. He now has that in Dwayne Wade, that's one of the things that gets overlooked when it comes to Dwayne Wade, he is the complete package. Once he, Wade, and Bosh get their chemistry going, they will each be able to take over at will, because you just can't double off of Wade or Bosh if LeBron is driving, and you can't double off of LeBron or Bosh if Wade is driving, and so on and so forth. They will each pretty much play the same way once they get in synch with one another, one play LeBron goes iso, one play Wade goes iso, one play Bosh goes iso. You simply can't stop any of these guys one on one, so with the shooters they have, once you double someone, someone else is then open. It's going to be a great year for the Heat, and I would honestly be surprised if they don't win a championship this year. One last thing, LeBron's preferred mindset is a distributer's mindset, but it has to be a scoring mindset for teams to be successful with him, so I get where you are going with that, very good point.

[BATMON]

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Chalmers DNP

[Armor and Sword]

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Chalmers DNP

His time will come. He is still working his way back from a bad sprained ankle.

[tomzenns]

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Pat Riley told Lebron he wants him to be like Magic Johnson.
I think eventually, once the real life Heat work out the kinks, they will have Lebron be the starting PG, like Magic.

I am going to probably try starting him at PG in one of my next games to see how things go.

[BATMON]

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Pat Riley told Lebron he wants him to be like Magic Johnson.
I think eventually, once the real life Heat work out the kinks, they will have Lebron be the starting PG, like Magic.

Riley is looking to invest in a BJ Armstrong/John Paxon type at the "PG" position.

Chalmers is rumored to get traded.

[Armor and Sword]

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Alright so here is how I have been running thus far and after watching the first 3 games of the season.

Starting lineup:

Chalmers
Wade
Lebron
Bosh
Anthony

With 3 minutes left in the first my first 2 off the bench are Miller, and Haslem. Miller goes to SF Haslem to center and Lebron moves to point. Sometimes though if the PG on the other team is too quick I move Wade to the point Miller to SG and keep Lebron at SF. Matchups are dictating everything. If it's Dwight Howard at Center, Haslem will not play C, he will go to PF and Big Z will be the first center off the bench.

But playing Lebron at the point sometimes had had awesome results. And he clearly the league MVP 20 game into my Association thus far. He is averaging 31 points, 6 dimes, 6 boards...just a dominant force.

My Heat are now 13-8 after feeling the team out.

James Jones is getting around 4-5 minutes as well off the bench. Stackhouse will come in for around 6-7 minutes and Eddie House is also getting some PT.

Miller is deadly. He drains threes and mid range jumpers like no bodies business and defends pretty well too. He needs to stay healthy.

[BATMON]

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Alright so here is how I have been running thus far and after watching the first 3 games of the season.

Starting lineup:

Chalmers
Wade
Lebron
Bosh
Anthony

With 3 minutes left in the first my first 2 off the bench are Miller, and Haslem. Miller goes to SF Haslem to center and Lebron moves to point. Sometimes though if the PG on the other team is too quick I move Wade to the point Miller to SG and keep Lebron at SF. Matchups are dictating everything. If it's Dwight Howard at Center, Haslem will not play C, he will go to PF and Big Z will be the first center off the bench.

But playing Lebron at the point sometimes had had awesome results. And he clearly the league MVP 20 game into my Association thus far. He is averaging 31 points, 6 dimes, 6 boards...just a dominant force.

My Heat are now 13-8 after feeling the team out.

James Jones is getting around 4-5 minutes as well off the bench. Stackhouse will come in for around 6-7 minutes and Eddie House is also getting some PT.

Miller is deadly. He drains threes and mid range jumpers like no bodies business and defends pretty well too. He needs to stay healthy.

So i guess yout not factoring in the actual NBA when making your line-up?

Miller and Chalmers have been absent.

[Armor and Sword]

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So i guess yout not factoring in the actual NBA when making your line-up?

Miller and Chalmers have been absent.

Nope. My universe in video game land.

And it is a matter of time before Chalmers gets into the rotation. The biggest thing is Lebron running point, some games he just takes over from that spot as he is such a great passer.

[BATMON]

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Maybe I sound conservative, but cant LeBron do all those thing plus more from the SF spot, handling the ball vs switching him to PG and losing his rebounding advantages?

I read a good article stating that the Miami offense would actually be more efficient w/ Wade handling the ball because he's better off-ball than Lebron. LeBron can still do his thing off-ball. The offense tends to get stagnant when LeBron stands at the top of the key and the rest of the team just clears out waiting for him to be a hero. That was an issue in Cleveland. No ball movement.

Chalmers will get time only for Miami to shhowcase him to other teams for a trade.