NBA 2K11 Scripted ?

[Guffers]

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Its worth a try but personally I feel that Pro just feels more realistic. The game just seems to flow at a more natural pace and star players really do stand out.

I just had a great game against the Knicks in my Bulls franchise where I went down 108-103. It was bucket loads of fun. Anthony went bananas in the 3rd, turning my 10 point lead into a 5 point deficit at the break. At no point did I feel frustrated or cheated. On allstar this isn't the case. It may simply be 'all in my head' but Pro is the most realistic 'sim' expression of the game for me.

I'm using Armour & Swords Pro sliders, they are GREAT!

[qpc123]

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Clearly this game is scripted, its not like there are huge momentum swings in the real NBA. Haven't you been watching the playoffs, it's not like the Bulls/Pacers or Blazers/Mavs games this weekend had any huge swings. Oh wait.....

[rockchisler]

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my favorite is when im like 1-12 from 3 but maybe down by 7 or 8 then magically towards the end i can hit 3's bang bang bang like nobodies business...happens too often

[coolcras7]

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my favorite is when im like 1-12 from 3 but maybe down by 7 or 8 then magically towards the end i can hit 3's bang bang bang like nobodies business...happens too often

That is clutch factor, you may also be getting that player hot with layups and mid range shots before hand, but the game is not scripted they just included runs in the game, as you have seen it happens all to often in the NBA and the playoffs especially one team cools off and another hits everything.

[Sovartus]

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The developers tune the game to All-Star so anything higher than that is unrealistic unless you go in and tweek the sliders to make the game play the way "you" think the game ought to play. If you aren't paying attention to who is shooting, where they are shooting from (look at their hot spots, not the pulsing areas on the court, but the situational hotspots), and who is in the area of where you are shooting, you will miss a lot of open shots.

Another interesting thing to look at is shot selection. Do you know what constitutes good shot selection? If there is a taller defender in your "crowding area" you will more than likely miss if your player doesn't have a decent shoot in traffic rating. Also, look to see if you have someone in position to rebound. Lastly, you want to make sure that you have enough seperation for the shot. All of these things determine shot selection.

When you add all of this together along with monitoring hot streaks by pressing up on the d-pad on offense, your shot percentages will go up and you will understand how to defend the cpu better.

By the way, knowing the defender's vertical rating will help when trying to determine if you have created enough seperation. Player's with higher verticals can close out space better than others. This is the same thing as being a taller defender.

[Zastrin]

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The developers tune the game to All-Star so anything higher than that is unrealistic unless you go in and tweek the sliders to make the game play the way "you" think the game ought to play. If you aren't paying attention to who is shooting, where they are shooting from (look at their hot spots, not the pulsing areas on the court, but the situational hotspots), and who is in the area of where you are shooting, you will miss a lot of open shots.

Another interesting thing to look at is shot selection. Do you know what constitutes good shot selection? If there is a taller defender in your "crowding area" you will more than likely miss if your player doesn't have a decent shoot in traffic rating. Also, look to see if you have someone in position to rebound. Lastly, you want to make sure that you have enough seperation for the shot. All of these things determine shot selection.

When you add all of this together along with monitoring hot streaks by pressing up on the d-pad on offense, your shot percentages will go up and you will understand how to defend the cpu better.

By the way, knowing the defender's vertical rating will help when trying to determine if you have created enough seperation. Player's with higher verticals can close out space better than others. This is the same thing as being a taller defender.

Thanks so much bro, I have no idea how to play good defense - especially in the post... someone like Nowitzki will just pivot around and hit a basket. Sometimes I am too aggressive with my jumping and going all over the place.

so what exactly does that Heat Check mean? i know how to access it, but have no idea what it is supposed to mean

[Sovartus]

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Thanks so much bro, I have no idea how to play good defense - especially in the post... someone like Nowitzki will just pivot around and hit a basket. Sometimes I am too aggressive with my jumping and going all over the place.

so what exactly does that Heat Check mean? i know how to access it, but have no idea what it is supposed to mean

You will want to monitor this almost every play coming up the court really. You will see the little basketball next to the player's name change to a yellow ball with steam coming off of it when they start heating up. You really want to get them a good shot when this happens so they can score again and continue to get hot. It's not enough to just get them the ball and think that because they are getting "hot" they will make it. They just have a high chance of making open jumpers. Once the get hot, the little basketball will show flames coming off of it to let you know he is on fire. This is when you want to feed him the ball until he cools off or the defense forces the ball out of his hands. Remember, it is important to continue working to get the player "good looks" not just shooting anything thinking it will all go in. This doesn't work like NBA Jam. Likewise, if the little basketball turns blue, you want to get him out of the game because he is hurting your chemistry and could be killing your team's momentum.

[Ltrain44]

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I think it's scripted to a certain point. I play with almost the default all star sliders but I took everything down on the offense by 2-8 points and somehow I can never ever ever get a bucket with contact but the AI does it all the time and both the human and AI settings are the same.. That part is scripted

[Zastrin]

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You will want to monitor this almost every play coming up the court really. You will see the little basketball next to the player's name change to a yellow ball with steam coming off of it when they start heating up. You really want to get them a good shot when this happens so they can score again and continue to get hot. It's not enough to just get them the ball and think that because they are getting "hot" they will make it. They just have a high chance of making open jumpers. Once the get hot, the little basketball will show flames coming off of it to let you know he is on fire. This is when you want to feed him the ball until he cools off or the defense forces the ball out of his hands. Remember, it is important to continue working to get the player "good looks" not just shooting anything thinking it will all go in. This doesn't work like NBA Jam. Likewise, if the little basketball turns blue, you want to get him out of the game because he is hurting your chemistry and could be killing your team's momentum.

I did just that- Travis Outlaw is my best player to use, and I kept monitoring the Heat Check like you said, and I got 31 points with him and won the game against the Warriors 105-97! That is the biggest victory point margin I have had against the CPU on All Star/Sim.

Now what do you propose for defense? My offense is terrific, but boy my defense is horrible. Mainly the post defense, my perimeter defense I'd say is B+ at best.... but if youre in the post with me, I will get spanked. I am guessing the Post Defense attributes control your success of preventing a basket in those situations? Let me know, I am always looking to up my game

[Sovartus]

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I think it's scripted to a certain point. I play with almost the default all star sliders but I took everything down on the offense by 2-8 points and somehow I can never ever ever get a bucket with contact but the AI does it all the time and both the human and AI settings are the same.. That part is scripted

No, actually it's not. If you want to draw more fouls, you will need to take a look at both the player that is attacking's draw foul tendency as well as the player you are attacking's foul tendency. That has more to do with it than anything. You can find this information in the tendencies section. Also, make sure that you are going for regular layups because you seem to get more fouls that way. I average about 20-25 free throw attempts per game.

[Ltrain44]

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No, actually it's not. If you want to draw more fouls, you will need to take a look at both the player that is attacking's draw foul tendency as well as the player you are attacking's foul tendency. That has more to do with it than anything. You can find this information in the tendencies section. Also, make sure that you are going for regular layups because you seem to get more fouls that way. I average about 20-25 free throw attempts per game.

Thanks man. What I was trying to get at also was in Real Life they make a lot more contact layups then they do in this game. Even with default sliders on all star. I know this isn't real life but Im gonna look at the tendencies. so thanks again!

[TUSS11]

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I think this is not what is meant by scripted games. Scripted means that the games somehow pre-determines the outcome - or at least the course - of a game and gives ratings bonuses and penalties accordingly to one or both teams. Or theoretically could ignore some ratings in key situations altogether, although I don't believe that NBA 2k is doing that.

What you mean with the pure existence of ratings is just a necessary abstraction because real time phyiscs simulation down to the detail of precise collision detection of [hand/arm/whatever limp]<->ball and such is just very hard to do right and to make computable in real time.
Because of that ratings don't simulate every tiny detail of reality but rather try to emulate them via statistical means. But that is not 'scripting' the outcome or flow of a game.

I understand what you're saying. I just feel that contact between a hand and the ball should result in a deflection regardless of ratings.

[rockchisler]

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Stopped right there.

There is nothing "realistic" about HOF and why these threads are useless.

No matter how many people tell you that, even the developers, they will swear that harder equals "more realistic."

Do you play any other game where harder equals realism, subjective to the game being played?

Harder is "harder" for a reason yet that begets common sense here for a reason I will never understand.

yes this is true...

[Sovartus]

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Thanks man. What I was trying to get at also was in Real Life they make a lot more contact layups then they do in this game. Even with default sliders on all star. I know this isn't real life but Im gonna look at the tendencies. so thanks again!

I would have to look but I think there is a slider for that. Otherwise, I'm positive that you will want to look at the player's shoot in traffic rating. That may help determine if players make those shots more often than not.

[RumbleStud]

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It is scripted. theres no reason coach changes up the playbook and no longer calls plays for me for 3,4,5, games ina row that result in losses when we used to go on win streaks of 7,8,9, when he was.