With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

[DaReapa]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

There are flaws and then there are fundamental flaws that detract from the playability of a game.
- When I pass to my Center who's cutting from the block to the foul line the pass shouldn't lead him all the way to the 3pt line where he's completely useless.
- When I contest a shot perfectly, the ball shouldn't go through my hand just because the game decided the shot must go in.
- When a two-player animation starts, the eight other players on the court should slide and morph out of the way so the animation can be completed.
- When I get bumped by my defender I shouldn't have to stubble back five feet and take five dribbles before my player regains his balance.
- When I perform the behind-the-back action on the controller there shouldn't be a 2 second delay before my player actually dribbles behind his back.

These are just a handful of the countless fundamental issues that I encounter multiple times every game (some of them occur every possession). I'm not complaining about arms morphing through torsos or anything of that nature because that doesn't detract from the quality of gameplay. The things I mentioned do.

M'man, you are spot on, and I couldn't agree more. I personally can't take another year of the many issues you've addressed and the sluggish controls.

[TUSS11]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

lol, you can't be serious, of course those additions were worth it they are what makes 2k11 the best of the series and Sports game of the year.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I really don't have time to go back and clarify my points.

M'man, you are spot on, and I couldn't agree more. I personally can't take another year of the many issues you've addressed and the sluggish controls.

The fact that these issues reoccur year after year kills me too. I mean, can't they just take the time to get it right for once?

[coolcras7]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I really don't have time to go back and clarify my points.



The fact that these issues reoccur year after year kills me too. I mean, can't they just take the time to get it right for once?

Why don't you teach them how to do it right since you are a computer programer/game designer, because I am sure they leave flaws in the game just for fun or ignorance. Basketball will always be one if not the hardest game to replicate, because how do you program heart and determination and true player abilities and tendencies is that even possible, how do you create a simulated D Rose or Kobe, how do you make something that has no real physical presence act and respond like it does, everything is not cut and dry and every year they will continue to figure out how to overcome previous short comings but expecting to see perfection and a true to life replication is no where near possible at this time.

[d11king]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

I find it funny that even when EA does not create a basketball game they still get the benefit of the doubt that they will produce something amazing when they eventually do, but 2k creates the best basketball game ever and it is considered overrated, really overrated, no game will be flawless so having flaws does not make it overrated. 2k does not have a history of being lazy so I don't expect them to all of a sudden acquire that habit, I see 2k using this time to push the limits of their game so that when EA does release a game the people loyal to that franchise will have permanently converted to 2k fans.

Woooooooow. This is all that needs to be said, period. Best response I've seen so far on this thread. If this was Facebook, I'd like this, remove my like, and like it again and repeat the process until myspace gets popular. Apply no homo wherever applicable.

As most people know, the only reason there is to not liking 2K, is

A. You suck
B. You'd rather be dunking from the free-throw line with Andrew Bynum and love watching the nets go up before the ball gets there.

This isn't NBA Jam and it's not NBA Live 2005. It makes me wonder, if people think a sim basketball video game, is good graphics and realistic faces. 2K is going to absolutely destroy EA, you really think 2K even considers them competition, seriously. 2K gradually improves their games year by year, and will continue to do so. Keep in mind, Madden is falling off, and 2K can't make a football game, I'm sure they've been really upset about that since 2005.

Yes there are things that need to be improved, but I swear you'd think people would realize it's a video game. People are asking for Jack Nicholson on the sideline, or post game interviews with players talking off a script.

Passing is good in this game, not perfect but good. Dribbling is perfect, too many people complaining about isomotion moves cause they can't do em. I seriously think people need to jump in practice mode and stay there for 5 hours, instead of jumping straight into games.

Most of you aren't good anyway, and just need practice. If you'd notice, none of the great 2K users, such as myself, complain about anything.

[tabulaRasa]

It´s funny how 2K always have to overperform to get credit for their efforts while EA can put out a pressrelease and fanbays are shouting "EAs game is going to rule"... Track records show otherwise....
If anything, 2K is the only videogame basketball creator that deserves a confidence stamp.

[tabulaRasa]

If you want to crush the competetion 2K, throw college basketball into the NBA2K game. Licensefees could be too much though.

[bosay831]

Don't forget a certain publisher will also be sure to leave certain features out of the the game such as online access and certain other game features that should have shipped with the game out of the box so that they can charge you for those same features later. Of course the fanboys will continue to thank this publisher while they continue to nickel and dime us each chance they get. Is it not bad enough because of them we have advertisements in the game now?

[stlstudios189]

wow 2 years hiatus away from bb If I was EA I would just release a new NCAA basketball game and not worry about competing against 2k13

[Beantownbomber718]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

I tell you...2k11 was a step up from 2k10 in gameplay & nearly every game mode was worked on to make it more interesting. Fact remains,I been a loyalist when it has come to 2ksports,years ago i always prefered the NFL Games over Madden because of 2k's work ethic & dedication to improve for the fans. 2k NBA & NBA Live I was always torn between years ago though,but since 2008,2K NBA has set the bar & NBA Live could'nt reach it whatsoever. With that said,I feel 2k should'nt get too comfortable because 2k NBA the last few years have been a little repetitive with gameplay,player & crowd animations,not to mention the Game freezes more than an average game,there are many glitches & exploits & the servers online are miserable. I also feel myplayer has seen very little improvement from last year to this years game. When you factor all those problems together it is a major issue to a videogame that's proclaimed the greatest basketball game ever. Now not knocking 2k but if EA actually gives fans what they want next year & 2k makes tiny improvements like they do ever year,then i would give NBA Elite(Live) a try,because in the end i care about what NBA game is quality,& once i got used to 2k11 even on a higher difficulty with sliders that make it hard to score i still manage to score 110+ points. 2K11 is a solid game but i ooze with basketball knowledge & love a realistic Run plays style of basketball Game,& i play 2k11 online & i face kids that pick the Heat & drive everytime with LeBron & Wade do the euro step & score nearly everytime until I use 1-3-1 Zone. I want a Game where the more you know about basketball the better you are cause almost everybody i've played online has either used exploits in the game or have used a "Run & Gun I know nothing about basketball" Strategy.

[1WEiRDguy]

How confident am I in 2k?? VERY!!! For my sim experience, i will play 2k, for my arcade experience i want to play NBA street (please bring this back)

I wish my man Czar was still doing those videos...that has to be one of the most unbiased reviewers I have ever seen. He clearly illustrated the things both games got right and the things they got wrong, however, it seemed to be that at least going back to 2009, 2k was declared the victor when he tallied up all the categories score that he judges the game by. In some categories, the score wasnt even close.. If you havent seen his videos, i suggest you go to youtube...the evidence is all there for you to see

[Max Juggernaut]

The competition is needed with these games....Madden has been simply awful with no competition and the only people that suffer is the consumer.

[greenegt]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

Video basketball is in great hands with 2K. I'm looking forward to EA's return though, because competition is a good thing.

[VUUAASSHHH!]

EA Sports has put the last nail in the coffin. I don`t believe EA is going waste more time and resources on making a decent NBA sim game. On the other hand, they could bring back arcade games like NBA Streets, Homecourts... and keep releasing NBA JAMs every year... just to say "ok, we are still in the game" lol
About 2KSports, I don`t believe they are going to be lazy and release low quality sim games from this year on just because EASports failed. They know they have a legacy on NBA games and to keep that up, they need to improve every single year.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: No Competition For NBA 2K12, EA Sports Delays Their Sim Basketball Game Until 201

WOW!! That clearly is a hit or miss move that will seal the fate of EA in the basketball realm for this generation. I wonder if there will be any layoffs from this. Would be the perfect time for 2K to release a college game so they can garner a following similar to the NCAA titles.

Dude. They are HIRING folks for the EA team. Not laying off. Why would you think they would be laying people off? They have a game to make. If they had a staff surplus, I think they would have tried to get a game out this year. If there is an NBA lockout, this would be the year they COULD skip, right?

[statum71]

Re: With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12?

I'm confident 2K12 will be just fine. The competition is on-hold not gone.

Besides.....I think 2K prides themselves in basketball.