NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Updated

**da ThRONe** · 08-09-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

1st response:

Ahh OS. You never fail to disappoint.

I stand behind my comments. If the 1,000 animation aren't used to drastically reduce or remove suction I will be greatly disappointed.

The two reason I don't play 2K now is because MP is only designed to be fun temporaryly and suction.

**mlp111** · 08-09-2011, 09:56 PM

Sounds great, hope they redo alleys oops, hope they will finally address the crowd( copy live 10 mike Wang or something), all other news sounds great too me, can't wait!!!!!

**mlp111** · 08-09-2011, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by da ThRONe

I stand behind my comments. If the 1,000 animation aren't used to drastically reduce or remove suction I will be greatly disappointed.

The two reason I don't play 2K now is because MP is only designed to be fun temporaryly and suction.

There is no way possible that u play EA last game released, cause it's just as bad!!!

**stillfeelme** · 08-09-2011, 10:33 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Upd

1000 new animations, ok I will take it. Basketball has so much individuality and different outcomes that can happen on any given play that it seems you have to add more animations or change the engine if you want to expand on what can happen in a real game.

**afridgetofar** · 08-10-2011, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by womalee23

Understood. But you got to give credit when it's due. There using a more physics-based engine this year. Therefore adding to an already solid animation system.

it largely remains to be seen what physics additions they are talking about. But if they are talking about adding 1000 animations they aren't configuring their animation engine with procedural animation capabilities at all. Their variety of animations is solid, but the engine is this pipeline of solid doodoo that's stalling the forward progress of the franchise.

**Pared** · 08-10-2011, 03:30 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Upd

Originally posted by da ThRONe

I stand behind my comments. If the 1,000 animation aren't used to drastically reduce or remove suction I will be greatly disappointed.

The two reason I don't play 2K now is because MP is only designed to be fun temporaryly and suction.

They don't have anything to do with one another.

Originally posted by mlp111

Sounds great, hope they redo alleys oops, hope they will finally address the crowd( copy live 10 mike Wang or something), all other news sounds great too me, can't wait!!!!!

The alley oops have been the best of any basketball game. I don't see why they would need to "redo" them at all.

**illwill10** · 08-10-2011, 03:43 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Upd

Originally posted by Pared

The alley oops have been the best of any basketball game. I don't see why they would need to "redo" them at all.

Alley Oops were good for me. It seemed right for me. I cant pull it off against athletic big men, but can pull it off against bad-avg big men.
If anything they can tweak it, but redo isnt neccessary

**VDusen04** · 08-10-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by illwill10

Alley Oops were good for me. It seemed right for me. I cant pull it off against athletic big men, but can pull it off against bad-avg big men.
If anything they can tweak it, but redo isnt neccessary

Alley oops were definitely good, but I could think of some improvements. They're definitely probably some of the best we've seen in a simulation video game but that may be only because the alley-oop has seemed to be a tough-to-perfect craft in gaming (either too frequent or too sparse, too spectacular or too routine). I personally wouldn't mind a chunk of more animations. I feel like I can think of all the types of alley-oop finishes in my head available in 2K. Also, I think signature alley-oop finishes would be an achievable step at some point.

So, while I think I'm cool with the way alley-oops are executed in 2K (except for the absence of alleys during offensive sets), I do think 2K could beef up on the animations even more than they already have. It kind of reminds me of the retro jersey thing. 2K has stepped their retro selection up a lot in recent years, but I think it could still go further. It feels greedy, but I don't mean it in such a way. My intent is to be constructive.

**KyotoCarl** · 08-10-2011, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by afridgetofar

it largely remains to be seen what physics additions they are talking about. But if they are talking about adding 1000 animations they aren't configuring their animation engine with procedural animation capabilities at all. Their variety of animations is solid, but the engine is this pipeline of solid doodoo that's stalling the forward progress of the franchise.

I'm guessing they won't redo their engine until the next generation system come.

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**Da_Czar** · 08-10-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by afridgetofar

But if they are talking about adding 1000 animations they aren't configuring their animation engine with procedural animation capabilities at all. Their variety of animations is solid, but the engine is this pipeline of solid doodoo that's stalling the forward progress of the franchise.

That is an assumption your making based on,I believe, how you think 2k's animation engine relates to their physics engine. There animation system is far from the monolith that many make it out to be.

Last year they showed you a glimpse of what they can do with their branching animation system. Because it didn't cover every single area of the game many overlooked the obvious improvement that was made and genius of being able to branch from one animation form into another(especially when you have more animations than anyone else in the industry of hoop games ). You can have a computer handle that for you but we saw last year how unbasketball like that can make your game look.

So don't count them out yet. If last year is any indication they are taking sections of the game and re-writing them and making them more extensible. Which keeps the great basketball feel while also moving towards a more physics based game.

**cavsfan2** · 08-10-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by illwill10

Alley Oops were good for me. It seemed right for me. I cant pull it off against athletic big men, but can pull it off against bad-avg big men.
If anything they can tweak it, but redo isnt neccessary

The problem with alley oops for me is that i couldnt pull them off with someone standing stationary under the hoop. Not even with Dwight, Javale, and Chandler.

**yungsta404** · 08-10-2011, 06:26 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Upd

Originally posted by cavsfan2

The problem with alley oops for me is that i couldnt pull them off with someone standing stationary under the hoop. Not even with Dwight, Javale, and Chandler.

yea when i ever try to do that i throw it off the backboard lol. You should be able to lob it for a dunk when they are open next to the rim.

i really wish we have a option for the type of pass we can do

23 · 08-10-2011, 06:28 PM

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Im still a fan of the click the stick to throw the self alley oop control

That really worked because if you didnt time the jump right and you weren't lined up, even if you were alone, you wouldn't get the dunk, period... would even miss the ball

I think 2k could pull this off easy

**Da_Czar** · 08-10-2011, 07:56 PM

Re: NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Upd

Originally posted by cavsfan2

The problem with alley oops for me is that i couldnt pull them off with someone standing stationary under the hoop. Not even with Dwight, Javale, and Chandler.

That might be cheese control family. Can you imagine what a cheeser would do with that ? I hear you though. In the proper context it would be nice.

**nba2k23** · 08-10-2011, 09:50 PM

I believe this is the best possible list that 2k could use for the "Greatest" Mode. I wanted to add the 1999 Spurs (twin towers) and the 1995 Magic (Shaq & Penny) just not enough room.

1. 1965 Celtics--Bill Russell, J.Havlicek (9 titles in 60's)
2. 1971 Bucks--Lew Alcindor, O.Robertson (2 titles in 70's)
3. 1972 Lakers--Wilt Chamberlain, J.West (69 regular season wins)
4. 1973 Knicks--Walt Frazier, W.Reed (2 titles in 70's)
5. 1983 76ers--Julius Erving, M.Malone (1 title in 80's)
6. 1986 Celtics--Larry Bird, McHale, Parrish (3 titles in 80's)
7. 1987 Lakers--Magic Johnson, Kareem, Worthy (4 titles in 80's)
8. 1989 Pistons--Isaiah Thomas, J.Dumars (2 consecutive titles)
9. 1990 Blazers--Clyde Drexler (2 Finals appearances in 90's)
10. 1992 Bulls--Michael Jordan, S.Pippen (6 titles in 90's)
11. 1993 Suns--Charles Barkley (one of the great 90's teams)
12. 1994 Knicks--Patrick Ewing (added to play Miller's Pacers)
13. 1994 Pacers--Reggie Miller (added to play Ewing's Knicks)
14. 1995 Rockets--Hakeem Olajuwan (2 consecutive titles)
15. 1998 Jazz--Karl Malone, J. Stockton (2 Finals appearances in 90's)

NBA 2K12 Adds Over 1,000 Animations, Every Graphical Detail To Be Dynamically Updated

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