NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

[jr2424]

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

cheesing isn't dead, and imo it never will be. Any online game will have players who will find ways to exploit the game and "cheese" their way to victory. However the new play calling system makes calling plays and playing a more sim style of basketball easier than ever. I try to play a more sim style but in past years it was hard because the playbooks were limited and if you didn't call plays the offense became very stagnant and almost motionless. The quick play defensive strategy alone should force the offense to think more about what they are doing and react to what the defense is calling. 2k12 seems like it will make the user vs user games a lot more fun and add more strategy to basketball games than ever.

This! The developers try to eliminate it as much as they can, but cheesers will cheese. They will find a way. But as long as we continue to voice how they cheese, I feel the developers will continue to refine the game and make it more difficult. I think the hop step and spin move cheese will decrease because it's no longer mapped to a button. Hopefully that means no more spamming that move/

[Mos1ted]

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

I think cheesers cheese because quite frankly, they don't understand the fundamentals of the sport. Continuously trying to penetrate with Lebron James even though the path to the lane isn't open is simply evidence that the user doesn't know of any other way to score. Given the fact that the user had success using that strategy to begin with was either the result of poor gameplay mechanics or his opponent not discovering a way to stop him. In my opinion, there wasn't a single move a cheeser could use in NBA 2K11 that couldn't be countered with good defense. Once I figured out the cheeser's tendencies, it was pretty easy to predict what he was going to do on offense and adjust my defense accordingly.

The only advantage cheesers have online is that rank games are relatively short. In a full 48 minute game, I doubt cheesers would win any game because they wouldn't have the patience to stick it out against skilled users.

[UnDefeatedEZ]

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About the spin n hop step move mapped to the right stick... It might b an alternate control setting like alternate a or b to have the hop step etc on da button.. Regardless tho i mean advanced users like myself can easily get used to doin da hop step etc on da right stick so it dont make a difference to me..


Also idk wat cheesers yall play.. But da cheesers i play against all of da time knows basketball n r very skilled.. Im not talkin about da rank cheeser
Bums.. So da advanced cheesers kno all da glitches/ cheese money plays.. I dont get y u guys act like they not good at wat they do lol...

[thetrueBROSKY]

how does the out of bounds play calling work for two player games?

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Stop calling this useless if you cant save online

all of us don't live and die with online play

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[JCEVO]

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Stop calling this useless if you cant save online

all of us don't live and die with online play

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totally agree. online in sports game are useless IMO. there are more negatives than positives

[infam0us]

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totally agree. online in sports game are useless IMO. there are more negatives than positives

I wouldn't say useless but I don't really like quick games and stuff. Playing team up with people you know and will play unselfishly is fun as hell.

[mreyes930]

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how does the out of bounds play calling work for two player games?

I'd imagine it works exactly the same as single player. During the timeout (as shown is the screenshot) all you are selecting is 1)Inbounder 2)Shooter and 3) Type of play. If you call the play after the time out, it should run just as you set it.

[shayellis]

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

If you cant save the plays for online play, then i dont really care

[Sam Marlowe]

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I'd imagine it works exactly the same as single player. During the timeout (as shown is the screenshot) all you are selecting is 1)Inbounder 2)Shooter and 3) Type of play. If you call the play after the time out, it should run just as you set it.

He may be referring to that screenshot that shows how you're setting the play up. Not the best option to have when someone's sitting right next to you.

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I wouldn't say useless but I don't really like quick games and stuff. Playing team up with people you know and will play unselfishly is fun as hell.

Maybe but its not the all be all either

Why can't people enjoy this insight because its absolutely a great write up and exciting to read about this

What these guys are going is what you really call whining

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[Sam Marlowe]

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

I'm loving how you can control how your defenders deal with screens directly now.

[Mos1ted]

Re: NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

About the spin n hop step move mapped to the right stick... It might b an alternate control setting like alternate a or b to have the hop step etc on da button.. Regardless tho i mean advanced users like myself can easily get used to doin da hop step etc on da right stick so it dont make a difference to me..


Also idk wat cheesers yall play.. But da cheesers i play against all of da time knows basketball n r very skilled.. Im not talkin about da rank cheeser
Bums.. So da advanced cheesers kno all da glitches/ cheese money plays.. I dont get y u guys act like they not good at wat they do lol...

Let me ask you this then: What do you consider cheese?

[guesswhozbak17]

About the spin n hop step move mapped to the right stick... It might b an alternate control setting like alternate a or b to have the hop step etc on da button.. Regardless tho i mean advanced users like myself can easily get used to doin da hop step etc on da right stick so it dont make a difference to me..


Also idk wat cheesers yall play.. But da cheesers i play against all of da time knows basketball n r very skilled.. Im not talkin about da rank cheeser
Bums.. So da advanced cheesers kno all da glitches/ cheese money plays.. I dont get y u guys act like they not good at wat they do lol...

What you're saying is understood
A cheeser or cheese tactics are strategies that are one dimensional and repetitive. If you made a comparison to the actual NBA, a cheeser could fall under a strictly spot shooter (ex. Kyle Korver). Kyle Korver is good at what he does and is STRICTLY a skill type player. No one is saying someone who does the spin dunk only is not skilled. I've played against cheesers that I had to compliment how great of a cheese it was after the game.

The point is that when you take away a cheesers sole dependent cheese tactic, they are not as good as believed. If you take away Kyle Korvers shooting, how good is he really?

The reason the Kobe's, the Lebron's and the Wade's are successful is because once you take away one of their strengths, they make you pay by another means.

In 2k, and maybe all sports games, there are some things you just can't take away from a gamer fairly...look at Fight Nights last patch lol.

[BRxSKINSx]

Man...this is gonna be awesome....2k, y'all got me so hyped for this year's game...I'm always hyped....but this year, its gone to a whole new level....