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  • Pims33
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 163

    #76
    Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

    Originally posted by CelticPride101
    I'm talking about teams here and you can also have Magic, Kareem or Bird in those discussions, I'm not even getting into all that... and you got Jordan, a player, in best teams discussion?

    as for the rest of your post I just laugh and I not gonna bother to answer because it didn't make no sense to me...
    "the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals"
    I'm not even going to enter this discussion again because I've already said the Bulls in the 80's wouldn't amount to the same thing and the '87 Lakers and '86 Celtics could've beat them, but I gotta say this post made me laugh. I also got to agree that the 80's had far better teams, that's as far as my argument goes right now though, I debated this in the '86 Celtics thread the other day.

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    • Pims33
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 163

      #77
      Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

      Originally posted by magicman32
      There were more bad teams in the 80's than in the 90's. The east was tougher in the 80's too by a wide margin. I love the showtime lakers and I don't think the 96 bulls can beat that team. But the celtics and the lakers owned the 80's and there were plenty of horrible teams in the 80's. There may not have been as many All-Time Great teams in the 90's, however the 90's, especially the early 90's was more balanced and was far from watered down.

      2001 to 2008 was watered down also IMO. The league is now at a place were there are more strong teams and players.
      Not at all, the 90's had far worser teams and the East in the 80's was where the NBA had the greater amount of competition, what you said is just wrong.

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      • Pims33
        Rookie
        • Sep 2010
        • 163

        #78
        Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

        Originally posted by magicman32
        There were more bad teams in the 80's than in the 90's. The east was tougher in the 80's too by a wide margin. I love the showtime lakers and I don't think the 96 bulls can beat that team. But the celtics and the lakers owned the 80's and there were plenty of horrible teams in the 80's. There may not have been as many All-Time Great teams in the 90's, however the 90's, especially the early 90's was more balanced and was far from watered down.

        2001 to 2008 was watered down also IMO. The league is now at a place were there are more strong teams and players.
        Wait a minute, I though you said the 80's had worser teams than the 90's and the East was much tougher in the 90's, if that wasn't it, I'm sorry.

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        • coolcras7
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 2337

          #79
          Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

          Originally posted by CelticPride101
          the Celtics and the Lakers won multiples, same for the Pistons, the Sixers dominated and still contended while they could... they dominated and conteded, they had a great team all-around, in a era full of great teams
          they didn't even win a title, they didn't dominate, they couldn't compare to the best 80's teams, only the Bulls can, they were really good but not all time good, add that to the bunch of bad teams the 90's had
          You had 3-4 great teams in the 80's plain and simple, the 90's was more balanced and more teams had a chance to win a championship, 3-4 dominate teams does not make a better NBA
          PSN=Coolcas7

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          • CelticPride101
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 91

            #80
            Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

            Originally posted by Pims33
            Wait a minute, I though you said the 80's had worser teams than the 90's and the East was much tougher in the 90's, if that wasn't it, I'm sorry.

            if that was it, that's straight up ignorance... saying that the 80's had worser teams is already ignorant though lmao
            some posts just make me

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            • CelticPride101
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 91

              #81
              Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

              Originally posted by coolcras7
              You had 3-4 great teams in the 80's plain and simple, the 90's was more balanced and more teams had a chance to win a championship, 3-4 dominate teams does not make a better NBA

              ther you go again talking out of ignorance... 3-4 great teams in the 80's plain and simple? lmao, fo real? you had great teams, winning lots of games and contending
              in the 90's you had the Bulls winning it all and no other team dominating, not to mention those really bad teams like the Grizzlies, the Mavs, the '98 Nuggets, the Wolves, even the Celtics...
              in the 80's you had the Lakers, the Celtics, the Sixers, the Pistons, the Bucks, the Mavs, the Hawks, the Jazz, the Bulls... great players and teams, some carried into the 90's

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              • CelticPride101
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 91

                #82
                Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                Originally posted by coolcras7
                You had 3-4 great teams in the 80's plain and simple, the 90's was more balanced and more teams had a chance to win a championship, 3-4 dominate teams does not make a better NBA
                really all you've said made me laugh, no pun intented but you got alot of ignorance going on... let me just ask you this: how old are you and when did you start watching basketball?
                or: did you even know what you're talking about and watched games and know about the 80's and 90's? because those are my favorite eras, gotta mention this

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                • coolcras7
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2337

                  #83
                  Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                  Originally posted by CelticPride101
                  ther you go again talking out of ignorance... 3-4 great teams in the 80's plain and simple? lmao, fo real? you had great teams, winning lots of games and contending
                  in the 90's you had the Bulls winning it all and no other team dominating, not to mention those really bad teams like the Grizzlies, the Mavs, the '98 Nuggets, the Wolves, even the Celtics...
                  in the 80's you had the Lakers, the Celtics, the Sixers, the Pistons, the Bucks, the Mavs, the Hawks, the Jazz, the Bulls... great players and teams, some carried into the 90's
                  Yeah I am the ignorant one, you believe because great teams fell to the Bulls they were weak, which is pathetic, they ran into the team that happened to produce the man considered by many to be the greatest to play the game that is why they fell it had nothing to do with them being weak he was just better, and he made the players around him better and sequentially his team better than others.
                  PSN=Coolcas7

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                  • coolcras7
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2337

                    #84
                    Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                    Originally posted by CelticPride101
                    really all you've said made me laugh, no pun intented but you got alot of ignorance going on... let me just ask you this: how old are you and when did you start watching basketball?
                    or: did you even know what you're talking about and watched games and know about the 80's and 90's? because those are my favorite eras, gotta mention this
                    I am 31 not a kid I watched 80's ball.
                    PSN=Coolcas7

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                    • The Bad Man
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 489

                      #85
                      Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                      Originally posted by MessenjahMatt
                      poor charles looking at mj's rings and he got none lmao

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                      • jbthegreat
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 148

                        #86
                        Gotta agree with coolcras7 just because the bulls were dominate doesn't mean that there weren't great teams in the 90's and the bulls didn't start out great they had to take their licks and earn their stripes

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                        • aloncho11
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 3708

                          #87
                          Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                          I am going to share again this very interesting and nice read about the Bulls, which I happen to agree with. Mainly because I saw many of the teams mentioned actually play back in the day.

                          http://pw1.netcom.com/~bjalas/basket...s/duhbulls.htm
                          Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                          • jbthegreat
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 148

                            #88
                            It's sad how people try to diminish the greatness of a team or player after the fact stop the bull**** comparisons and let history stand as it is

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                            • The Bad Man
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 489

                              #89
                              Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                              the 96 bulls is the greatest nba team for me. you got the rejuvenated michael jordan, the reliable partner pippen and the defensive force rodman, and the ever inspired bulls teammates. yall can say these 70s or 80s or 90s other teams can beat da bulls but how? make them play a 7 game nba finals series? against them 87 and 72 lakers, 86 celtics, and 67 sixers? ha!

                              bulls win some and lose some. pippen and rodman can be stopped and be rendered useless. but when da game is on the line especially in crucial moments yall cant contain michael jordan specially that unstoppabull michael jordan of 1996. you just cant.

                              jordan will just never lose in the nba finals against any other team you consider great.

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                              • CelticPride101
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 91

                                #90
                                Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                                Originally posted by coolcras7
                                Yeah I am the ignorant one, you believe because great teams fell to the Bulls they were weak, which is pathetic, they ran into the team that happened to produce the man considered by many to be the greatest to play the game that is why they fell it had nothing to do with them being weak he was just better, and he made the players around him better and sequentially his team better than others.

                                when did I say that? you're twisting my words... I said that the 96 Bulls are one of the best teams ever but the 86 Cs or the 87 Lakers could've beat them, and I said they got that record because the 90's had many really bad teams, I've never tried to discredit the really good 90's teams and the good competition they've faced, only said the 80's had better teams all around

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