NBA 2K Is the Champ

[wallofhate]

@ Czar Nastalga takes longer to get old. One of the reason older gamers (im 29) like the "throwback" players so much is because it takes us to a place in time where we were kids and had less worries. Its the whole "i remember were I was when Jordan did...or Magic did" ...so on and so forth. Like you said when the Kobe's and the Garnets of the world retire..they'll understand

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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Thats just how I remember it though I'm not surprised how things ended up. Visual Concept's engine wasn't dated. The content that went in to the engine was dated.

[23]

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Legends are a gift that keeps on giving Dre. Give those guys about 5-7 years and they will be in the same boat we are. Their favorite players will be out the league and THEN they will understand the value of having great past teams and players in the game.

True man but taking it even further and including fun to great teams as well

...and to be honest, some of these guys are close to contemporary, Guys like C-Webb and the Kings played against guys still in the league

Matter of fact they're already crying out loud to have Allen Iverson in the game at the same time they're dismissing older players


This inclusion is just what it is... the best basketball game series ever made.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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I must be the only one that thought ESPN basketball was the best basketball game I ever played. I played live all the time until that game, and I've been playing 2k ever since I don't know but i think 2k should just lock the NBA license up.

That was the first year I thought NBA Live was better. NBA 2k-2k3 were way ahead of NBA Live 2000-2003.

[scatman]

Honestly I would hate to see 2K get an exclusive deal. Not that they don't deserve it because they do. However, they've done so well that they proved they don't need to be exclusive to dominate their market.

Only thing I'd love for 2k to have is an official tv license (turner sports or NBA tv). I like that 2K has a "tv style" presentation, but it makes sense (at least to me) that since they can't have the espn license EA barely uses properly if at all; to secure the NBA tv or turner sports license complete with all of there presentation offerings.

2K is already the G.O.A.T., imagine the same presentation offerings we had in 2K5 with ESPN done up with current NBA tv or turner sports. Someone please tell me I make sense or at least agree that it'd be cool. I'd love to read what y'all think.

[scatman]

Honestly I would hate to see 2K get an exclusive deal. Not that they don't deserve it because they do. However, they've done so well that they proved they don't need to be exclusive to dominate their market.

Only thing I'd love for 2k to have is an official tv license (turner sports or NBA tv). I like that 2K has a "tv style" presentation, but it makes sense (at least to me) that since they can't have the espn license EA barely uses properly if at all; to secure the NBA tv or turner sports license complete with all of there presentation offerings.

2K is already the G.O.A.T., imagine the same presentation offerings we had in 2K5 with ESPN done up with current NBA tv or turner sports. Someone please tell me I make sense or at least agree that it'd be cool. I'd love to read what y'all think.

Half-time shows with Matt Winer, Ernie, C-Webb & 3-D. Pre/Post games too. To keep Damon Bruce in the mix, I'd use him in the way madden once had a radio show in there franchise mode. Bruce is a radio guy, it be interesting to see him do that since some of us don't listen to his show on the west coast.

My only question is; is any of this possible? A lot of what I'm asking may be a bit much in terms of delivering the kind of quality we would expect from 2k so I wonder if any of this is possible. if it is, I'd love to see it within the next 2 years.

[Day_26]

EA needs to work On their cartoonish graphics.... Madden 12 looks so fuciing ugly...

[BEARYChi]

NHL & FiFa are my favorite series from EA Sports....and soon to be Grand Slam Tennis 2.

[Sundown]

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I think I made a blog post that came from both camps philosophies

Check this

EA
Quote: So we needed to try something different. Something innovative. Something to bring back fans who'd left, and appeal to basketball fans who don't play video games.

That is where the emphasis on control and a dynamic, unpredictable gameplay experience came from.

Focus on fun and control, to draw in the people who play drop in at the Y and dream about competing in the NBA, but don't play basketball games.

See, EA's strategy makes no sense to me. Why would you appeal to non video-gamers by focusing on gimicky video game mechanics? If they don't play video games in the first place, then you're not going to draw them in with buzzwords like "control", "dynamic", and "unpredictable gameplay experience". You're not even going to get them to pick the controller up.

2K appeals to basketball fans who don't play basketball games by giving them *basketball* that looks and feels authentic, by amping presentation, and by tapping into nostalgia and history, all of which add up to an incredible video *and* basketball game.

[illwill10]

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If it wasnt for me not really liking Soccer and not understanding the rules, than I would buy Fifa yearly. Ill watch a game once in a while. For the last 3 years, Ive been renting it. It is a greatly made game. The Commentary fits the "Football" commentary. Like what 2K and The Show does, Fifa has guys who actually seem to have chemistry and dont sound like they are reading from the script.

[BigDaneAyMane]

I am 28 years old and been playing sports games since the days of Double Dribble and Mike Tyson's Punchout on NES. More importantly, I grew up absolutely loving the Madden series. Other than 97-98 where Gameday was really great and when the original NFL 2K came out, I grew up aboslutely loviing getting the newest version of Madden and NCAA every year.

For the first time in ten years, I did not purchase Madden the day it came out. What 2k has done with the NBA series is so phenomenal, it has me questioning whether it's humanly possible to make a football game at it's best as good as a basketball game at it's best. I love my Redskins and the NFL much more than the NBA, but I really believe that basketball just makes for a better video game.

The individuality and personality of each player in 2k is captured effortlessly, something the NFL lacks, so My Player feels more personal than football career modes. The action is constant, so you're not going through the boredom in between plays. Team play modes just flat-out work better because everyone is involved in 5 on 5 and are encouraged more to work as a team, unlike football where you just kinda run your route, throw, or run the ball.

Now of course EA has let Madden suffer in quality because they aren't being pushed and I would love to see how great a football game could be with a team constantly pushing the limits the way the 2k team does. But I really just think basketball makes for a better video game experience when done right.

[illwill10]

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See, EA's strategy makes no sense to me. Why would you appeal to non video-gamers by focusing on gimicky video game mechanics? If they don't play video games in the first place, then you're not going to draw them in with buzzwords like "control", "dynamic", and "unpredictable gameplay experience". You're not even going to get them to pick the controller up.

2K appeals to basketball fans who don't play basketball games by giving them *basketball* that looks and feels authentic, by amping presentation, and by tapping into nostalgia and history, all of which add up to an incredible video *and* basketball game.

Yeah, The Best way to attract Casual users is to have a game that Hardcore players love. If a Casual guy has a friend who is a hardcore gamer, he will ask his friend about the game because he will know about the game. If he says the game is trash, than that guy wouldnt get it. vice versa

[CujoMatty]

All I know is the people that work on NBA2k are very special people. I constantly read on this site about people (I have even done this) defending games like Madden with the short development cycle argument but these guys knock it out of the park

I've been playing NHL 12 the last couple days and reading the various reviews or impressions the same points came up. Gameplay is phenomenal but feels more like a polished NHL 11. Honestly in my opinion NHL 12 plays the best most realistic hockey game EVER. Bar none. I do however see myself getting bored of it quickly. Why? Because I can't go another year with the same commentary, same EXACT cut scenes, same menu, eeesh everything. Until EA figures this out 2k is champ!!!

In my opinion all this stems from what I think separates NBA2k, and Sony San Diego from EA Sports: Don't ever be satisfied. Always know you can do better,and above all listen to the customer.

[convince]

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No disrespect to the official signature trailer but the moment that open my eyes to NBA2k was thanks to the trailers made by eDotd and DaCzar themselves. I never watched two trailers so many times before. Still today in my eyes the best fan made trailers I've seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfW0u3IgCCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MArZ1W-KHSE

[kolanji]

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great read
i think that the reference to a so called "Casual Gamer" needs to be removed when talking about our hobby as gamers.i personally dont think that u can be a casual gamer for the same reason u can be a casual sports fan, ur either a gamer or not or a sports fan or not.in all my life i have never heard a writer or movie director say that they are writing/making a story so that the casual consumers can get in on it.if ur making some form of entertainment u gotta know who ur audience are, hence the audience of an nba simulation would/ should be the target audience such as basketball gamers right?maybe by casual basketball gamer they are really saying a gamer that is just not that good at it and need more assistance and help with making stuff easier (like difficulty,control scheme)but again this doesnt make em casual, they r just gamers that are not very good at games.


now u can be a hardcore gamer or just a gamer i agree with that totally but adding casual (Occurring at irregular or infrequent intervals; occasional)
before gamer(1. someone who plays video games as a hobby.)
not cool....is there even a realistic number of ppl to target to sell a product?

i was playing video games and basketball video games from way back in the 80's when we were called a geek or nerd or for me a 'Game Head' for playing games and my favorite basketball video games like double dribble, nba live, and of course which lead up to nba 2k on dreamcast and i haven't look back ever since getting a copy of nba 2k ever since then till now.i have earned the reputation to be called a gamer or and nba video gamer if so be the case but to hear this sub section as to casual gaming is somewhat offensive because now it is cool to be a gamer ppl that just wanna dangle with the cool crowd like celebs and tv personalities want in on gaming so they create a Casual Gamer group for justification of not know much about it .i say ur either one of us or not because u cant causally be one of us


so in closing what i am saying is a gamer by my definition is a person with a hobby (An activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.) of playing video game cannot be casual

so to me any promotions to lure casual gamers to buy a game is a wasted venture...i say get all the gamers to buy ur game so when the posers(casual gamers) wanna be cool n see the gamers have nba 2k12 they r gonna buy one as a trophy to try and be in the in cool crowd