Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

[The Trooper 458]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

it was good at tye end the flaws just stood out to much to me. i mean as far as bball games and being sim, the gameplay had things seriouly lacking. im a realist. i didnt think just cuz it was the latest 2k it was the best bball game ever. reread my post and tell me those flaws couldnt have been corrected.

yall need to put the kool aid down. if something is rated a ten off hype then lowered to a 9.7 that means it was overrated.

yall pay sixty+ for the game. 2k gives you what they feel is worth 60+ i feel they didnt follow through with 2k11. stuff that was promised wasnt delivered.

you didnt disput it being the best bball game ever but i bet you want to see improvements. how can it be the best ever when certain easily attained fundamental bball is absent.

No. It means that people were rating the game before they had played it.

This is one of the reasons I don't visit gaming websites anymore because people would "review! a game based off a teaser trailer the developers release.

"Omg! Pre-ordering this now, it looks incredible!" etc

Then the game comes out and they complain that the game is cack/has poor graphics/terrible AI etc.

Yeah, because footage in these trailers is not tweaked to make it look better than it is

[Btank314]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

I suppose this is the point where our clash of opinion arises. You cite NBA 2k11 as the best bball game ever, and the reality is that's going to be true, both because it is the product of a number of incremental improvements as well as showing some quite notable polish in terms of presentation etc..., and is on the most powerful console.

However, does this warrant it getting a 10, citing it as near perfect? I'm not just a sports gamer, I play games across heaps of genres, and so I will appraise NBA 2k11 on the same merits I appraise every other game. A game should get a 9 or a 10 for being great, not simply because its the best of its brood.

To illustrate, consider a 2D Fighter like Street Fighter. Comparing it to NBA 2k11 is largely frivolous given how different the games are, but here's one thing, that as a game, Street Fighter has over NBA 2k11 and by a wide margin: Street Fighter is playable at a highly competitive level. NBA 2k11 doesn't even come close in the competitive sphere, and this is due to a large number of core gameplay problems from AI issues and gameplay exploits, which really hampered the gameplay experience for me and detracts from my enjoyment of the game.

And this happens every year, sad to say. I think its why I'm kinda happy there's a new release every year. By the time a year's through, I want nothing more to do with the game, because upon seeing all its flaws and the intricacies of the game, it just simply doesn't retain the fun that it had when I first put the disc in. And this happens every year, without fail; even the best basketball game ever couldn't overcome that issue. You're going to say a game deserves a 10 when it won't last past a year? Starcraft and Counterstrike are two games which people are still playing today, despite being released 10~ years ago. Those games deserve 10s.

This is why I think its overrated. As we've clearly seen, even suggesting the idea is heretical to a number of you, but don't treat me as if I'm running off my mouth without thinking.

Well Said...totally agree with you

[The Bad Man]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

it was overrated and overhyped but still a great video game. if i were to rate 2k11 now id give it 7/10.
i was so hyped about 2k11 when they introduced it with the greatest player of all time, michael jordan. i played the demo for hours and loved every bit of the 2010 lakers-celtics finals 5 minute basketball action. but when i finally got the game, it wasnt the same feeling anymore and i dont know why. i played and test all game modes available in 2 weeks then i got bored so quick i didnt play 2k11 for 6-7 straight months...

[Cynical]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

No. It means that people were rating the game before they had played it.

This is one of the reasons I don't visit gaming websites anymore because people would "review! a game based off a teaser trailer the developers release.

"Omg! Pre-ordering this now, it looks incredible!" etc

Then the game comes out and they complain that the game is cack/has poor graphics/terrible AI etc.

Yeah, because footage in these trailers is not tweaked to make it look better than it is

sorry, but nowhere in that post did i state i hadnt played the game yet. the paragraph before and after clearly states flaws i would only know with gameplay. try again.

Has nothing to do with kool aid.
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You may be a realist, but you just come off as a contrarion...
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Your right, I do want to see improvements, because some are *definitely needed.....and yes, I do think NBA 2k11 is the best bball game ever...flaws and all. The game I thought was the best ever BEFORE that also needed improvements....
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So again, by your logic, every game that needs improvement is overated? because thats every game ever released. You can take that position if you wish, but youll be a unhappy gamer for a long time.

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i dont think you get it. if 2k11 was the best game ever other than gameplay would it be the best bball game ever. from your logic it would be maybe because gameplay isnt 98% of what you care in the game.

in game flaws, to those who play bball, were painfully obvious to those who know bball, and want sim, you must not. those gameplay features should of been there from the start of a sim game, they werent. and when i first played the game those flaws were hidden behind jordan mode, happy to have the game, graphics etc=me/reviewers overrating the game.

if 2k11had perfect gameplay but it was things within the creation of the game that they couldnt figure out like arms bending wrong, occational melting through bodies, ball not totally attached to hand jerseys hovering or even bad fouls/lack off is understandable. that would be attributed to that area and i wouldnt judge the game off that and it would improve year to year i think.*but thas not the case.

*gives Cynical the other pimphand*
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I gave you a thumbs up just so I could turn around and give you a thumbs down for this foolishness.

read the first sentence of my post. lol as if i would trust you to have an open mind and use reasoning rather than just attack w/ poor jokes in a sheepish manner.

Absolutely not....
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This game destroyed its competitor NBA Elite.

bing. one of the main reasons why the game was overrated. its competitor? what competitor?

[Zastrin]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

Absolutely not....

This game destroyed its competitor NBA Elite.

[eko718]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

In light of all the news coming out of 2k regarding 2k12, particularly in gameplay and game modes, is it fair to say NBA 2k11 was overrated? I mean, the game was pulling 9s and 10s everywhere, but surely if 2k12 is an improvement in so many different ways, that rating can't hold.

Admittedly, I do think that a lot of this is due to the way that the games are reviewed, in what is essentially after a day or two of playing, where the more prevalent gameplay/balance issues aren't as obvious, and I think this is always gonna be the case for video game reviews. So do you think, looking back at it now, that 2k11 deserved all the accolades it received?

Yes. The improvements in 2K12 in no way diminish the excellence of NBA 2K11. That's like calling Dr J overrated in light of Michael Jordan coming to the league.

[fatleg3]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

Yea it might have been over hyped but at the time it was called the best game ever made, not the best game that will ever be made. To me it was better then any basketball game that was made, but we all seen were there was room to improve.

With that said does anyone think they hold somethings back to put in the game for the following year so they can have something to market the following year game?

[The Trooper 458]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

sorry, but nowhere in that post did i state i hadnt played the game yet. the paragraph before and after clearly states flaws i would only know with gameplay. try again.

Did I say you had?

I'm giving a reason as to why people give games 10/10 before they've even been released and then drop ratings after they have played it.

"oh but this sin't as good as the trailers looked"

The comment wasn't aimed at you directly, I was responding to what had said.

[erickonasis]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

no...best franchise mode in a sports game ever

[GodzSoulja]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

2k has neva been overrated, im still playing 2k11 until i receive my 2k12 nuff said.they make great sports game no worries from me mate.

[fuuma]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

When compared to any sports game, it brought the most true and realistic experience yet and was ahead of anything we have in all aspects in the moment of release. Future sports games should look at it as the benchmark. So yes it deserves a high score. 2k12 will advance from that point. you cant knack Halo 2 because Halo 3 fixed up any glitches and cleaned up the graphics and gameplay years later. As long as developers dont get lazy and know that we will only pour over superior products, there will be highly deserved 8-9's games for the moments in time.

[Cynical]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

Did I say you had?

I'm giving a reason as to why people give games 10/10 before they've even been released and then drop ratings after they have played it.

"oh but this sin't as good as the trailers looked"

The comment wasn't aimed at you directly, I was responding to what had said.

sorry, i didnt catch on to you taking my post completly out of context.(no sarcasm). carry on.

[Pezell04x]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

In light of all the news coming out of 2k regarding 2k12, particularly in gameplay and game modes, is it fair to say NBA 2k11 was overrated? I mean, the game was pulling 9s and 10s everywhere, but surely if 2k12 is an improvement in so many different ways, that rating can't hold.

Admittedly, I do think that a lot of this is due to the way that the games are reviewed, in what is essentially after a day or two of playing, where the more prevalent gameplay/balance issues aren't as obvious, and I think this is always gonna be the case for video game reviews. So do you think, looking back at it now, that 2k11 deserved all the accolades it received?

No because up to this point (and until 2K12 is released) it's the best basketball game on the market, thus deserving of it's high praise.

[ffaacc03]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

Games are mostly reviewed by what they bring, at the moment of their release, "as a whole" ... you can argue that 2k11 was or not the best bball videogame of all time gameplay wise ... or presentation wise ... or graphics wise ... or modes wise ... or with lackness of bugs/glitches/exploits/flaws wise ...

But rating games cannot be subject to hype (ones subjective beliefs without any foundation), nor can they be subject to one single aspect (gameplay, flaws), not only against replayability (UC2 only lasted 1 month for me but is the best videogame I have ever played up to now) and certainly not literally against perfection.

So, after considering what the game brought "in all aspects" and how was all this done within the (pre 2k11 arrival) "infamously limitating" one year cycle, 2k11 still stands as the GOAT bball video game and worthy of its OS review rating.

[Pared]

Re: Was NBA 2k11 overrated?

2k11 is timeless.

There is a simple answer to this simple question - NO.