NBA 2k12 Ratings Reasonable Explanation

[thugnificant]

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I have been thinking about kobe having 78 midrange jumper while amare has 88 and i have come up with only one explanation:

Hot spots.

It can be Everywhere is a hot spot for kobe which gives some additional points to the actual ability (just a guess +15?)

While it has been lots of cold spots for amare which makes the opposite. ?

i wonder if this can be a reasonable answer? ( if so it still doesnt explain how josh smith has better passing than monta ellis )

bro more to worry about than kobe and truthly he isnt a consistant mid shooter like he used to be especially last season. why do people ignore this? what about lamars consistancy and yet his rating from mid isnt very high along with his layup rating. kobe isnt the lakers

[thugnificant]

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I'm just curious about knowing who is the crazy guy who decided to give Zabian Dowdell a 90 in mid range, Pooh Jeter a 95, and Brandon Roy a 71???

roy deserved a decrease since last season but insider never did it until now. did you see him play? veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy inconsistant

[Notorious Arab]

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This is what Lakers fans really believe.

Alright fine sir, tell us ur opinion...Im listening

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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The ratings, like Rashidi's are based on stats. Dirk has a 99 because his mid range stats are historic. Players that shot great from mid are in the 90s. Players that shot very well are in the 80s. Players that shot well are in the 70s etc etc. As much as I bash the Insider I'm ok with it. I take issue with some of the other ratings but the shooting is ok.

[Vast]

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there are more ratings than just mid-range. whats Kobe's off the dribble rating? which is what he mostly shoots. I'm sure he has a 99 rating in that department.

[JWiLL02]

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The ratings, like Rashidi's are based on stats. Dirk has a 99 because his mid range stats are historic. Players that shot great from mid are in the 90s. Players that shot very well are in the 80s. Players that shot well are in the 70s etc etc. As much as I bash the Insider I'm ok with it. I take issue with some of the other ratings but the shooting is ok.

The only issue I have is a guy like Pooh Jeter being a 95 from mid range. I don't care if he shot 95% on his mid range jumper last year, because if he did he was 19/20. The sample size just isn't large enough to justify that type of rating.

With these ratings I can just keep running plays to get him good mid range looks and drop 30 with him. This is the type of thing that results in end of bench types being abused in head to head play, where it shouldn't even be possible.

[Krodis]

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Alright fine sir, tell us ur opinion...Im listening

Off the top of my head, Dirk.

Besides that, Kobe's jumper has always been a little overrated. I mean, I think he's better than a 78, and his percentages are largely due to poor shot selection, but I don't think he's a Top 2 all time mid-range player. I mean, he's not a particularly great three point shooter, and his FT%, while very good, hardly imply "all-time great shooter".

[Notorious Arab]

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Off the top of my head, Dirk.

Besides that, Kobe's jumper has always been a little overrated. I mean, I think he's better than a 78, and his percentages are largely due to poor shot selection, but I don't think he's a Top 2 all time mid-range player. I mean, he's not a particularly great three point shooter, and his FT%, while very good, hardly imply "all-time great shooter".

Im fine with Kobe being behind Dirk at top 3 all time. He's an average 3pt shooter but when its crunch time, that 3 ball is going in one way or another. And I agree about the all time shooter, he's more of an all time scorer.

[godsgift2dagame]

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It doesnt matter either way u cut it, Kobe has a 78 mid range. If I left Drew Gooden wide open compared to Kobe wide open, Drew would hit more times out of 100 than Bryant. Now I ask u, what sense does that make? ...Exactly no sense b/c Kobe Bean Bryant has the 2nd deadliest mid range game of all time behind MJ. And thats a fact you all must accept.

The fact that you pass that off as a "fact" makes you an idiot. By "fact", did you mean he takes the most difficult mid range shots possible? If so, I agree -- and so do the advanced metrics -- which proves to me he's either a) on the lower end of the BBIQ spectrum (why else pass up easier shots?) or b) unable to get better quality shots off (in that case he needs to shoot less).

Go to hoop-data.com and view the statistics. How funny is it that the "2nd greatest midrange shooter of all time" wasn't even a top-25 mid range shooter last season? But the kicker? "LeBrick" (as known by jealous Laker fangir- eh fanboys) was top 20.

[kingg d]

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roy deserved a decrease since last season but insider never did it until now. did you see him play? veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy inconsistant

Yes, I agree with that, but he was playing trough pain.

Anyways I still think 71 in mid range for him is an insult , specially when Ricky Rubio has 75 (he can't even hit an open jumper) and nobodies like Jeter and Dowdell are rated 90+

[Vast]

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Yes, I agree with that, but he was playing trough pain.

Anyways I still think 71 in mid range for him is an insult , specially when Ricky Rubio has 75 (he can't even hit an open jumper) and nobodies like Jeter and Dowdell are rated 90+

You guys have to take into account the other ratings. What are their consistency or clutch or off the dribble or shooting in traffic attributes?? etc.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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The only issue I have is a guy like Pooh Jeter being a 95 from mid range. I don't care if he shot 95% on his mid range jumper last year, because if he did he was 19/20. The sample size just isn't large enough to justify that type of rating.

With these ratings I can just keep running plays to get him good mid range looks and drop 30 with him. This is the type of thing that results in end of bench types being abused in head to head play, where it shouldn't even be possible.

Wasnt Jeter getting real backup minns with Sac? I looked it up and he played 62 games at 14 minns a game. Thats a big sample size for a guard. I would agree if he was a big man who went 4 for 8.

[djsider2]

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You guys have to take into account the other ratings. What are their consistency or clutch or off the dribble or shooting in traffic attributes?? etc.

those other attributes only matter if he's your creator and scorer. we shouldn't be saying it's ok to give ppl like iverson, kobe, and roy low mid ratings just because they shoot off the dribble or in traffic all time. if this is the case, we should be helping/rotating more off of these all-stars then the role players. I could probably set my defensive settings to do just that and take my sweet time getting back to these all-stars since i'd rather them shoot a mid range jumper then driving by my defender.

if everyone was standing still wide open, does it really look like rubio is going to shoot better than roy? is gooden going to shoot better than kobe?

[DisapoinnT]

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I these ratings make absolutely no sense all over the board. You cannot always look at the stats. I shoot and miss 100 shots with a man in face and I make 40 str8 wide open. I wouldn't be surprised if someone scored 40 pts online with one of those nobodys with 90 midrange.

[DurtySoufReppin]

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I hate how people are trying to defend this

The ratings are terrible

and from what I saw the shoot off dribble has been removed

So the ratings will be even more terrible.

and to you people saying "wait to play the game"

I bet they will still be terrible when you play.

Serge Ibaka 77 and Randolph a 69 lol

Does this look like a 69 mid range to you?


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There's no way I'm going to be able to hit jumpers in people's face like that with a 69 mid range, and if I can then everybody in the whole game will be able to, and most of them better.